Christian Patriarchy.

[Tuffdisc]

Yet in Eden, your God left out many of the details of the benefits and loses of A & E eating of the tree of knowledge.

Do you see that as dishonest as well?

Regards
DL

No I don't feel that is dishonest, God never told a lie so how can that be dishonesty...sheesh, you really need to look up dishonesty in the dictionary

 

[Tim]

Dishonesty: characterized by lack of truth, honesty, or trustworthiness

You don't have to lie to be dishonest.

 

[Minor Axis]

Yet in Eden, your God left out many of the details of the benefits and loses of A & E eating of the tree of knowledge.

Do you see that as dishonest as well?

Regards
DL

Your not going to get a straight forward answer... some bullshit instead.

No I don't feel that is dishonest, God never told a lie so how can that be dishonesty...sheesh, you really need to look up dishonesty in the dictionary

If you are going to debate this point, if Adam and Eve lacked the perception of "Good and Evil" then why would Eve disobey God? In religious circles disobeying your God is considered evil is it not? This story is a vain attempt to explain where good and evil came from... yes a symbolic tree.

Now if it is said the story of Adam and Eve is simply God telling them to obey him (not be evil), and they disobeyed well then, the story makes more sense although it is THE TYPICAL religious message, obey your God or else! And I think the guy writing it short changed the women of this world.

 

[Greatest I am]

Dishonesty: characterized by lack of truth, honesty, or trustworthiness

You don't have to lie to be dishonest.

+ 1

T D.

This is my response as well.

Lying is nothing much when compared to his just letting A & E die by pulling a J W and not giving them what was required for life.
I call that murder.

Regards
DL

 

[doombug]

Come on GIA. Stop preaching and start proving.

 

[Tuffdisc]

Dishonesty: characterized by lack of truth, honesty, or trustworthiness

You don't have to lie to be dishonest.

Where is the lack of honesty and truth where it does us good to not to know?

 

[BornReady]

Where is the lack of honesty and truth where it does us good to not to know?

That sounds like the title of one of the chapters in Eusebius' 12th Book of Evangelical Preparation: That it is necessary sometimes to use falsehood as a medicine for those who need such an approach. The title was probably given by a later scribe. Eusebius was a 3rd century Roman historian and Christian polemicist. He is considered the Father of Church History and, according to Jacob Burckhardt, "the first thoroughly dishonest historian of antiquity".

 

[Greatest I am]

Where is the lack of honesty and truth where it does us good to not to know?

As in the believers not knowing that their religion is based on human sacrifice thus making it immoral?

That and that their evil God does not exist and never did?

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

As in the believers not knowing that their religion is based on human sacrifice thus making it immoral?

That and that their evil God does not exist and never did?

Regards
DL

Sacrifice? It was a self sacrifice as in the person wanted to prove that their was a God that loves mankind, but not what they were doing or still are. So it is hardly a God that is evil. Don't you ever think about what you say?

I personally think that it is hardly a good thing to have knowledge what evil man can do, so God hiding the truth away from us was a good idea and the fact that God said not to eat the apple from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil isn't really being dishonest, because he said that. So no dishonesty was committed. I really do not know what Bible you are reading, but it isn't the Bible I have read

 

[doombug]

Sacrifice? It was a self sacrifice as in the person wanted to prove that their was a God that loves mankind, but not what they were doing or still are. So it is hardly a God that is evil. Don't you ever think about what you say?

I personally think that it is hardly a good thing to have knowledge what evil man can do, so God hiding the truth away from us was a good idea and the fact that God said not to eat the apple from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil isn't really being dishonest, because he said that. So no dishonesty was committed. I really do not know what Bible you are reading, but it isn't the Bible I have read

GIA is only preaching his opinion. He hasn't shown that his idea has any credibility so it is complete nonsense anyway.

 

[Tuffdisc]

GIA is only preaching his opinion. He hasn't shown that his idea has any credibility so it is complete nonsense anyway.

I know, its like going around in circles and preaching to a brick wall, the person is self-opinionated and wants to feel that he is correct and no one can question himself otherwise he gets in his moods and starts cussing at people

 

[BornReady]

It was a self sacrifice as in the person wanted to prove that their was a God that loves mankind, but not what they were doing or still are.

I understand that but the idea of blood sacrifice for the remission of sin, especially human sacrifice, is too archaic (to put it nicely) for modern civilization. We can create a much better doctrine of forgiveness today.

 

[doombug]

I understand that but the idea of blood sacrifice for the remission of sin, especially human sacrifice, is too archaic (to put it nicely) for modern civilization. We can create a much better doctrine of forgiveness today.

Really? Like what?

 

[Tuffdisc]

I understand that but the idea of blood sacrifice for the remission of sin, especially human sacrifice, is too archaic (to put it nicely) for modern civilization. We can create a much better doctrine of forgiveness today.

The only thing I can see in atheist to "forgive" is to allow things to happen. Now I am not talking about attacking people who do wrong, I am talking about telling people they are doing wrong, everytime I see or hear a person that says something is wrong, the wrongdoers throw a certain card at them then get a group of other people to go against Christians just because of their beliefs

 

[Greatest I am]

Sacrifice? It was a self sacrifice as in the person wanted to prove that their was a God that loves mankind, but not what they were doing or still are. So it is hardly a God that is evil. Don't you ever think about what you say?

I personally think that it is hardly a good thing to have knowledge what evil man can do, so God hiding the truth away from us was a good idea and the fact that God said not to eat the apple from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil isn't really being dishonest, because he said that. So no dishonesty was committed. I really do not know what Bible you are reading, but it isn't the Bible I have read

And we will never agree while you follow a genocidal maniac who, in your eyes, can do no evil.
It sure is good to use genocide against children and innocent babies.

Yep. That is good justice for sure.

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

The only thing I can see in atheist to "forgive" is to allow things to happen. Now I am not talking about attacking people who do wrong, I am talking about telling people they are doing wrong, everytime I see or hear a person that says something is wrong, the wrongdoers throw a certain card at them then get a group of other people to go against Christians just because of their beliefs

Is that what any good man would do?
Especially in cases like the following?

African witches and Jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlRG9gXriVI&feature=related

Jesus Camp 1of 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBv8tv62yGM

Promoting death to Gays.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMw2Zg_BVzw&feature=related


For evil to grow my friends, all good people need do is nothing.
Fight them when you can. It is your duty to your fellow man.

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

Is that what any good man would do?
Especially in cases like the following?

African witches and Jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlRG9gXriVI&feature=related

Jesus Camp 1of 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBv8tv62yGM

Promoting death to Gays.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMw2Zg_BVzw&feature=related


For evil to grow my friends, all good people need do is nothing.
Fight them when you can. It is your duty to your fellow man.

Regards
DL

Do you always spam the same diatribe of youtube videos? Nothing new, I suppose atheists never do such things?

 

[Greatest I am]

Thanks for ignoring the question.
Lurkers will learn from that.

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

Thanks for ignoring the question.
Lurkers will learn from that.

Regards
DL

I think you have ignored the whole point

 

[doombug]

And we will never agree while you follow a genocidal maniac who, in your eyes, can do no evil.
It sure is good to use genocide against children and innocent babies.

Yep. That is good justice for sure.

Regards
DL

So you think it is good to use genocide against children? I'm not surprised you think this way.