Euthanasia: Death Becomes Him

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Zorak

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No God or Government controls my life. My life is mine to take away if I so wish. And if I was in a situation where I was unable to take my own life - I'd like a helping hand/push.

I think it's fucking rich that the Government goes around telling people (assisted) suicide is wrong... They sound like the 14th century papacy.
 
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If it got to the point where someone I thought a lot of was going through a lot of pain and their quality of life was being severly affected then I wouldn't be happy to just watch them suffer. And if they then consented to euthanasia then I would be happy to help them with that.

Now I am by no means a religious man, and I don't need to hear religious nutcases quoting the bible or Liberal idiots saying what is right. If it came down to me having to watch someone I love suffer then I would help them (If they so chose) to die.
 

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In a perfect world, I'd be all for it but unfortunately it opens the door for greedy relatives ect to bully old people into it so they can hurry up and have their inheritance ect ect so no, I'm against it being legalised.
 

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the thing is to prevent abuse there needs to be strict controls, which means governments need to oversee and legislate, whilst i agree there should be quality of life and no suffering there are way to many questions that just cannot answered

who says how much pain i can endure?

who speaks for the comatosed?

how do you attest to the validity of a living will written some years ago?

has any anyone ever heard of someone who, according to the docs, has 6 months to live, go on to live for years?

in way to many cases (Terry Schiavo) the situation becomes a moral versus legal issue, church versus state - we should never allow our churches to dominate our legislation
 

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- we should never allow our churches to dominate our legislation

Even without considering the opinions of the church, we're still opening a huge can of worms here when it comes to legalizing putting people to death. Pete brought up a good point, we can't only worry about the people who may wish to use the service for themselves but also those who wish to take advantage of it.
 

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Even without considering the opinions of the church, we're still opening a huge can of worms here when it comes to legalizing putting people to death. Pete brought up a good point, we can't only worry about the people who may wish to use the service for themselves but also those who wish to take advantage of it.
in Canada the case of Robert Latimer is a noted situation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Latimer
 

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I would not legalize it because that gets the govt involved and they never get anything right. One only needs to look at the Schiavo case to get an idea how things would be dealt with.

But I would not criminalize it

What somebody else does to their own body is none of my business.

Live in the Burbs where Dr. Death (Kevorkian) did most of his deeds so it has been talked about at length here
 

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My mother had cancer and it got into her brain. She had a strong heart, but would never be anything more than a vegetable for who knows how long, she was out of her head and I had to get into bed with her to stop her from pulling her tubes out.

The doctor came around and told me it was time for her anti-seizure shot. If she were not give it, she likely would have a grand mal and not survive..........

I told him I didn't want her to have it. So, am I a murderess? I also have had my pets put to sleep when they were in pain with no hope and have a living will.

I am firm in my beliefs and think in cases like the above, doctors/hospitals should act like the above doctor, lay out what the prognosis was, if hopeless, provide a look the other way option.
 

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My mother had repercussions after a knee replacement. Congestive Heart Failure and COPD arose out of the blue. One med to work on the one problem exacerbated the other.

We could have let her live in pain and suffer not being able to breathe for a day or two hoping for an unrealistic change in status. Or we could make her comfortable and do as she desired which was to not prolong the inevitable. The morphine dose was upped and all the other meds stopped. She was in a coma in minutes and dead within 3 hours.

That was an act of compassion on my families part as far as I am concerned. She would have never recovered to be herself even if a miracle happened and she would not have wanted to live in a nursing home on a ventilator
 
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My mother had cancer and it got into her brain. She had a strong heart, but would never be anything more than a vegetable for who knows how long, she was out of her head and I had to get into bed with her to stop her from pulling her tubes out.

The doctor came around and told me it was time for her anti-seizure shot. If she were not give it, she likely would have a grand mal and not survive..........

I told him I didn't want her to have it. So, am I a murderess? I also have had my pets put to sleep when they were in pain with no hope and have a living will.

I am firm in my beliefs and think in cases like the above, doctors/hospitals should act like the above doctor, lay out what the prognosis was, if hopeless, provide a look the other way option.
I think you saw your mother's pain and suffering and you did her the favor she had been asking for.
 

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I think we should have the right to choose how we die. We do it for our FurBabies. Why not ourselves?

If I am terminal why should my family have to go through financial devastation to keep me alive? Just so insurance companies continue to profit? pppfffffttttt......

My 92yr old Grandmother had a DNR over her bed at the Hospital. PS and I happened to walk in the moment she'd died and they were running for the crash cart. Hello???? DNR???? Stop! She was able to go in peace. Not have the insurance companies continue to suck money off of her. "God" put us there at that exact time for a reason.:nod: To set that woman Free.

p.s. By the time we made it back to her home that afternoon there was a double rainbow over her house. I think she was happy too.
 
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My mother had cancer and it got into her brain. She had a strong heart, but would never be anything more than a vegetable for who knows how long, she was out of her head and I had to get into bed with her to stop her from pulling her tubes out.

The doctor came around and told me it was time for her anti-seizure shot. If she were not give it, she likely would have a grand mal and not survive..........

I told him I didn't want her to have it. So, am I a murderess? I also have had my pets put to sleep when they were in pain with no hope and have a living will.

I am firm in my beliefs and think in cases like the above, doctors/hospitals should act like the above doctor, lay out what the prognosis was, if hopeless, provide a look the other way option.


yeah and that is also a quality of life thing where maybe medicine should stop at some point.

but is stopping medicine and actually over dosing some one with pain meds two different things?
 

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My brother was diagnosed as being a permanent vegetative state for the rest of his life after he overdosed on cocaine in 2008. My father and I discussed that if it came to it, we'd take him off the ventilation. However, we were determining this if we knew he wasn't in there anymore. I'm sure there are many other people out there who feel the same way..but we knew James better than anyone. We gave him a fighting chance and didn't give up on him then, and he continues to astound doctors every day with the things he's able to do and the progress he has made.

I don't think it's fair to immediately give up as soon as someone is diagnosed terminal or is in that much pain. It doesn't always end badly, and I think everyone deserves a chance. I also don't think it's our place to play God, but in certain circumstances, I believe that what has to be done has to be done. It's hard to be able to say your stance unless you've been in a situation that provided you with insight.

It's all situational.
 

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My brother was diagnosed as being a permanent vegetative state for the rest of his life after he overdosed on cocaine in 2008.

I had no idea a cocaine overdose could do that to a person...

and sorry about your bro, but glad to hear he's making progress
 

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I had no idea a cocaine overdose could do that to a person...

and sorry about your bro, but glad to hear he's making progress

It's the chemicals that get mixed into the cocaine that can do it. He had a seizure and his heart stopped three times in about a five minute span. They Had to jam one of those huge needles into his chest to get it started again. The loss of blood to his brain during that time is what caused the brain damage.
 

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i mean i believe in God and all...but i am for it...why keep someone alive who will never go back to the way you remember them....i would say put me outta my misery!
 

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I would not legalize it because that gets the govt involved and they never get anything right. One only needs to look at the Schiavo case to get an idea how things would be dealt with.

But I would not criminalize it

What somebody else does to their own body is none of my business.

Live in the Burbs where Dr. Death (Kevorkian) did most of his deeds so it has been talked about at length here

I agree completely. I'm not against it... hell that's basically what hospice is anyway.
 
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