Hell is theologically impossible if God is omnipotent.

[Panacea]

My point is "if God is omnipotent" depends on what is meant by "omnipotent".

:24::24:

Where's that "dictionary" you like to reference whenever you're too much of a coward to clarify what you mean???

See, definitions matter

 

[doombug]

:24::24:

Where's that "dictionary" you like to reference whenever you're too much of a coward to clarify what you mean???

See, definitions matter

hahaha! what is funny is how you fail to recognize the "omnipotence paradox". This is something that has been debated outside of religion. Maybe you should look it up. Besides where did I ever claim definitions didn't matter?

I asked you a question now run away like a scared little girl.

 

[Panacea]

hahaha! what is funny is how you fail to recognize the "omnipotence paradox". This is something that has been debated outside of religion. Maybe you should look it up. Besides where did I ever claim definitions didn't matter?

I asked you a question now run away like a scared little girl.

I haven't failed to recognize anything, merely pointing out your hypocrisy.

 

[doombug]

I haven't failed to recognize anything, merely pointing out your hypocrisy.

What hypocrisy?

 

[Greatest I am]

You can try and define it to fit your premise but my point still stands.Besides you have no idea if what you are proposing is even possible. You are merely wishing the situation into existence. Nice play on words though.



Regards
db

Any time you would like to answer any question I pose, I will be pleased to discuss your answer.
Till then, I will generally ignore you the way I have been doing.
I do not know or care what your agenda here is but it seems that it is to show non-believers how evasive believers can be.

I thank you for doing my work for me.

Regards
DL

 

[Panacea]

My point is "if God is omnipotent" depends on what is meant by "omnipotent".

This one, paired with your banging on about disliking arguing semantics in other threads. Some terms are more than just face value. Indeed you're right to bring this valid point up, but your prejudice shows again. You only do the right thing when it comes to discussing bible quotes.

 

[doombug]

Any time you would like to answer any question I pose, I will be pleased to discuss your answer.
Till then, I will generally ignore you the way I have been doing.
I do not know or care what your agenda here is but it seems that it is to show non-believers how evasive believers can be.

I thank you for doing my work for me.

Regards
DL

I hope you are more successful at ignoring me than Panacea... :24:

 

[Panacea]

I do not know or care what your agenda here is but it seems that it is to show non-believers how evasive believers can be.

He's failing, because I know for certain not all theists are incapable of productive discussions. Trolls come in a wide assortment of convictions.

 

[Greatest I am]

My point is "if God is omnipotent" depends on what is meant by "omnipotent". GIA suggests God can do anything. I don't think this is the case. I am wondering what GIA means by "omnipotent".

Why do you think I put the definitions in the O P?
To show what I mean.

Regards
DL

 

[Panacea]

I hope you are more successful at ignoring me than Panacea... :24:

I only reply to your posts when I'm really bored nothing going on at work today. Your troll act is entertaining me through my work day. Thank you bug!

 

[doombug]

This one, paired with your banging on about disliking arguing semantics in other threads. Some terms are more than just face value. Indeed you're right to bring this valid point up, but your prejudice shows again. You only do the right thing when it comes to discussing bible quotes.

And you have claimed to "ignore" me when you seem to be an avid reader of my posts...that's hypocrisy isn't it?

Defining the meaning of words can help to stop semantic type arguments. As in this case I have shown where GIA uses what some think omnipotent means in a "slight of hand" effort to propose his faulty premise. Nothing wrong with that.

 

[Greatest I am]

That's your earth shattering point?? What you stake your reputation on? Lol! You've got access to a dictionary about what omnipotent means. It means all powerful, unlimited power, able to do anything, control everything including our reality, snap his fingers and our universe would cease to exist if he so desired. Significantly, that is the traditional religious view of power applied to God.

So how have you come to your view that God is omnipotent or not omnipotent, which is it? Please don't blow off this question.

As far as GIA's premise, that depends on God. If God is omnipotent and has the nature Christians imagine him to have, and he wants to punish people after they die, he would have the ability to do that. But from a philosophical view the idea has very little merit. The idea comes from ancient superstitious man who views these sorts of things in terms of a human life. I don't see the point of Hell. If you are trying to make better people, you'll give them the chance to learn from their mistakes. The view that people live for an average of 70 years, then spend eternity in the hereafter, then their time on earth is just a flash. Based on this, would you as God decide their fate for eternity, or let them work on it some more? This entity is supposed to be more wise than we can imagine. Yet in the Bible he/she/it is portrayed like a brash, foolish, self centered, dictating, temper tantrum throwing baby. It does not add up with all powerful and all wise.

+ 1

Well put indeed.

Regards
DL

 

[doombug]

Why do you think I put the definitions in the O P?
To show what I mean.

Regards
DL

Wow, that has to be record time for failing to ignore...

 

[Panacea]

And you have claimed to "ignore" me when you seem to be an avid reader of my posts...that's hypocrisy isn't it?

Defining the meaning of words can help to stop semantic type arguments. As in this case I have shown where GIA uses what some think omnipotent means in a "slight of hand" effort to propose his faulty premise. Nothing wrong with that.

Bugdict translates the above post as: Yep, I am a hypocrite, let's back peddle a bit...umm...I know what you are but what am I??? and....um...it's well within my rights to do precisely what I say is wrong to do!

get more bugese translations at bugdict.com


The bug sets standards for debate, does not follow them. Squash the bug.

 

[doombug]

I only reply to your posts when I'm really bored nothing going on at work today. Your troll act is entertaining me through my work day. Thank you bug!

Nah, you only reply when you think you have a winner....I expect you to run away anytime now.

 

[Panacea]

Nah, you only reply when you think you have a winner....I expect you to run away anytime now.

I always have a winner against you, bug, unless you're doing your mentally ill routine...you know, your fecal matter eating, skin picking barking at people on the street version of debate. I suspect you'll feel backed into a corner soon enough and resume it.

 

[doombug]

Bugdict translates the above post as: Yep, I am a hypocrite, let's back peddle a bit...umm...I know what you are but what am I??? and....um...it's well within my rights to do precisely what I say is wrong to do!

get more bugese translations at bugdict.com


The bug sets standards for debate, does not follow them. Squash the bug.

Wow Pancakes, I knew you didn't join in because you really can't debate anything but it is worse than I thought....that post is stinkaroo! phew!

 

[Greatest I am]

He's failing, because I know for certain not all theists are incapable of productive discussions. Trolls come in a wide assortment of convictions.

Some can start a discussion for sure but most I speak with eventually go and hide behind one of God's miracle that cannot be proven, or resort, when God is shown as immoral, to their------- God can do anything moral or not, because he owns us.

Regards
DL

 

[doombug]

I always have a winner against you, bug, unless you're doing your mentally ill routine...you know, your fecal matter eating, skin picking barking at people on the street version of debate. I suspect you'll feel backed into a corner soon enough and resume it.

And all you can do is take pot shots. Where is that substance? hahaha!

 

[doombug]

Some can start a discussion for sure but most I speak with eventually go and hide behind one of God's miracle that cannot be proven, or resort, when God is shown as immoral, to their------- God can do anything moral or not, because he owns us.

Regards
DL

Come now GIA maybe it upsets you to not be the "Greatest".