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Lawsuit: Carter Guilty of Consumer Fraud, Foists Lies on Readers


by David Lev
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While former U.S. President Jimmy Carter has a perfect right to his anti-Israel opinions – and certainly has the right to publish a book full of those opinions – he does not have the right to fob off a work of fiction as fact. That, says Israeli activist attorney Nitzana Darshan-Leitner, is what has earned him the opprobrium of dozens of people who bought his book, “Palestine: Peace or Apartheid.” And now, says Darshan-Leitner, she is representing those unhappy customers in a class-action lawsuit against Carter, in order to get them a refund.

Of course, Darshan-Leitner tells Israel National News, the issue is not simply one of consumer fraud. “During the trial, we will of course have to examine the facts in question, and we will of course unveil the falsity of much of what he writes. Carter makes numerous claims in the book that he knows to be false, and we know that he knows them to be false.”

According to the complaint, filed in a New York court, Carter, “as a former American president and self-proclaimed Middle East expert ... knew that substantial and material portions of the book were untrue, and has failed to advise the public,” putting him in violation of New York State's Consumer Protection Laws, “specifically New York General Business Law section 349, which makes it unlawful to engage in deceptive acts in the course of conducting business.” The lawsuit also includes Carter's publisher, Simon and Schuster, as a defendant, since it allegedly refused to correct the facts, despite receiving numerous complaints from irate customers.

Among the errors in the book, says Darshan-Leitner, is Carter's misrepresentation of UN Security Council Resolutions 242 and 336, which he cites as proof that Israel must withdraw to the 1949 armistice lines. “Even a child reading the documents will note that the resolutions say 'withdraw from land,' not 'all the land' captured in 1967,” Darshan-Leitner says.



Carter wrote this despite the fact that Lord Caradon (British diplomat Hugh M. Foot), who authored the resolution, specifically stated that this was not the intent of the resolution. In a discussion in the House of Commons in 1969, Caradon said that “it would have been wrong to demand that Israel return to its positions of June 4, 1967, because those positions were undesirable and artificial.” The suit cites this and numerous other quotes by Caradon and others affirming this fact.

In addition, the suit says, Carter falsely depicted the 1949 armistice lines as an international border (they have never been recognized as such), that Israel has never “granted appreciable autonomy to the Palestinians” (thus ignoring the establishment and continued existence of the Palestinian Authority), and that Syria was prepared to accept a demilitarized Golan Heights (Syrian diplomats specifically denied that).
In all, the suit cites over 50 specific facts that Carter got wrong, either out of ignorance or deliberately. Evidence contradicting Carter's assertion is brought from publicly available sources, including newspapers and books, as well as in affidavits from former members of Carter's own inner circle and negotiating teams.

Darshan-Leitner said that neither she nor her partner in the lawsuit, David Schoen of Montgomery, Alabama, contacted Carter, since he has asserted many times, in print and in the media, that his statements are accurate. “Besides, many readers have contacted him and his publisher, only to be completely ignored. After their pleas for accuracy were not answered, they turned to us, and hence the lawsuit.”

As the readers of the book, which sold about 200,000 copies, can be assumed to be reasonably well informed on Middle East affairs, the insult to their intelligence was all the greater, the attorney says. “Carter continuously portrayed his book as being accurate, and it was on that basis that readers bought the book. Imagine their disappointment, frustration and anger at being presented with a work of fiction.”
Readers spent on average $27 for the book, so Darshan-Leitner is seeking about $5 million in compensatory damages in order to enable all customers to get their money back – plus, of course, punitive damages and court costs.

And she has no fears that a judge will refuse to hear the case because of politics – because, although the context is political, the case is really about misrepresentation, slander, and consumer rights. “The lawsuit will expose all the falsehoods and misrepresentations in Carter's book and prove that his hatred of Israel has led him to commit this fraud on the public,” Darshan-Leitner added. “He is entitled to his opinions, but deceptions and lies have no place in works of history.”

(IsraelNationalNews.com)
 
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I know that I'm Canadian but I've always thought of Jimmy Carter as being a man of integrity and honesty, it's difficult for me to think of him as a fraud. I don't know..I'll have to do some research on this topic before I comment any further.

I liked coming into the debate section to find a topic without a religious tone to it though.....how genuinely refreshing.
 
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Carter was an incompetent dope. He should have stayed on the Peanut Farm. He was a failure as a president and proves it again and again why.
 

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I know that I'm Canadian but I've always thought of Jimmy Carter as being a man of integrity and honesty, it's difficult for me to think of him as a fraud. I don't know..I'll have to do some research on this topic before I comment any further.

I liked coming into the debate section to find a topic without a religious tone to it though.....how genuinely refreshing.
give this a minute, it'll get religious. i stumbled onto the story when another anti-zionist jewish activist posted it on facebook. the zionists can't handle jews criticizing them because it blows their anti-zionism is anti-semitism defense.

jimmy carter is one of the only honest men to hold the office of president in my lifetime. dwight eisenhower was the other one. i'm not sure about john kennedy, but certainly the rest of them have been deceitful tools of the multi-national industrialist banker gangsters.

he is entitled to his opinion on historical events. the suit is frivolous at best.
 

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Carter was an incompetent dope. He should have stayed on the Peanut Farm. He was a failure as a president and proves it again and again why.
your statement is an illogical ad hominem fallacy broadside.

his failure as a president, if his presidency can truly be called a failure, was largely due to his blowing into washington with his homies and trying to run the show without bowing down to entrenched senators and bureaucrats resulting in his holding the record for the most vetoes overridden by congress.
 

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your statement is an illogical ad hominem fallacy broadside.

his failure as a president, if his presidency can truly be called a failure, was largely due to his blowing into washington with his homies and trying to run the show without bowing down to entrenched senators and bureaucrats resulting in his holding the record for the most vetoes overridden by congress.

It was no accident he got voted out after one term

Anybody other than a liberal who lived during that time knows full well how horrid a leader he was. In every shape and way.
 

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It was no accident he got voted out after one term

Anybody other than a liberal who lived during that time knows full well how horrid a leader he was. In every shape and way.


I suppose that's why he won the Nobel Peace Prize? .....so he only served one term....the way I look at it, America was lucky to have him at all.
 

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It was no accident he got voted out after one term

Anybody other than a liberal who lived during that time knows full well how horrid a leader he was. In every shape and way.
nope sure wasn't. he had a lot of help with a maneuver bush and reagan pulled with the iranians.

that's twice now you've made empty, non sequitur remarks. please expound and give examples or hold your water.
 

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I suppose that's why he won the Nobel Peace Prize? .....so he only served one term....the way I look at it, America was lucky to have him at all.
Nah, he got that for the same reason Obama did: as a political statement - nothing at all to do with the man or his accomplishments.
 

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Nah, he got that for the same reason Obama did: as a political statement - nothing at all to do with the man or his accomplishments.


I've heard this so many times....and each time I do, it reminds me of sour grapes. Jimmy Carters achievements speak for themselves. He may not have been the type of president who played ball, so to speak, but I think he did more in his short time as president than most could ever hope for.
 

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nope sure wasn't. he had a lot of help with a maneuver bush and reagan pulled with the iranians.

that's twice now you've made empty, non sequitur remarks. please expound and give examples or hold your water.

Lets see now

double digit unemployment ---- yup

bungled handling of Iranian hostages --- yup

interest rates in the high teens ---- yup

The guy could not lead a soup kitchen

And what do you have?? ........ A nice honest man

Wow that is some kind of leadership skills

I give him one accomplishment. Which is tainted as it was basically a buy off and that was his getting Egypt to make peace with Israel.

Big whoopty doo. As the country fell apart around him
 

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Lets see now

double digit unemployment ---- yup

bungled handling of Iranian hostages --- yup

interest rates in the high teens ---- yup

The guy could not lead a soup kitchen

And what do you have?? ........ A nice honest man

Wow that is some kind of leadership skills

I give him one accomplishment. Which is tainted as it was basically a buy off and that was his getting Egypt to make peace with Israel.

Big whoopty doo. As the country fell apart around him

double digit unemployment ---- yup (
carter wasn't responsible for dd unemployment, that boat sunk way before he became president and it's still an issue.

bungled handling of Iranian hostages --- yup
HE WAS SUCCESSFUL...an important point, one you fail to see...

interest rates in the high teens ---- yup
presidents can't reduce interest rates, only congress can do that....

The guy could not lead a soup kitchen I wasn't aware that he ever lead one..do you have the name of this soup kitchen?


And what do you have?? ........ A nice honest man Yes indeed, more so than any president since and most before....

Wow that is some kind of leadership skills

I give him one accomplishment. Which is tainted as it was basically a buy off and that was his getting Egypt to make peace with Israel.

Big whoopty doo.....huge
 

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go check the facts

see what the economy was like when he took office and left

the facts speak for themselves

what facts? he was totally hamstrung by congress and they're the ones who write the laws that move the economy. i suppose george bush had nothing to do with the current recession or budget deficits during his great presidency

here's a chronicle of his administration.
http://www.jimmycarterlibrary.gov/documents/jec/chron.phtml
 

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what facts? he was totally hamstrung by congress and they're the ones who write the laws that move the economy. i suppose george bush had nothing to do with the current recession or budget deficits during his great presidency

here's a chronicle of his administration.
http://www.jimmycarterlibrary.gov/documents/jec/chron.phtml


Unless the economy has taken a turn for the better since, it's very difficult for me to accept Allens reasoning for using it as an example now.
 

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94th Congress (1975-1977) - Senate
Majority Party: Democrat (60 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (38 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Conservative; 1 Independent
Total Seats: 100



95th Congress (1977-1979) - Senate
Majority Party: Democrat (61 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (38 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent
Total Seats: 100



96th Congress (1979-1981) - Senate
Majority Party: Democrat (58 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (41 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent
Total Seats: 100






1976 - House
Democrats 292
Republicans 143

1977 - House
Democrats 292
Republicans 143

1976 - House
Democrats 277
Republicans 158


1980 - House
Democrats 243
Republicans 192



That my friend is a super majority. It proves Carter was not a leader. He could not even get his party to agree.

Keep trying. You just make yourself look more foolish doing so though
 

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94th Congress (1975-1977) - Senate
Majority Party: Democrat (60 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (38 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Conservative; 1 Independent
Total Seats: 100



95th Congress (1977-1979) - Senate
Majority Party: Democrat (61 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (38 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent
Total Seats: 100



96th Congress (1979-1981) - Senate
Majority Party: Democrat (58 seats)
Minority Party: Republican (41 seats)
Other Parties: 1 Independent
Total Seats: 100






1976 - House
Democrats 292
Republicans 143

1977 - House
Democrats 292
Republicans 143

1976 - House
Democrats 277
Republicans 158


1980 - House
Democrats 243
Republicans 192



That my friend is a super majority. It proves Carter was not a leader. He could not even get his party to agree.

Keep trying. You just make yourself look more foolish doing so though

Carters only problem had to do with his character.....he had too much of it!!! ....perhaps if he had lowered himself to learn how to play dirty pool in the white house, we wouldn't be having this conversation now.
 
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