Egypt revolts

[Minor Axis]

A Muslim theocracy would make no sense in Egypt.

I hope your right.

 

[Maldoror]

Yeah, me too. Yet the more I follow it, the worst I expect. People make stupid choices when they're starving and are terrified for their safety.

 

[Maldoror]

Organisers plan "march of millions" on Tuesday in a bid to oust President Mubarak while the army vows not to use force.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/01/20111311965695371.html

It should start in a few hours. I'm dreadfully excited.

 

[Kyle B]

I think what's also being missed here is the power of the military in Egypt. Many countries sort of have two governments, the civilian, and the military. In Egypt, like many African countries, if the military doesn't like what's going on, they'll step in and change things. Last I heard yesterday on NPR, Mumbarak was losing support of the military.

 

[Maldoror]

Yup, yesterday the military declared that it will not attack the protesters and that it supports their rightful demands.
But it is more complicated to take action when the president was an army general and when major military figures are key members of the government.

But the army is with the people, now it's only a matter of time.

 

[Maldoror]

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[Minor Axis]

At first I was fearful of an Islamic revolution in Egypt. So far it's looking good, but just because Mubarak stepped down and the military has taken over does not mean the battle for democracy has been won. It's not over yet, but why not be hopeful?

What is interesting is Israel's view (according to CNN) is that 'stability' is better than democracy. Democracy can be very messy and is fraught with danger, but it's still better than an autocracy.

 

[porterjack]

Israel might want to winds is neck in and just start to talk peace

Now is the time to talk peace

 

[Kyle B]

What is interesting is Israel's view (according to CNN) is that 'stability' is better than democracy. Democracy can be very messy and is fraught with danger, but it's still better than an autocracy.

A lot of people would disagree with you on that. If your life is worse off in a democratic society than it would be in an autocracy, the idealism of democracy doesn't matter much.

Take Russia in the early 1990's.

 

[FreightTrain]

I started an in-depth thread on this very topic a week and a half ago!
http://www.offtopicz.net/showthread.php?t=71904

 

[Minor Axis]

A lot of people would disagree with you on that. If your life is worse off in a democratic society than it would be in an autocracy, the idealism of democracy doesn't matter much.

Take Russia in the early 1990's.

For every person who would want stability under a caretaker dictatorship, there is another who would want a say in the matter.

 

[All Else Failed]

I
So, what are your opinions

The revolts made the middle east incredibly unstable and have created a power vacuum to which no one knows who will take over.

Not to mention the overly positive image being cast upon the revolts. They have been markedly anti-Semitic and violent, especially towards western media, which have been beaten and even sexually assaulted.

 

[Maldoror]

lol srsly