Fox Hunting

[Peter Parka]

I don't know how much if at all this goes on in other countries but what are your feelings on this. It's an old tradition over here where posh people get together on their horses with loads of dogs in tow and then ride about all over the country, private land included to kill foxes which are usually ripped apart barbarically by the dogs. Foxes can be a pest but this has surely got to be one of the most ineffective ways of culling them. A couple of years or so ago this got banned despite it being a tradition going back hundreds of years.
The fight has been going on for years with organised groups, the fox sabouters trying to disrupt the hunt.
Personally I think its barbaric but I'm opposed to the bill which banned this. Why? It wasn't written up carefully enough. It dosen't mention fox hunting, just hunting with dogs. Basically this is what it means. I own a greyhound, if she takes off after a squirrel or even a rat, an official pest, and kills it, I could be fined or even have my dog put down for this!

 

[SRC]

well .. you know this happens everyday in the wild . wolves and other predators kill foxes in the very same manner.

I guess I'm on the fence on this .. of course I don't like anything dying .. but hunteres go out and shoot deer everyday .. and not ever shot is a clean kill. Sometimes hunters have to track a wounded deer all day, before finally finding it , and finishing it off .. and sometimes they never find it.

If you stop one, you need to stop them all I think .. and unfortunately .. it's a hard problem to solve.

 

[All Else Failed]

Cruel.

 

[Maulds]

It wasn't written up carefully enough. It dosen't mention fox hunting, just hunting with dogs. Basically this is what it means. I own a greyhound, if she takes off after a squirrel or even a rat, an official pest, and kills it, I could be fined or even have my dog put down for this!

You're right Pete thats pretty damn stupid.

 

[DaveM]

more foten than not the fox is dead before the hounds even get there, and if not, its the lead animal that kills, it isn't a free for all like people think, happens all quickly, a lot quicker that say a half arsed shooter hitting it in the lung, or a trap leaving it there for days, the people are pricks imo, but I wouldn't put it past "animal rights" groups to kill the foxes like that anyway and say it goes on in the hunt

 

[debbie t]

i live on a hunting estate in shropshire..the shooting etc fine ,but fox hunting is disgusting and a completely useless way of culling foxes.
i hate boxing day when i usually drive to my parents as i have to get through loads of upper class tossers on the road taking pleasure from animal cruelty and moaning because im trying to drive on a road and its spoils their "sport" and frightens the horses(ofcourse i pay road tax they dont)
the hunt is no longer allowed to just gallop through my garden at least destroying my plants :mad

 

[juggler]

I own a greyhound, if she takes off after a squirrel or even a rat, an official pest, and kills it, I could be fined or even have my dog put down for this!

As far as I know Pete, they have to prove that you deliberately set your dog to chase and catch the animal in question. I looked into this myself, cus we have two lurchers which do exactly the same thing! Squirrels, pigeon, ducks etc are all fair game as far as the dogs are concerned! We try to keep them from doing it, but it's natural behaviour for them.

 

[Keight]

I dont know if i think its wrong really i mean each to their own, if thats something people enjoy then so be it, however how bloody boring would it be, your not even hunting the fox yourself you get a dog to do it and when its found you shoot it..... sounds a lil blah to me :shrug:

 

[Pudding Time]

The fox "hunting" those posh pommy bastards do is not hunting at all. Americans are getting bad with it to, with their high tech gadgets. I'm not against hunting. I like boar hunting with dogs and knives.

I guess it's all how one perceives the animal being hunted. Though I feel nothing for deer here in america. I just don't like the use of all the high tech stuff. It's makes it too easy. Hunters should only be allowed to use a gun or knife, and a whistle or scent, and can wear camo. That's it.

 

[Keight]

The fox "hunting" those posh pommy bastards do is not hunting at all. Americans are getting bad with it to, with their high tech gadgets. I'm not against hunting. I like boar hunting with dogs and knives.

I guess it's all how one perceives the animal being hunted. Though I feel nothing for deer here in america. I just don't like the use of all the high tech stuff. It's makes it too easy. Hunters should only be allowed to use a gun or knife, and a whistle or scent, and can wear camo. That's it.

Seee This is Hunting, as you are actually "hunting" not expecting some other animal to do it for you and taking the gain.

 

[Peter Parka]

As far as I know Pete, they have to prove that you deliberately set your dog to chase and catch the animal in question. I looked into this myself, cus we have two lurchers which do exactly the same thing! Squirrels, pigeon, ducks etc are all fair game as far as the dogs are concerned! We try to keep them from doing it, but it's natural behaviour for them.

Thanks for this. Its interesting how little most people know about the law banning it though. Fox hunting isn't even mentioned in the bill, it's all about hunting with dogs. It definately wasn't written up very well!

 

[debbie t]

Thanks for this. Its interesting how little most people know about the law banning it though. Fox hunting isn't even mentioned in the bill, it's all about hunting with dogs. It definately wasn't written up very well!

true ,it was written to allow upper class twats to tear about the countryside and do what they want and to stop the ordinary man from pusuing any hunting at all

 

[SRC]

Thanks for this. Its interesting how little most people know about the law banning it though. Fox hunting isn't even mentioned in the bill, it's all about hunting with dogs. It definately wasn't written up very well!

they ahave that in almost all the states here .. you can hunt with a gun or bow, but it's against the law to use dogs to round up deer anymore .. racoons, rabbits, and ducks are ok though .. so kinda weird.

 

[Pudding Time]

I have no idea how people use a dog to hunt a raccoon. But with rabbits they are used as trackers. If the rabbits takes off, the dog can track it all the way to it's burrow. Nothing wrong with that. And when hunting ducks, dogs are used as retrievers. Meaning once the duck is shot down, the dog will find it and bring it back to his owner. Again that's fine.

So I guess this might be why they didn't ban the use of dogs when hunting rabbit or duck.

I don't know what use a dog would be to hunt dear. All you need to do in step foot into a forest and you will see them straight away. Plus you can easily get within 100 yards of a dear without spooking it. A shot from that distance is childsplay.

 

[gLing]

I don't see the point in hunting anything unless you intend to eat it.

 

[Pudding Time]

I don't see the point in hunting anything unless you intend to eat it.

There's also pest control. Rabbits, at least in Australia, are pests. Their burrow's are notorious for breaking the leg's of cattle.

Also kangaroos and boars are hunted in Australia to keep the population down (culling). I think the same goes for dear in the US.

 

[debbie t]

There's also pest control. Rabbits, at least in Australia, are pests. Their burrow's are notorious for breaking the leg's of cattle.

Also kangaroos and boars are hunted in Australia to keep the population down (culling). I think the same goes for dear in the US.

since we dont eat foxes and using 20 horses and 100 dogs to hunt foxes isnt a very sensible way of culling shows how sick and barbaric it is

 

[Pudding Time]

since we dont eat foxes and using 20 horses and 100 dogs to hunt foxes isnt a very sensible way of culling shows how sick and barbaric it is

Yeah, I fail to understand British fox hunting.

Foxes aren't hard to hunt alone with a rifle, if you know how to hunt.

 

[SRC]

I have no idea how people use a dog to hunt a raccoon.

You usually have 1-5 dogs trained to sniff out, find, and tree a racoon. Then the hunter trails the dogs by listening to them bark .. located them, the tree, and the racoon .. and kills the raccoon. The racoon is killed for sport .. no one eats racoon.

Treeing Walker Coon Hounds

Red Bone Coon Hounds



Black and Tan Coon Hounds

I don't know what use a dog would be to hunt dear. All you need to do in step foot into a forest and you will see them straight away. Plus you can easily get within 100 yards of a dear without spooking it. A shot from that distance is childsplay.

Beagles are used to track deer .. the trained dogs herd the deer towards the hunter .. and the hunter picks a running target and trys to hit it.

Hope this helps.

 

[Pudding Time]

Sport hunting is stupid IMO.

And dear is so easy to hunt. No need for dogs.