Foaling Season 2011

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Annie's interactions with Rock are so cute!

Rock keeping watch
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"Hey! What are you doing?"
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Annie nuzzles him and tries to chew on him and Rock just lays there and purrs.
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Cuties :)
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Hi Zirc,
I just found this thread, and of course, being an animal lover, had to read every single word of it, and now I have to comment! :p

I have a lot of experience with small animals, as I have volunteered and worked with a vet, but never had the luck to work with a vet specializing on large animals.
I love all the pictures, especially the ones ones of Annie.. she is a beauty.. and also cried for the loss of Natalia.. It's so sad... :(

I don't know too much about horses, and have always wondered why is it so difficult to keep them alive after injuries, and what is the reason why they don't survive some surgeries like other animals?.

I've helped with C-sections on cats, dogs, rabbits, guinea pigs... but I don't think I ever heard of a mare having one... is it even possible?.

It's been a long time since I had the pleasure to talk.. ermm read... with someone having all that knowledge, and I envy you right now ♥...
I wish I was younger and free of my disabilities, so I could go back to the days of spending my time in that OR.. or even be able to have my private make believe zoo in my house again..*sigh*
 
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Willow said:
Hi Zirc,
I just found this thread, and of course, being an animal lover, had to read every single word of it, and now I have to comment! :p

I have a lot of experience with small animals, as I have volunteered and worked with a vet, but never had the luck to work with a vet specializing on large animals.
I love all the pictures, especially the ones ones of Annie.. she is a beauty.. and also cried for the loss of Natalia.. It's so sad... :(

I don't know too much about horses, and have always wondered why is it so difficult to keep them alive after injuries, and what is the reason why they don't survive some surgeries like other animals?.

I've helped with C-sections on cats, dogs, rabbits, guinea pigs... but I don't think I ever heard of a mare having one... is it even possible?.

It's been a long time since I had the pleasure to talk.. ermm read... with someone having all that knowledge, and I envy you right now ♥...
I wish I was younger and free of my disabilities, so I could go back to the days of spending my time in that OR.. or even be able to have my private make believe zoo in my house again..*sigh*
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Well, I'm not a vet so to be honest, I can't really answer the C-section question. When the vets are here we are usually busy and I don't think to ask questions. I've never known a mare to have a C-section, though I think it's possible. I think they're done only as a last resort in a desperate attempt to save the mare. My guess as to the reason they don't work in horses is size. If I don't forget, the next time I see a vet I will ask. :)
 
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zirconaz said:
Well, I'm not a vet so to be honest, I can't really answer the C-section question. When the vets are here we are usually busy and I don't think to ask questions. I've never known a mare to have a C-section, though I think it's possible. I think they're done only as a last resort in a desperate attempt to save the mare. My guess as to the reason they don't work in horses is size. If I don't forget, the next time I see a vet I will ask. :)
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I'm not a vet either, but studied and had some training as a vet tech -small animals-. I thought it could be because of the size also, and that it could be something related to their anatomy..
I'm just one of those people that like to investigate the things I don't know.. ;)

zirconaz said:
If I could figure out how to get a video from my phone to YouTube I'd post it here. :surrender
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I have a very slow dial up connection and have never been able to watch a video on my computer.. :mad
 
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It can be done but it's rare. Horses don't do well coming out of anasthesia so it is not something that should be taken lightly. Another factor is horses are not usually in a hospital for their delievery. If emergency surgery was needed there would most likely not be enough time. And you don't want to move a mare in full labor. Because horses are prey animals their labor and delivery is very short. It doesn't leave a lot of room for error.
 
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http://www.showjumpinginternational.com/the-vault/show-jumping-tips-and-advice/breeding-show-jumpers/birthing-problems/caesarian-sections-in-horses.html?print=1&tmpl=component

Not a Field Procedure

Sometimes a caesarian is required to save the life of the foal and the mare, but it is difficult to get a live foal. To save the foal the cesarean must be performed quickly as foal survival after 30 minutes of active labor rapidly declines and becomes poor at the 40 minute mark. Successful surgery requires a facility with a team ready to quickly anesthetize the mare, perform the surgery, and provide natal care to the newborn foal. This means a delivery of a live foal by cesarean section is uncommon when the mare with dystocia is not very near surgical facilities. The expediency of cesarean section in a mare with a dead foal is not as critical but should proceed as rapidly as is possible and be accomplished within 24 hours of the onset of labor. The surgical procedure of cesarean section on a mare with a live or dead foal is the same. There are many surgical approaches to cesarean section and a discussion of these procedures is beyond the scope of this article.
 
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Alien Allen said:
geeze that bugger is tiny
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JanieDough said:
did yall find a nurse mare? is she going to be stunted? she is tiny right?
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:unsure: Tiny? The colt who was born a few weeks ago was tiny. This is a big girl. Her size was the cause of her mother's downfall. Perhaps it doesn't show in the pictures but she's big for a newborn. I don't think she will be stunted. We have not been able to find a nurse mare for her, at least not one that has lost her foal and has milk. We currently have one of our barren mares on hormone therapy to get her to start producing milk. It will probably take a few weeks before she has enough to feed Annie so until then we are bottle feeding her.

Oh, and thanks, AA and Thorny for posting that info. It's stuff I know but didn't know how to say. :)
 
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:unsure: Tiny? The colt who was born a few weeks ago was tiny. This is a big girl. Her size was the cause of her mother's downfall. Perhaps it doesn't show in the pictures but she's big for a newborn. I don't think she will be stunted. We have not been able to find a nurse mare for her, at least not one that has lost her foal and has milk. We currently have one of our barren mares on hormone therapy to get her to start producing milk. It will probably take a few weeks before she has enough to feed Annie so until then we are bottle feeding her.

Oh, and thanks, AA and Thorny for posting that info. It's stuff I know but didn't know how to say. :)
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Duh! Context clues!!

Hey - how longs do horses nurse?
 
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