Drug users and tax payers. Is it time to make the pushers pay for the party?

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Drug users and tax payers. Is it time to make the pusherspay for the party?

The drug trade is controlled by Governments and their laws. Theyare controlling drug pushers. Our masters profit while we suffer financiallyand morally. Drug users and tax payers pay heavily for rich elitist parties.

Tax payers have been underwriting the taxes that the drugtrade has not been paying for a long time. That is thousands of dollars to thetax payer every year. The Governments are thus punishing the taxpayer twice. Wepay them to war against us.

For a war we are losing and that was never justified and iscounter to Governmental reports. Governments are not taking their own advice.

Drug users and tax payers have been paying the largest pricein this war while the rich get richer.

Tax payers and drug users.

Had enough of this yet?

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http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/articles/royal-commission-on-the-nonmedical-use-of-drugs

books.google.ca/books?id=L_5gu-eUfE8C&am...cannabis&f=false
 
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1. How is this different from the other legalize drugs thread?

2. Are you the original author pasting this in multiple places, or can you give us the original? The link you give goes nowhere, unless you enjoy watching a cartoon character screw a sheep.
 

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1. How is this different from the other legalize drugs thread?

2. Are you the original author pasting this in multiple places, or can you give us the original? The link you give goes nowhere, unless you enjoy watching a cartoon character screw a sheep.


How is this different from the other legalize drugs thread?


Perhaps a different set of logical fallacies?


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Drug users and tax payers. Is it time to make the pusherspay for the party?

The drug trade is controlled by Governments and their laws. Theyare controlling drug pushers. Our masters profit while we suffer financiallyand morally. Drug users and tax payers pay heavily for rich elitist parties.

Tax payers have been underwriting the taxes that the drugtrade has not been paying for a long time. That is thousands of dollars to thetax payer every year. The Governments are thus punishing the taxpayer twice. Wepay them to war against us.

For a war we are losing and that was never justified and iscounter to Governmental reports. Governments are not taking their own advice.

Drug users and tax payers have been paying the largest pricein this war while the rich get richer.

Tax payers and drug users.

Had enough of this yet?

http://imgur.com/a/90sTN



Regards
DL

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/articles/royal-commission-on-the-nonmedical-use-of-drugs

books.google.ca/books?id=L_5gu-eUfE8C&am...cannabis&f=false



The drug trade is controlled by Governments and their laws. Theyare controlling drug pushers
Not successfully, they aren't.

Drug users and tax payers pay heavily for rich elitist parties.
I'd like to read more about these parties for the rich.


Tax payers have been underwriting the taxes that the drugtrade has not been paying for a long time. That is thousands of dollars to thetax payer every year. . .
Is your thread an argument to legalize drug abuse so the drugs can be taxed?


The Governments are thus punishing the taxpayer twice
How do you figure that?
Tax evasion is not an issue of a government action. That's done by those that should be paying taxes.
Where the government is 'sticking it' to the taxpayer is in cost effectiveness.
And it's not a punishment, it's incompetence and self interest.


Wepay them to war against us.
Sophistry. Multiple examples.
 
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2. Are you the original author pasting this in multiple places, or can you give us the original? The link you give goes nowhere, unless you enjoy watching a cartoon character screw a sheep.


And referring to a 39 year old study, Canadian at that, is hardly objective. And I don't see any comments relating to taxation, taxpayer abuse or parties.

This quote stood out:
The final report (1973) contained extensive scientific documentation and recommended that polices should be adopted to discourage nonmedical drug use and that sanctions should be tailored to fit the crime.

Sounds a lot like decriminalization.
 

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Drug users and tax payers. Is it time to make the pusherspay for the party?

The drug trade is controlled by Governments and their laws. Theyare controlling drug pushers. Our masters profit while we suffer financiallyand morally. Drug users and tax payers pay heavily for rich elitist parties.

Tax payers have been underwriting the taxes that the drugtrade has not been paying for a long time. That is thousands of dollars to thetax payer every year. The Governments are thus punishing the taxpayer twice. Wepay them to war against us.

For a war we are losing and that was never justified and iscounter to Governmental reports. Governments are not taking their own advice.

Drug users and tax payers have been paying the largest pricein this war while the rich get richer.

Tax payers and drug users.

Had enough of this yet?

http://imgur.com/a/90sTN



Regards
DL

http://www.thecanadianencyclopedia.com/articles/royal-commission-on-the-nonmedical-use-of-drugs

books.google.ca/books?id=L_5gu-eUfE8C&am...cannabis&f=false


Jesus Christ clean the formatting out of that rant

Here is what I see when i go to respond

Drop that pipe and relax
 

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1. How is this different from the other legalize drugs thread?

2. Are you the original author pasting this in multiple places, or can you give us the original? The link you give goes nowhere, unless you enjoy watching a cartoon character screw a sheep.

Which shows what governments are doing to us.

I could have rolled this into the other thread but it is a good bottom line and may actually make us think of the money we could save by having the black market turn white.

It is thousands of dollars in each of our tax paying pockets.

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And referring to a 39 year old study, Canadian at that, is hardly objective. And I don't see any comments relating to taxation, taxpayer abuse or parties.

This quote stood out:


Sounds a lot like decriminalization.

Yes.

The follow up to the cannabis report spoke to all drugs.
Getting rid of one set of pushers for some other will not help parents.
I see it as an all or nothing move if we are to do a good job of legalization.

Decriminalization says that the tax payer will continue to foot the bill for the black market share of taxes.
Legalization will have the right parties paying their fair share for a change.

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Yes.

The follow up to the cannabis report spoke to all drugs.
Getting rid of one set of pushers for some other will not help parents.
I see it as an all or nothing move if we are to do a good job of legalization.

Decriminalization says that the tax payer will continue to foot the bill for the black market share of taxes.
Legalization will have the right parties paying their fair share for a change.

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DL

You quoted an article that tilted towards decriminalization and then argue not to accept the concept?
Why bother posting an article you don't support?


The follow up to the cannabis report spoke to all drugs.
It did. So?


Getting rid of one set of pushers for some other will not help parents.
That is not a conclusion from the report nor in any conceivable manner derived from that report.
It's your comment and it makes no sense when you post a link that tilts toward decriminalization.

Do you understand what you've been reading? Did you actually read it?

Do you even understand there is no medical argument to that article.....it's all about drug abuse while you argue to legalize it.


I see it as an all or nothing move if we are to do a good job of legalization.
Of course you do....I've always understood your intentions are to legalize drug abuse.
I've never doubted it!!!

But the article you posted presented a different scenario:

Legal recommendations included a gradual withdrawal of the use of the criminal law against nonmedical users of drugs.....

You didn't really read it, did you?


Decriminalization says that the tax payer will continue to foot the bill for the black market share of taxes.
In other words....you expect to partially finance our society by taxing drug abuse?
Decriminalization is an argument to reduce those social negatives that require taxation.
Your argument is for an increase of those negatives for the purpose of increasing revenue collection........a circular argument!!!


Legalization will have the right parties paying their fair share for a change.

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You do not seem to like the idea of the black market paying taxes.
Why?
Do you like paying their share?

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Your present argument is for the creation of a legal drug culture.
In financial terms, that's creating a market to tax.
But it's not problem-solving. It's only a means of increasing revenue generation.
With the expansion of social negatives comes the expansion for financial support in an attempt to correct those social problems.
Rather than reducing social problems, you argue to increase not only the issues themselves.....you also argue the need for increasing taxation.
Your argument is the twisted logic for a culture of drug abuse.

To reduce social strife from and of drug abuse .......is the only mechanism that will reduce needed taxation.


You do not seem to like the idea of the black market paying taxes.
Why?
Do you like paying their share?
Let's take a closer look at that incredibly illogical statement.
How the hell can a black market pay any taxes if legislation legalizes the drug trade?
First, ignoring your confused theory on medicinal distribution for the purpose of recreational abuse......there won't be a 'Black Market' if sales and distribution are legalized.
If, and likely, those that can't get these medical prescription for recreational abuse of drugs.....are going to buy from a 'Black Market' where there is no collection of taxes because it's illegal and few criminals are going to admit to the illegal sales.

Secondly, the user is the one that will be covering all taxes that are included in the legal 'product' from production to distribution to sales tax......that are included in the sale of the drug at the time of the sale.....not the 'Black Market'

You couldn't even get that right.


Sophistry and incredible fallacies are all you've been posting GIA.



And I've noticed you've become quite non-responsive to the questions and challenges put to you.



Did you really read that Canadian article you linked to?
 

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I have read a number of official reports.

I have also noticed that here as well as elsewhere, your hate is quite close to the surface and you seem to want to go personal all the time.

I have no time for such games.


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I have read a number of official reports.

I have also noticed that here as well as elsewhere, your hate is quite close to the surface and you seem to want to go personal all the time.

I have no time for such games.


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DL


I have read a number of official reports.
You've implied that before.


I have also noticed that here as well as elsewhere, your hate is quite close to the surface and you seem to want to go personal all the time.
Probably only your paranoia and guilt kicking in at the same time :D


I have no time for such games.
I have a few free minutes to spare :p
 

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You do not seem to like the idea of the black market paying taxes.
Why?
Do you like paying their share?

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If they were paying taxes..they wouldnt be a black market now would they?
Its a black market because it is illegal.

Whats the plan...pay taxes and we wont bust you for dope sales ????
What are you trying to say?
 

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If they were paying taxes..they wouldnt be a black market now would they?
Its a black market because it is illegal.

Whats the plan...pay taxes and we wont bust you for dope sales ????
What are you trying to say?

It worked for Capone and the repeal of prohibition improved the U S conditions quite a bit.

What I am saying as a bottom line is that I am fed up paying for the black market pushers who do their trade while living on my dime and yours to the tune of about 2,000 a year.

Are you fed up yet?

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It worked for Capone and the repeal of prohibition improved the U S conditions quite a bit.

What I am saying as a bottom line is that I am fed up paying for the black market pushers who do their trade while living on my dime and yours to the tune of about 2,000 a year.

Are you fed up yet?

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You are repeating the same flawed logic.
 

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It worked for Capone and the repeal of prohibition improved the U S conditions quite a bit.

What I am saying as a bottom line is that I am fed up paying for the black market pushers who do their trade while living on my dime and yours to the tune of about 2,000 a year.

Are you fed up yet?

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Then perhaps you should argue for stringent drug controls and argue these people get tax paying jobs rather that argue for support of illegal activities
 
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