Free Trade Agreements- Good or Bad?

[Peter Parka]

I'm sorry, come back to me on this one when you have actually learned what selfishness means.

 

[Carthage]

I'm sorry, come back to me on this one when you have actually learned what selfishness means.

Ayn Rand's The Fountainhead contained in two paragraphs:




[FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif] “A man thinks and works alone. A man cannot rob, exploit or rule—alone. Robbery, exploitation and ruling presuppose victims. They imply dependence. They are the province of the second-hander.
“Rulers of men are not egotists. They create nothing. They exist entirely through the persons of others. Their goal is in their subjects, in the activity of enslaving. They are as dependent as the beggar, the social worker and the bandit. The form of dependence does not matter.
“But men were taught to regard second-handers—tyrants, emperors, dictators—as exponents of egotism. By this fraud they were made to destroy the ego, themselves and others. The purpose of the fraud was to destroy the creators. Or to harness them. Which is a synonym."[/FONT]

 

[FreeWorkVest]

Selfishness - n. Being concerned only with one's own interests. Living for yourself only.

A dictator lives vicariously through others. He does not live for himself, and he cannot live by himself. He is not concerned only with himself, he is concerned with how others view him. That is being second-hand. He has no self - therefore, he is not selfish.



You do realize that it's possible to prove anything with statistics?
Plus, have you ever thought about attributing this - assuming it is real - to their work ethic?




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Sweden, Norway, Finland. They have no labor issues, no poverty, they live longer, they live happier lives, the have the lowest infant mortality rate, some of the largest companies in the world are from there. They have thriving industry and economies. Where are they problems? What about Canada, they have problems, but their economy is doing find. UK, France, Spain, Germany (although they have some social unrest issues) all have higher standards of living than we do.

 

[Minor Axis]

selfishness is a virtue

Maybe you were thinking of:

Short version Gordon Gekko in Wall Street: "Greed is good!"

Long version: The point is ladies and gentlemen that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right. Greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of it's forms - greed for life, for money, knowledge - has marked the upward surge of mankind and greed - you mark my words - will not only save Teldar Paper but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA. Thank you.

 

[Carthage]

Long version: The point is ladies and gentlemen that greed, for lack of a better word, is good. Greed is right. Greed works. Greed clarifies, cuts through and captures the essence of the evolutionary spirit. Greed, in all of it's forms - greed for life, for money, knowledge - has marked the upward surge of mankind and greed - you mark my words - will not only save Teldar Paper but that other malfunctioning corporation called the USA. Thank you.

Thats powerful. I have got to see that movie. If somebody makes a speech like that, it must be my kind of movie.

 

[Pheonix23B]

If Bush hadn't stolen the election in 2000, Gore would probably have free college by now

 

[FreeWorkVest]

LOL, so true. At least Gore knew what war was like, unlike the Tin soldier in Chief.So we could have avoided all the mess. Plus energy policy. Soo much better

 

[Pheonix23B]

I wonder if we would even CARE what oil prices were if Gore was president

 

[Carthage]

I wonder if we would even CARE what oil prices were if Gore was president

No. We'd all be a little distracted by having died from terrorist attacks.

 

[FreeWorkVest]

No. We'd all be a little distracted by having died from terrorist attacks.

LOL. Or maybe giant monsters from the ocean. LOL

 

[Carthage]

LOL. Or maybe giant monsters from the ocean. LOL

Or both:

 

[FreeWorkVest]

Or both:

Actually, I imagine Gore would have real the intelligence reports and listened when people told him "Al Queda is planning something big using airplanes"

 

[Carthage]

Actually, I imagine Gore would have real the intelligence reports and listened when people told him "Al Queda is planning something big using airplanes"

Oh, come on, that was supposed to be funny!

You seriously think Gore would have those reports and respond to them?

 

[FreeWorkVest]

Your right, he would have solved the issues that would have cause the terrorists to do it.

 

[Carthage]

Your right, he would have solved the issues that would have cause the terrorists to do it.

You mean poverty of material goods and good philosophy in the middle east?
No, I don't think that anyone except a philosopher in the middle east could do that, and even then, you'd need an army of them.

 

[FreeWorkVest]

Just one man from the West whom they could trust is really all you need. Like Gore. And Walter Cronkite

 

[Pheonix23B]

Bush was and is the worst thing that ever happened to this country.

 

[Minor Axis]

No. We'd all be a little distracted by having died from terrorist attacks.

What a ridiculous statement. I see the Republican brain washing got your brain squeaky clean.

 

[Pheonix23B]

lmao!! that was funny M.A

 

[LiberalVichy]

I think the initial point of this argument is somewhat dulled by the fact that so-called Free Trade agreements are not in fact free trade.