Dead Beat Fathers

[GoldDust Woman]

You need to go back and read your own attachment. The "base child support" is $440.00 a month - then there is $300.00 for day-care, which is half of the total amount of $600.00 a month. (Listed in the left hand pane) Then there is an additional $175.00 for insurance - which, I'm sure is equivalent to half of the actual monthly premium.

So, you think it's fair for the custodial parent to absorb the entire insurance premium, which would be $350.00 a month, and day-care expense, which would be $600.00 a month? That's a total of $950.00 a month, just for insurance and someone to care for your child so you can work.

$440.00 a month will barely feed a child, (unless you're feeding Ramen Noodles for each meal), much less clothe them.


Why, oh why, did I even come back here?

 

[The Man]

You need to go back and read your own attachment. The "base child support" is $440.00 a month - then there is $300.00 for day-care, which is half of the total amount of $600.00 a month. (Listed in the left hand pane) Then there is an additional $175.00 for insurance - which, I'm sure is equivalent to half of the actual monthly premium.

So, you think it's fair for the custodial parent to absorb the entire insurance premium, which would be $350.00 a month, and day-care expense, which would be $600.00 a month? That's a total of $950.00 a month, just for insurance and someone to care for your child so you can work.

$440.00 a month will barely feed a child, (unless you're feeding Ramen Noodles for each meal), much less clothe them.


Why, oh why, did I even come back here?

You need to go back and read your own attachment. The "base child support" is $440.00 a month - then there is $300.00 for day-care, which is half of the total amount of $600.00 a month. (Listed in the left hand pane) Then there is an additional $175.00 for insurance

Thats the base...look above that for the total
daycare can well run over 300 a month for 2 kids..its actually on the soft side.
175 insurance for 2 kids also on the soft side.
Just typical is all and doable with some shopping.

So, you think it's fair for the custodial parent to absorb the entire insurance premium, which would be $350.00 a month,

No and yes...I dont believe in insurance and pay cash.
A better plan will always be found when someone else is paying right?
Point is...lower insurance can be had if we raise the deductible.

and day-care expense, which would be $600.00 a month?

Day care is kinda high...people use to use baby sitters.
But how about this...how about she bring the kids to his house and pay him the 600 !!!...now he can afford to eat :tooth...wait they will call it earnings and take half of it anyway....but wait....she will be getting back half of what she paid him...yes every one is a winner.

$440.00 a month will barely feed a child, (unless you're feeding Ramen Noodles for each meal),

Thats a lot of noodles...if it takes that much to feed a kid...should the man not get 800 a moth allowance for food for himself?

If I may ask...how much is the guy who isnt paying you supposed to be paying?
If its reasonable then by all means he is a POS....but if it is one of those crazy dollar figures then I can understand how he would be forced to go underground and work for cash.

 

[Accountable]

States are bound by Fed constitution.
A simple example being due process..without it Oregon could say Execute a man without a trial for an unpaid parking ticket.

Oregon Constitution:
Section 10. Administration of justice. No court shall be secret, but justice shall be administered, openly and without purchase, completely and without delay, and every man shall have remedy by due course of law for injury done him in his person, property, or reputation.—
http://www.leg.state.or.us/orcons/orcons.html

Then we have gender rights etc...the list is endless.

No, it's not. There is no issue other than international or intrastate that the federal government has any interest in, per the Constitution. The expansion is purely artificial, creatively interpreted by the federal courts.

I am not saying it works...all we have to do is look at the patriot act to see protections are disregarded....They do want they want to do anyway.

You've changed the subject. We were talking about the federal constitution applying to state gov't. Of course it applies to the federal gov't.

 

[The Man]

Amendment 14 states the following

Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Amendment VII

Rights in civil cases

In Suits at common law, where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury shall be otherwise re-examined in any Court of the United States, than according to the rules of the common law.


Amendment X

States' rights

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

What this means is that states can create and regulate laws as they wish ...as long as doesn't violate the Fed constitution.

A simple example would be slavery....abolished...thus a state can not allow slavery.

 

[The Man]

Not sure what happened with this below..but it was declared unconstitutional.
To top it all off...the man had custody of the child...he didnt want child support from the mother.
The state a couple years later thought they would start to hammer her anyway.

So here is what we have.
They had a clean separation...the father didnt want to get any child support from her.{ I dont know if she gave him money when she could or what the deal was}
Two years later...the state decides they are going to garnish her and give it to him anyway.

As said I dont know what become of it but it does go to show...even if you agree on no support,,,they still have to get involved in your life.

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GEORGIA DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RESOURCES ex. rel.
CHARLES R. REDDICK Special Assistant Attorney General o/b/o
ROBIN KAYLA SWEAT SAMUEL E. SWEAT, JR. CYNTHIA M. SWEAT Plaintiff

v.

MICHELLE L. SWEAT And SAMUEL SWEAT, SR. Defendants

* CIVIL ACTION NO. 2000 C 127 *

ORDER DECLARING GEORGIA'S CHILD SUPPORT GUIDELINES VOID AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL

http://www.akidsright.org/child_support_guidelines.htm

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