Fixing my lap top

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Alien Allen

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I have an HP laptop that the screen will go dark. If you get real close and look you can see an image so I know the computer is ok

I am thinking it is the inverter or lcd cable

However after taking the cover off I noticed something and wonder if this could have any impact. If you look at the 2nd pic the arrow on the right shows where a foil is all ripped up. Does this act as a ground and could this be part of the problem?

Also where the left arrow in the 2nd pic is pointing does that just pull apart to the left to unplug??

Thanks in advance for any help. I have never had the nerve to open up a laptop before.

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RedRyder

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I think I can help you Alien. Take a 3rd picture of you holding the computer on your lap. I'm quite sure it may have something to do with what you have in your pockets and/or your body is full of electricity from walking across carpet. It's probably your magnetic personality. :D

Seriously.... did you rip that foil when you opened it up? You just might want to take it to an expert. If I'm not mistaking.... someone on that computer it probably says NO NOT OPEN!!!! :24:
 

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I checked at Google.

How To Repair A Dim Laptop Display??

buono
Jan 11th 2006 edited

I have had this a couple of times in the last few months. A friend leaves a laptop with me and says "It's quite old, the display seems to have gone".

The display is actually visible but is extremely faint.

I am sure I saw a Make How-To recently on this subject but have spent 20 minutes looking for it so I am opening myself to your mercy!

Can anyone help?
aplumb
Jan 11th 2006

What's the make and model of laptop?

Have you opened it up yet? When you do, start taking pictures and posting them to something like Flickr for folks to peruse.

super_J_dynamite
Jan 11th 2006 edited

I didn't see that howto, but it's probably the CCFL tube or the inverter, since those are the two major components that make a laptop screen illuminate. If it's the CCFL tube you can probably just swap in another one of the same length. If it's the inverter, that's not as easily repaired, but you may not be totally borked. The original equipment inverter will probably be expensive, but you may be able to swap in an inverter designed to run the CCFL tubes that are popular with the case modders. I did this when I converted a laptop screen into cabinet lighting.

pftb
Jan 12th 2006

how about just poping it open and adding some board mount LEDs to the same spot where the backlight tube is?, just wire them to the battery with a small switch or something

buono
Jan 12th 2006

Thanks so far.

I have turned it on, you can see a faint apparition of what should be on screen, so it looks like a laptop in power saving mode or something.

It is a Dell Inspiron 8000, looks about 2/3 years old (the type that had optional colour coded panels).

I will post some shots to flickr as soon as I can.

Was I wrong about the How-To?

vonSlatt
Jan 12th 2006

I think the <a href="http://www.hackaday.com/entry/1234000523065961/">howto you saw</a> was over on hackaday.com, but it's for monitors not laptops.

Chances are one of two things is wrong:
<ul>
<li>The inverter is bad</li>
<li>The cold-cathode flourescent tube is broken</li>
</ul>
If it's the former, you can get a replacement ('prolly < $100) and install it. If it's the later you have a tougher task. The CCF's are not replacable but I've done it. You'll have to search around for a source for a bulb that's close in size, I scavenged one from an older laptop. IIRC I trimed of some of the LCD panel shielding and attached the new bulb with duck tape. Oh, BTW - there's mercury in them thar bulbs, take appropriate precautions.

Here's a <a href="http://home.comcast.net/~stonent/screenfix.htm">bulb replacement howto</a> courtesey of google. ;-)

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super_J_dynamite
Jan 12th 2006 edited

Actually, I would think it's the other way around -- the CCFL is the easy part to replace, and the inverter is the hard part. A laptop inverter usually has all kind of other stuff integrated on the board and is proprietary to that model of laptop. The CCFL tube you can get from a case mod shop for a few bucks, and it's been my experience that after after some surgery the CCFL tube can just be plucked off the side of the LCD/diffuser/CCFL assembly. Pop in another one of the same length and you're good to go.

I also found <a href="http://www.inventgeek.com/Projects/shorts/lcdfix.aspx">this howto</a> on repairing LCD backlights.

buono
Jan 13th 2006

Nice.

I found another page that went through replacing the tube. So, how do I tell if it is one or the other, or is it a matter of picking one and trying it?

Thanks for your help so far.

buono
Jan 13th 2006

Well, ordered an inverter for $25 so I'll see if that fixes it.

Many thanks for your help, everyone.
 

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Ahhhh... Kelvin, that's so cool...... but can you help Alien too? Apparently, he's a bit dim too. :D

...... Alien, don't get your shorts in a bind..... you know I lubs ya..... ;)
 

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He's actually very smart like that. No surprise really. :nod:






Sure hope that makes up for my sarcasm........
 

Alien Allen

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Alien somehow guessed it right
There was no guessing involved.

I also chat at another site and a very nice lady there has told me to bite the bullet and replace both.

That was a couple months ago. This is kind of a spare that my youngest uses. It was her sisters who did not take care of it.

Anyway I have not posted much at this other site and did not want to be an ass by popping in asking for help. So I was gonna see if anybody else knew if that foil was part of a ground.

This laptop already was taken apart by a tech guy my wife works with to replace the hinges. Now that I got it apart I could have done that.

It is not that big a deal to take apart. And I took pics to make sure I do not miss anything going back together.

Now you can all continue with your useless input. :D Except for Kelvin. Thanks :thumbup
 

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Useless input..... Bah! I believe in the entertainment value at least, whether it helps solve anything or not.

*sigh*
 

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If this laptop was not in rough shape and now 3 years old and a spare I would not be bothering to open it up.

Now if you want to see a challenge try taking the back cover off one of these things. I have to use duct tape to keep the battery in place due to the shitty design of the slider that holds it in place. You have to tear down the entire laptop to replace the back. Ass hat design by a shitty company. Not going to ever buy anything again from HP.
 
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