Dear lord, some people are dumb

[Dodge_Sniper]

WARNING: This thread contains graphic images of violence, please do not continue if you do not wish to see them.

From a Texas Chainsaw Massacre site...this was a hate mail sent to the administrator in response to his articles saying how the series is fiction.

http://www.texaschainsawmassacre.net...il/Natalie.txt

Hi. I'm 15, and I just read your site about how the Texas Chainsaw Massacre never happened, and I found it very interesting.
It seems to me like you might even be one of those people who don't believe the Holocaust never happened. Interesting.
However, how do you explain the real, actual footage in the new movie?
And what about the news reports and the police walking through after it happened?
I mean, there were brutal murders. And, believe it or not, my parents were alive then and -gasp- they saw it on the news!
Wow, what a shocker. I bet if you talked to a few families who lost their loved ones because of that whacko, you'd be convinced.
So, you fucking moron, get all the facts before you start denying tragedies like that never happened.
Just because you weren't there, doesn't mean it didn't happen. You might not have been in NYC during 9-11,
but that still happened. It was a horrible tragedy. And you may not have even been alive during the Holocaust in the 40s,
but it did happen. I have family members who were fighting against it and who lived through it.
So think twice next time you post some stupid ass site about how one a huge tragedy never happened.
You're a stupid, selfish, ignorant moron so GET A LIFE and get rid of that stupid site.
Have a nice day
dare2dream547@tampabay.rr.com

EDIT: And here's another one...

http://www.texaschainsawmassacre.net...onxdemandx.txt

For any of you who actually believe that movie, it was indeed a fake. As were the 5 or 6 sequels to the original movies from the 70's. The real story is on a guy named Ed Gein, who is long dead. He exhumed(Dug up) the dead bodies of women, raped them, and used their skin/bones for furniture, and made things such as a belt made out of nipples, or a vest/pants in the shape of breats and a vagina. He killed two women, I think they were named Mary Hogan and the other one was a sheriff's daughter. He killed his brother, but told authorities he died in a brush fire from asphixiation(SP?). His mother was extremely religious, he never was allowed female contact, so he grew up sick and twisted. In the end, his house was raided where they found a shed, and in the rafters were the bodies of his ONLY two victims, found gutted like deers. He was sent to an institution for the criminally insane where he died. It even happened in Wisconsin, not Texas, and he never used a chainsaw, he used a gun and an axe. More information from Crimelibrary.com listed below.

On November 17, 1957, police in Plainfield, Wisconsin arrived at the dilapidated farmhouse of Eddie Gein, who was a suspect in the robbery of a local hardware store and disappearance of the owner, Bernice Worden. Gein had been the last customer at the hardware store and had been seen loitering around the premises.

Removal of evidence at Gein's house

Gein's desolate farmhouse was a study in chaos. Inside, junk and rotting garbage covered the floor and counters. It was almost impossible to walk through the rooms. The smell of filth and decomposition was overwhelming. While the local sheriff, Arthur Schley, inspected the kitchen with his flashlight, he felt something brush against his jacket.
When he looked up to see what it was he ran into, he faced a large, dangling carcass hanging upside down from the beams. The carcass had been decapitated, slit open and gutted. An ugly sight to be sure, but a familiar one in that deer-hunting part of the country, especially during deer season.
It took a few moments to sink in, but soon Schley realized that it wasn't a deer at all, it was the headless butchered body of a woman. Bernice Worden, the fifty-year-old mother of his deputy Frank Worden, had been found.

Policeman in Ed Gein's kitchen


While the shocked deputies searched through the rubble of Eddie Gein's existence, they realized that the horrible discoveries didn't end at Mrs. Worden's body. They had stumbled into a death farm.

The funny-looking bowl was a top of a human skull. The lampshades and wastebasket were made from human skin.
A ghoulish inventory began to take shape: an armchair made of human skin, female genitalia kept preserved in a shoebox, a belt made of nipples, a human head, four noses and a heart.
The more they looked through the house, the more ghastly trophies they found. Finally a suit made entirely of human skin. Their heads spun as they tried to tally the number of women that may have died at Eddie's hands.
All of this bizarre handicraft made Eddie into a celebrity. Author Robert Bloch was inspired to write a story about Norman Bates, a character based on Eddie, which became the central theme of the Alfred Hitchcock's classic thriller Psycho.

Tony Perkins as Norman Bates in the movie "Psycho"

In 1974, the classic thriller by Tobe Hooper, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, has many Geinian touches, although there is no character that is an exact Eddie Gein model. This movie helped put "Ghastly Gein" back in the spotlight in the mid-1970's.
Years later, Eddie provided inspiration for the character of another serial killer, Buffalo Bill in The Silence of the Lambs. Like Eddie, Buffalo Bill treasured women's skin and wore it like clothing in some insane transvestite ritual.

The rest can be read at Crime Library: Eddie Gein

 

[SilentEyz]

Lol.. Well if you tell people its based on truth.. They prefer the hollywood image much more then checking out the facts or the history of it..

Hell look at the uproar that happened, and continues to happen with the Blair witch project, and not only was it a low class waste of time film.. It doesnt even have any history behind it. But so many insisted it was truth, and many still believe the lie.

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

Exactly, perfectly said. My friend(13 years old) Chelsea had never seen Blair Witch before and thought it was real! But you see, that's where the extras on the DVDs come in. Someone on another forum believes the SEQUELS and PREQUELS to The Texas Chainsaw Massacre are fake, the original movie itself is real. The story behind The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, prequels/sequels or not, is not true. It is LOOSELY based on a man from Wisconsin named Eddie Gein. What movie would you rather go see?

Wisconsin Rapist Stories

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre

The second one sounds more intriguing(SP?). The man even fucking said it on the DVD, he only thought up the chainsaw part because he was in a hardware section at a mall, it was crowded, and he said to his friend, "What would happen if I just picked up that chainsaw and started it in the middle of here? They would all get out of my way!". And that's how it was born. And for those of you who don't know, he was the man who made BOTH movies, the original and the remake.

 

[UncleBacon]

I work with people that believe its all true....I showed them the interview with tobe hooper the original director of the original tcm and he even said he got the idea for the movie by learning about ed geins and he just happened to be in a hardwood store and saw a chainsaw and just put 2 and 2 together

 

[UncleBacon]

well I guess yoiu said it as I was typing...too slow

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

Haha, yeah. I'm just used to repeating this "Ed Gein" shit so much, I could type it in my sleep -_-

You wouldn't believe the shit people take as true these days. INSPIRED doesn't mean it's that exact story. Just like with Wolf Creek. It was INSPIRED by the Australian Backpack Killer, but I doubt his name as Mick, I doubt he killed two girls and hung a man on a cross that escaped, and his name was Ben, etc.

 

[Trance97]

Exactly, perfectly said. My friend(13 years old) Chelsea had never seen Blair Witch before and thought it was real! But you see, that's where the extras on the DVDs come in. Someone on another forum believes the SEQUELS and PREQUELS to The Texas Chainsaw Massacre are fake, the original movie itself is real. The story behind The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, prequels/sequels or not, is not true. It is LOOSELY based on a man from Wisconsin named Eddie Gein. What movie would you rather go see?

Wisconsin Rapist Stories

The Texas Chainsaw Massacre

The second one sounds more intriguing(SP?). The man even fucking said it on the DVD, he only thought up the chainsaw part because he was in a hardware section at a mall, it was crowded, and he said to his friend, "What would happen if I just picked up that chainsaw and started it in the middle of here? They would all get out of my way!". And that's how it was born. And for those of you who don't know, he was the man who made BOTH movies, the original and the remake.

Exactly

 

[sharpies]

Actually Wolf Creek is loosely based on 2 Australian murderers.

One is Ivan Milat who raped & killed backpackers (8 or more, I think) & buried their bodies in National Parks. There was some torture before they were killed.

The other is Murdock (I think that's right). He killed a backpacker named Peter Falconio who was travelling with Joanne Lees - she escaped.

Allan

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

Thanks Allan. Here's what I found-

Twenty-six days had passed since Deborah Everist's body had been found in the forest. The searchers were tired. They had covered most of the allotted search area and were now entering the final gridded section three miles east of the last grave. Confidence was running high to the point that the police public relations section were already compiling a press release expressing the opinion that no further bodies would be found in Belangalo Forest.
The search team leader, Sergeant Jeff Trichter, led the searchers into a small clearing. A pair of pink women's jeans and a length of blue and yellow rope lay in plain view. Next to them was an empty .22 bullet packet. The find was not unusual as a lot of strange items had been found that were seemingly unrelated. Moving deeper into the clearing they found more articles. Empty drink cans riddled with bullet holes, a length of wire bent into loops, cartridge cases and empty bottles. At the edge of the clearing, Sergeant Trichter saw something that fired warning signals into his brain. A primitive fireplace.
Knowing that the final part of the search was going to be intensive, Trichter decided to give his men a lunch break and spend the rest of the day in the area. No sooner had they resumed when one of the men called 'find.'
The line stopped and Trichter walked to the edge of the rocky outcrop where Senior Constable Rullis stood with his arm raised. It was a bone and it looked human. Ten feet further on at the base of a pile of timber lay a skull. The sight was marked and the crime scene squad was summoned by radio.
Beyond the timber lay the, now familiar, pile of sticks and brush. Protruding from one end of it was a large bone inside a brown leather 'hiking' boot. Searchers spread out and scoured the area around the grave but no further remains were found. John Goldie, the senior crime scene investigator, identified the remains as female. She appeared to be alone.
A distinctive purple headband was found on the skull. That and the clothing found near the body, after comparisons with missing persons reports, indicated that the skeleton was all that remained of missing German girl, Simone Schmidl. The other items mentioned in the report, a large backpack and other camping equipment, were not found. Dr Chris Griffiths, the forensic odontologist, was summoned to the scene and shortly after he arrived with his file of dental charts, the body was officially identified as Simone.
This young adventurous girl who her family and friends had called "Simi," had been last seen on January 20th, 1991, in Liverpool, west of Sydney, hitch-hiking south. The confident and seasoned traveler who had seen much of the world ended her days in a lonely forest thousands of miles away from the safety and security of her home.
In Germany, Simone's parents heard the news in the worst possible way -- on the radio. They contacted German police for confirmation and, even though Australian authorities had advised them of the discovery, the German police department did not confirm the identification until more than two weeks after Simone's remains had been flown home and buried.
The original press release was aborted and another sent out in its place.
It basically said that police now believed that there were more bodies in the forest. Speculation was rife that the next bodies found would be those of the two Germans, who were still unaccounted for.
Simone's body was found still partially dressed with her shirt and underclothing pushed up around the neck. A pair of green shorts hung on the pelvis with the cord ties undone. Several items of jewelry and two coins were found next to the body. The pink jeans were not Simone's, but matched the description of a pair worn by another German girl, Anja Habschied. She and her boyfriend Gabor Neugebauer, had been missing since December 1991.
Two days later, as the search continued, the remains were transported to Sydney for the post mortem. Dr. Bradhurst examined the almost complete skeleton. He had no doubt that it was the work of the same killer.
There was no injury to the skull. The chest and back showed numerous stab wounds to the left and right sides, front and back, including the "tell-tale" knife thrusts to the spinal area, which had severed the spinal column completely. No sooner had he completed his grisly task than he was summoned back to the forest. The message was simple, "We've found two more."
Dr. Bradhurst and Dr. Griffiths were conveyed to the scene by police helicopter and taken to the site of the new graves which lay 150 feet apart at the very edge of the prescribed search area denoted on the map as "Area A."
Dr. Griffiths had in his possession the dental charts for the boy, Gabor. The charts for his companion, Anja, had not arrived from Germany. Gabor's remains were under a pile of brush partially covered by a large log. It took several burly police officers to lift it away from the grave.
Dr. Griffiths confirmed Gabor's identity. His skeleton was complete with the remains of decayed clothing evident, including a pair of jeans with the zip opened and the top button fastened. The second body, although not officially confirmed as Anja's, was that of a young female. The upper clothing was bunched up around the shoulders and no lower clothing was found on or near the body. The pink jeans had been found some distance away. The female skeleton had one striking feature, the head and the first two vertebrae were missing. No other wounds were evident.
On closer examination Dr. Bradhurst deduced that the head had been severed from the body cleanly by a sharp instrument, possibly a machete or sword. The angle of the cut indicated that the victim had probably been in a kneeling position with her head down when the cut was made. It showed all the signs of some form of "ritual" decapitation.
The Task Force Commander, Clive Small, gave a short media interview near the gravesites. He told reporters that following the discovery of the new bodies that they were now looking for a "serial killer." It came as no surprise. The media had been reporting that opinion since the investigation began.
Back at the morgue, Dr. Bradhurst examined Gabor's remains. The mouth contained two gags. One that had been tied across the mouth using a "reef" knot. The other had been placed in the mouth prior to the other being tied. Even though Bradhurst had performed all of the autopsies, he still retained the details of them all in his mind. One thing that didn't escape his attention was the fact that this gag was tied with a different knot. The last gag used, the one on Joanne Walter's body, had been tied in a simple overhand, or "granny" knot.
The size of the cloth in the mouth cavity made strangulation very likely. Supportive to this theory was the fractured hyoid bone in the throat, which is usually an indication of manual strangulation. The jaw was fractured in several places. The skull showed six bullet entry wounds, three from the left rear and the others from the lower rear. One exit wound was found on the right side. Gerald Dutton the ballistics investigator on the case, was present when the examination of the skull took place. Four bullets were recovered from inside the skull. A fifth bullet was recovered from the bones of the upper body.
Dutton had found no fired cases near the body and the angle and alignment of the entry wounds versus the exit wounds indicated that seven bullets had been fired into the skull. When found, the skull had been laying on its side but, after searching the soil under the grave, no spent bullets were recovered. Gabor had not been killed at the gravesite. Later, several fired bullets and empty cartridge packets would be found near the new graves. Over ninety fired cases were found scattered around the area. After examination under a comparison microscope, the cases and bullets were positively identified as the same as those found at the Walter's site.
The ballistic evidence showed conclusively that the same weapon that murdered Joanne Walters had been used only 200 feet from Anja and Gabor's remains. Dr. Bradhurst completed the examination of Anja's skeleton and found no other evidence of additional wounds.
Most horrifying was the fact that the seven had died in various ways. They had been either beaten, strangled, shot, stabbed and decapitated and almost certainly sexually molested in some way, male and female alike. Given the extent of the injuries and the various methods used to inflict them, the investigation team deduced that the killer, or killers spent more time with each victim as the crimes progressed. This fact indicated that, apart from being cruel and sadistic, the perpetrator was a calculating and confident individual.
Read the rest at Crime Library: Ivan Milat

 

[EmperorKupcake]

Ugh. Its beyond disgusting seeing what these insane people do for inner pleasure. The only thing more disgusting than the actual acts, is that people go to the movies and enjoy watching it all happen. How the hell did that happen?

But concerning that email. That displays how stupid and fickle the teenage mind can be. So quick to judgement without thoroughly thinking things through. Yeah, I know, I'm a teenager. Granted, I have moments like that. But the reason for quick actions can be related with a lack of education. Just today in School, I was observing role of American Ignorance in History. Impulsive actions are the result of a lack of education and/or life experience.

So, all in all, don't blame the kid for his impulsive behavior. Blame America's sub-par school systems, his parents, and surplus hormones.

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

Don't knock it till you try it. These movies aren't enjoyed for the sick acts played out, it's the suspense, the love of fear. As crazy as it sounds, I love being scared out of my mined. SAW, the movie isn't loved for it's gore-content, we[The SAW fans] DON'T want that much gore. We love the creativity of the traps, the intelligence, etc.

 

[elluko]

Oh noes! I try to clicky the linkies and it just says 404 not found!

 

[EmperorKupcake]

Don't knock it till you try it. These movies aren't enjoyed for the sick acts played out, it's the suspense, the love of fear. As crazy as it sounds, I love being scared out of my mined. SAW, the movie isn't loved for it's gore-content, we[The SAW fans] DON'T want that much gore. We love the creativity of the traps, the intelligence, etc.

Well, SAW is one movie. It has intellegence. However, Texas Chainsaw Massacre is basically a guy running around, going looney with a chainsaw, and then wearing people's flesh as clothing. SAW is a lot more clever than TCM.

 

[Trance97]

Well, SAW is one movie. It has intellegence. However, Texas Chainsaw Massacre is basically a guy running around, going looney with a chainsaw, and then wearing people's flesh as clothing. SAW is a lot more clever than TCM.

I actually enjoyed TCM. They really did a good job with that movie. What I mean by that is they made it pretty scary compared to a lot of the cheesy, predictable horror movies today.

 

[Dodge_Sniper]

TCM was a great movie. I loved it.

 

[Peter Parka]

I've only seen the first TCSM film, is the re make any good? The original was pretty annoying as all the sound seemed to be was a chainsaw going for an hour flat mixed with screaming! The disabled kid was so annoying too, I was actually glad when he got killed!:eek