Egypt revolts

[Maldoror]

I'm kinda surprised there hasn't been a thread about the Egyptian or Tunisian revolutions here.
So, what are your opinions, if any, of the revolution itself, the army's role, America's role, and the possible aftermaths?

Random relevant article: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/01/201113033817859936.html

 

[Peter Parka]

There is a thread about it in the latest news section.

 

[Minor Axis]

I'm ignorant on this. Is this an 'everyday people' revolt or is it a move to tun Egypt into a conservative Muslim theocracy?

 

[skyblue]

I'm ignorant on this. Is this an 'everyday people' revolt or is it a move to tun Egypt into a conservative Muslim theocracy?

its massive,people are getting killed

 

[Peter Parka]

I'm ignorant on this. Is this an 'everyday people' revolt or is it a move to tun Egypt into a conservative Muslim theocracy?

Do you live in a cave???:eek

 

[Accountable]

I'm ignorant on this. Is this an 'everyday people' revolt or is it a move to tun Egypt into a conservative Muslim theocracy?

It's a popular revolt to overthrow the American puppet dictator.



...... American puppet dictator.


Damn! That cave's deep, ain't it?

 

[Maldoror]

I'm ignorant on this. Is this an 'everyday people' revolt or is it a move to tun Egypt into a conservative Muslim theocracy?

It's a people's revolt. Many of those are Islamists of course, but the majority are regular poor to middle-class citizens adhering most closely to the Nasserite tradition, hence Arabism rather than islamism.
But of course there's always the danger that the Muslim brotherhood would take advantage of this situation and seize the power albeit there have been no signs of that so far.

There is a thread about it in the latest news section.

Classic noobish mistake. My thread is better anyway.

 

[Zorak]

It's a people's revolt. Many of those are Islamists of course, but the majority are regular poor to middle-class citizens adhering most closely to the Nasserite tradition, hence Arabism rather than islamism.

It's not just them though, even the affluent have joined in the protests. It's got nothing to do with class or religion, this is a purely ethical and political struggle. The people want democracy.

 

[cam elle toe]

It's a people's revolt. Many of those are Islamists of course, but the majority are regular poor to middle-class citizens adhering most closely to the Nasserite tradition, hence Arabism rather than islamism.
But of course there's always the danger that the Muslim brotherhood would take advantage of this situation and seize the power albeit there have been no signs of that so far.



Classic noobish mistake. My thread is better anyway.

I resemble that remark....:mad

 

[Maldoror]

That's true, I just don't imagine affluent people in Egypt that aren't part of the ruling party's clique to be that numerous in comparison to the middle-class.

 

[Maldoror]

I resemble that remark....:mad

Hmm do you mean resent?

 

[cam elle toe]

Hmm do you mean resent?

no......

 

[Maldoror]

Then a thousand yeas to you.

 

[Kyle B]

It seems similar to what has happened in Iran and Tunisia.

About time too.

 

[Accountable]

But will the people be able to resist the vultures (including the American one) that want to come in & take over, or will they be able to stand strong and create their own brand of democracy?

 

[Kyle B]

But will the people be able to resist the vultures (including the American one) that want to come in & take over, or will they be able to stand strong and create their own brand of democracy?

The thing is, there have been lots of People Power Revolutions in the world. Ukraine, Georgia, and the Philippines are just to name a few.

What seems to happen is, if the leader in power is deposed, than some other popular guy becomes leader, only to become despotic too.

They skip the stage where you change the government structure and get rid of the powerful elite.

 

[Maldoror]

Watched some news about the Egyptian revolts incidentally after reading some Schopenhauer, now I'm terribly pessimistic.

 

[Accountable]

The thing is, there have been lots of People Power Revolutions in the world. Ukraine, Georgia, and the Philippines are just to name a few.

What seems to happen is, if the leader in power is deposed, than some other popular guy becomes leader, only to become despotic too.

They skip the stage where you change the government structure and get rid of the powerful elite.

Same thing could easily have happened to us if George Washington had given in to the seduction of power.

 

[Minor Axis]

It's a people's revolt. Many of those are Islamists of course, but the majority are regular poor to middle-class citizens adhering most closely to the Nasserite tradition, hence Arabism rather than islamism.
But of course there's always the danger that the Muslim brotherhood would take advantage of this situation and seize the power albeit there have been no signs of that so far.

I've been avoiding the news for the last couple of days. I take breaks after I've been saturated. Stand by for another Muslim theocracy.

 

[Maldoror]

A Muslim theocracy would make no sense in Egypt. Supposing the Muslim brotherhood did have the majority of Egyptian support, which is unlikely, it would be a very slight majority. And the Muslim brotherhood agreed on a transitory government that would implement democracy and fair elections. So even if the Muslim brotherhood won the elections this time, there's no fear as long as it's a democracy.

But for that to be guaranteed, the US has to play an important role in this phase, the Egyptian people are currently poor, hungry and angry. They know what they don't want but they don't know what they want.

The US has helped Mubarak abuse over 70 million Egyptians for the past 30 years, it should help them get rid of him now without actually meddling in Egyptian affairs. Mubarak is their puppet and he would abide to their decisions.