Drinking and religion

[Joe the meek]

Some reason thinking about it.

Down here in the south, most religious people frown on drinking, particularly the baptists.

Growing up Russian Orthodox in a rural coal mining town up north, town of 5,000 people had over 30 bars and 30 churches. Heck, for weddings I use to tend bar at the church myself. My wife and I got married at the church and had the reception at the church and that same bar was there that I worked when I was a teenager. Everyone for Christmas at the church use to have "who could make the best boilo"contests. Drinking was almost a way of life, even in the church.

Don't know where I'm going with this other than the fact that I have no doubt that the people I knew growing up and the people I now know down here in the south probably don't love their own God less than anyone else, just funny how drinking can or can not play a role in religion.

The joke "how do you keep a baptist from drinking all your beer on a fishing trip? Invite two of them!" also makes a lot more sense down here now LOL

 

[BornReady]

It's not unusual for religions to impose eating restrictions. Jews can't eat pork. Catholics can't eat meat on Fridays or it was that way when I was a boy anyway. The school cafeteria served fish on Fridays. How the hell is fish not a meat?

 

[Zorak]

Drinking is a massive, massive part of Russian culture. It's why men die in their 50's but woman live to their 80's in Russia. I think that just passes over into their religious practice. Let's be honest, it would be pretty stupid to for a country that squeezes vodka out of every potato to practice teetotalism in their religion.
In the mediterranian, drinking is another big part of religion and culture, but you're not drinking to get drunk, just everyone, kids and adults, have a few glasses of wine with their families.

 

[satinbutterfly]

Actually it is wrong for Christians to drink alcohol (wine) according to the Bible.

Proverbs 20:1
Leviticus 10:9-11
Deuteronomy 32:33
Proverbs 23:19-20
Proverbs 23:21
Proverbs 23:29-30

There's more... but I'll leave you with that for now.

 

[porterjack]

i drink religiously

hope that helps

 

[Dana]

i drink religiously

I just drink... and eat... love me some piggy.... I always thought restriction was silly. And I agree with BornReady. I've always considered fish to be meat. They even cut tuna & swordfish into "steaks"

 

[Joe the meek]

Actually it is wrong for Christians to drink alcohol (wine) according to the Bible.

Proverbs 20:1
Leviticus 10:9-11
Deuteronomy 32:33
Proverbs 23:19-20
Proverbs 23:21
Proverbs 23:29-30

There's more... but I'll leave you with that for now.

There lies part of the problem IMO, interpretation.

Heck, it was funny seeing the county I live in trying to pass the legalization of selling alcohol and different groups of people quoting the Bible for and against alcohol.

I also could never forget the "in depth" discussion with someone on an internet forum on his line of thinking why the Bible tells you that you should be armed with a gun. Don't get me wrong, I have guns because there are bad people in this world NOT because I consider myself a Christian. However, this "religious guy" was convinced that the Bible allows you to arms yourself for protection. Yeah, Jesus packing, right.

 

[Johnfromokc]

 

[Johnfromokc]

 

[alice in chains]

lmao...ill see you in hell, brother!

 

[Joe the meek]

I would like to think that Jesus would at least know proper handgun skills. Take the time to do a pic like that, at least do it right.

 

[doombug]

Jagermeister, deer hunters for Christ.

 

[satinbutterfly]

There lies part of the problem IMO, interpretation.

Heck, it was funny seeing the county I live in trying to pass the legalization of selling alcohol and different groups of people quoting the Bible for and against alcohol.

I also could never forget the "in depth" discussion with someone on an internet forum on his line of thinking why the Bible tells you that you should be armed with a gun. Don't get me wrong, I have guns because there are bad people in this world NOT because I consider myself a Christian. However, this "religious guy" was convinced that the Bible allows you to arms yourself for protection. Yeah, Jesus packing, right.

The problem is not interpretation but the complete inconsistencies in the message throughout the Bible.

 

[Joe the meek]

The problem is not interpretation but the complete inconsistencies in the message throughout the Bible.

Part of that issue (with inconsistencies) is the persons interpretations AND to some extent the familiarity with the work and context the time the Book was written in by the ready.

Another huge factor is the reader's "heart" when they read IMO.

Reading the Bible is kind of like wanting to give up drinking. You have to open your heart up because if you don't, everything will go in one ear and out the other and you'll only find fault.

 

[MrHeinz]

Actually it is wrong for Christians to drink alcohol (wine) according to the Bible.

Proverbs 20:1
Leviticus 10:9-11
Deuteronomy 32:33
Proverbs 23:19-20
Proverbs 23:21
Proverbs 23:29-30

There's more... but I'll leave you with that for now.

Some of those warn against drinking in excess, not just drinking. Others you just took out of context.

 

[satinbutterfly]

Part of that issue (with inconsistencies) is the persons interpretations AND to some extent the familiarity with the work and context the time the Book was written in by the ready.

Another huge factor is the reader's "heart" when they read IMO.

Reading the Bible is kind of like wanting to give up drinking. You have to open your heart up because if you don't, everything will go in one ear and out the other and you'll only find fault.

Actually it's a very good thing to read something with an open mind. However, I think in the case of the Bible it's more of a matter of just complete fabrications and conflicting information, so it would be somewhat difficult for a rational person to ignore them or put it down to simply interpretation.

 

[satinbutterfly]

Some of those warn against drinking in excess, not just drinking. Others you just took out of context.

I'm not taking anything in our out of context. I'm just giving a Christian's explanation of why drinking is considered a sin per the Bible.

 

[Joe the meek]

Actually it's a very good thing to read something with an open mind. However, I think in the case of the Bible it's more of a matter of just complete fabrications and conflicting information, so it would be somewhat difficult for a rational person to ignore them or put it down to simply interpretation.

Perhaps if you take everything you read literally.

People tend to forget that cam corders weren't around back then.

 

[satinbutterfly]

Perhaps if you take everything you read literally.

People tend to forget that cam corders weren't around back then.

Have you read Leviticus? I don't think there's a lot of room for 'interpretation' there.

 

[Joe the meek]

Have you read Leviticus? I don't think there's a lot of room for 'interpretation' there.

One reason why you have to digest the WHOLE Book. Too many people IMO cling onto certain sections and use that as a "rallying cry" for whatever reason. Believe me, the Old Testament gets pretty hard for me to digest at times LOL

Hey, just follow the ten commandants (not a bad set of rules to live your life by even if you don't believe in a God) and hope for the best