Does being under supernatural control exonerate Eve of any sin?

[Greatest I am]

I am not trying to be difficult ...I just want your position..so far it appears to be all over the place IJS

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"With that logic I should also disregard all your information as you claim to be with the "gods""

Get the quote or be seen as lying twice in quick succession.

Do not expect much more with your shit attitude.

Regards
DL

 

[The Man]

Are now claiming you have not reached god like status?
That would put you in the same class as the gods.


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[Greatest I am]

Are now claiming you have not reached god like status?
That would put you in the same class as the gods.


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I have said that apotheosis is like finding Jacobs ladder and starting the climb.
I have also said that what I found I call a Godhead as the word God has been rather corrupted.

I define the word God as rules and laws or ideals of those and those are what is important to man and what I seek.

You have been listening to others more than to me it seems.

You have seen that I will not argue without purpose.

Let's cut to the chase. What do you want from me?


Regards
DL

 

[Stone]

I have said that apotheosis is like finding Jacobs ladder and starting the climb.
I have also said that what I found I call a Godhead as the word God has been rather corrupted.

I define the word God as rules and laws or ideals of those and those are what is important to man and what I seek.

You have been listening to others more than to me it seems.

You have seen that I will not argue without purpose.

Let's cut to the chase. What do you want from me?


Regards
DL

I have said that apotheosis is like finding Jacobs ladder and starting the climb.

Sophistry........all you're doing now is back pedaling and alluding to becoming godlike.

But let's look at how you explain it here under the identity
'Gnostic Christian Bishop' ( waiting for you to use Gnostic Warrior Priest ):
http://forum.grasscity.com/religion-beliefs-spirituality/1278745-adam’s-first-sin-not-reproducing.html/page-2
quote:
(question asked of you)
Apotheosis?

This word is always kinda being debated. "Rising to God" is how I denote it. Now does this mean rising to God as in location or actually becoming God? Is there a difference? Most people think of it as a transformation into a God. Do you think this?
*****************************
(Your response)
I think you read that word well. I see it as finding Jacobs ladder and starting to climb, you used rising.

It also means becoming God but it is better said that one recognizes that they will eventually be completely a part of the Godhead and in that sense, we are truly Gods .

For now, I am a God WIP. Work I progress. I just know where I will end.
end of quote

Incredible. Even here, you claim both the act of rising to the location and also the act of achieving God status. Not 'god-like, God status.

You have been listening to others more than to me it seems.

You're the one responsible for the words you post and you contradict yourself often.

Let's cut to the chase. What do you want from me?

Less sophistry, but I've posted that before.



Also noticed was this toward the end of your spiel:

God the Father, even though shown in scriptures as ............... a son murderer

You invoked the concept of the Trinity in another thread here at OTZ in a religious discussion.
Since you realize the concept is applicable to the Christian God and Jesus is God, you've been committing not only fallacies across the internet, you've done it with knowledgeable intention.
You lie just as you now lie to us about your 'god' status and apotheosis.

Slick, you've posted this shit all over the internet. It's not hard at all to out you on it.

 

[The Man]

Snake dude
It appears as if Stone has provided documentation showing your claims of which you are now becoming uncomfortable with.
Now may be the time to state to the board that you are a mere mortal rather than to continue with your "Godliness" status.
Denial is not a godly trait.



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[Greatest I am]

Garbage. Done here.

 

[The Man]

I created a lighter thread..hop on over.

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[Stone]

Garbage. Done here.

A course in critical thinking might help you.

 

[The Man]

Garbage. Done here.

Define garbage.

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[Stone]

Does being under supernatural control exonerate Eve of any sin?


Eve was unjustly punished because she was under supernatural control in a set of circumstances that God himself set up by putting Satan in Eden.


God put Satan in Eden to insure that Eve ate and gave him the power to deceive Eve. She could not resist God's power directed through Satan and thus Eve had no choice but to eat of the tree of knowledge. She, like the snake, were under supernatural control and thus innocent of any wrong-doing.


Eve fails the criteria of mens rea, Latin for evil intent,a fundamental requirement of secular and biblical law, and thus Eve was innocent of any wrong-doing.


No human judge in his right mind would have judged A & E the way God did as God set the conditions that insured that A & E also died from neglect and the locking away of the tree of life. That was murder.


Does being under supernatural control exonerate Eve of any sin?


Did Eve have a free will while under supernatural control?


Regards

DL

Eve was unjustly punished because she was under supernatural control in a set of circumstances that God himself set up by putting Satan in Eden.

To be under control is to be without freewill. Without freewill, choices could not be made.
Commands would follow through.
And yet, you position Eve as having made a choice. Without freewill as your argument follows.
But all you accomplished was confusing whose commands were to be followed......Gods to Eve, or Satan's .
Since Satan is a God to you, I don't see how you or your logic comes out of your argument smelling like a rose.
It's your God ( Satan ) that's caused the misery.

God put Satan in Eden to insure that Eve ate and gave him the power to deceive Eve.

Is this according to gnostic scripture?
Please cite your reference.
Or was this somehow derived during your own ascension to Godhood ( apotheosis ) ?

She could not resist God's power directed through Satan...

More issues with logic.
You now seem to be claiming that, although God had dominion over Eve's choices and commanded her not to eat of the Tree of Knowledge, his dominion was superseded by the presence of Satan whom you now claim was given power granted by God that canceled God's original directive .
ie.....Satan had dominion over Eve whose freewill ceased to exist.
Then what was the reasoning for 'The Snake' to have to tempt Eve?
If Eve had no freewill, 'The Snake' would not have needed to tempt Eve.

Eve fails the criteria of mens rea, Latin for evil intent

No, it's Latin for 'guilty mind'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mens_rea
And logically, a guilty mind requires the concept of freewill to exist otherwise there would be no sense of accomplishing wrong ( choosing wrong over right ).

No human judge in his right mind would have judged A & E the way God did as God set the conditions that insured that A & E also died from neglect and the locking away of the tree of life. That was murder.

Or perhaps it's just another lesson in the Bible that you've intentionally misinterpreted for your own purposes.

Did Eve have a free will while under supernatural control?

It's pretty obvious I've shown your argument makes no sense.