Canadians angered over "Buy American" rule

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WHISTLER, British Columbia (Reuters) - Canadian municipal leaders threatened to retaliate against the "Buy America" movement in the United States on Saturday, warning trade restrictions will hurt both countries' economies.
The Federation of Canadian Municipalities endorsed a controversial proposal to support communities that refuse to buy products from countries that put trade restrictions on products and services from Canada.
The measure is a response to a provision in the U.S. economic stimulus package passed by Congress in February that says public works projects should use iron, steel and other goods made in the United States.
The United States is Canada's largest trading partner, and Canadians have complained the restrictions will bar their companies from billions of dollars in business that they have previously had access to.
"This U.S. protectionist policy is hurting Canadian firms, costing Canadian jobs and damaging Canadian efforts to grow our economy in the midst of a worldwide recession," said Sherbrooke, Quebec, Mayor Jean Perrault, also president of the federation that represents cities and towns across Canada.
The municipal officials meeting at the federation's convention in Whistler, British Columbia, endorsed the measure despite complaints by Canadian trade officials.
Trade Minister Stockwell Day told the group on Friday that Ottawa was actively negotiating with Washington to get the "Buy American" restrictions removed.
The measure's supporters agreed to modify it slightly by suspending implementation for 120 days, in order to give Canadian trade officials and U.S. critics of the "Buy America" rules more time to work on the issue.
'UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES'
The only Canadian community to enact an anti-"Buy American" purchasing rule so far is Halton Hills, Ontario, where a major employer, Hayward Gordon, is worried about losing its access to the United States.
The company's water treatment equipment includes parts that are produced in the United States, and critics of the "Buy American" rule say that is an example of how the restriction could end up costing U.S. jobs.
"Leaders in the United States have to understand this could have unintended consequences," said Clark Somerville, acting mayor of Halton Hills, which sponsored the measure approved by the federation delegates.
Some Canadian communities complained any retaliation effort could have unintended consequences of its own, including driving up the cost of infrastructure projects being considered to help stimulate Canada's economy.
"We as local officials have a responsibility to get the best possible deal we can for taxpayers," said Jim Stevenson, a city alderman in Calgary, Alberta.
Halton Hills councilor Jane Fogal acknowledged the views of Canada municipal officials will likely carry little weight with the American public, but she hoped it would at least make them take notice of the issue. "We want Americans talking to Americans," she said.
Source: Canadians angered over Buy American rule | Reuters
 
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Typical american hypocracy. They don't practice what they preach. They are signatory to free trade with many countries and yet they do just the opposite.
 

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People are fucking ignorant. The whole reason the "Buy American" movement or whatever is here is because foreign companies for so long have come in and bought out what were once American owned and operated companies. Do you know how many fucking mills in America have closed or sold out to foreign companies? We don't produce shit anymore.

I'm all for buying American. I see nothing wrong with wanting to support ones own economy buy actually making products for our country by our country.
 

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i dispute the angry bit, a bit upset maybe and possibly might swear if things:p get worse but we do not do anger, would be rude
 

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I'm all for buying American. I see nothing wrong with wanting to support ones own economy buy actually making products for our country by our country.
If we turn off the water, the oil / gas and hydro where the fuck do you suppose it will come from? There's a limit to everything. If only our govt would smarten the hell up your idiotic govt reps wouldn't be so damn quick to spout the shit they do.
 

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So enough of Canadians kissing Americans asses and trade with new countries then? :D
Both of us can trade with what ever countries we want but when the US spews that gibberish I say it's time to turn off the taps. Their problems would just begin if we did and they would change their tune in a hurry. Of course they would spout the free trade shit and say how unfair it is but that's exactly what they have been doing to us for years. The softwood lumber agreement is a case in point.
 

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Both of us can trade with what ever countries we want but when the US spews that gibberish I say it's time to turn off the taps. Their problems would just begin if we did and they would change their tune in a hurry. Of course they would spout the free trade shit and say how unfair it is but that's exactly what they have been doing to us for years. The softwood lumber agreement is a case in point.


yeah I heard that Canadians only really suffer with the softwood agreement, I wouldn't know the details of it though but I do know we're getting ripped off a new one.
 

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yeah I heard that Canadians only really suffer with the softwood agreement, I wouldn't know the details of it though but I do know we're getting ripped off a new one.
The courts have ruled against the US on that issue many times and yet they continue to fight a loosing battle. They collected illegal tariffs and they admitted it. Do you think they'll pay it back? Not in our lifetime. That's just the tip of the iceberg. They don't give a shit about what anyone says.
 

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Just a partial boycott of Boeing in favour of Airbus at least 50,000 american jobs will be lost.
We don't buy enough aircraft to put a dent in Boeing. What would hit the mark though would be to turn the oil taps off for a little while. The U.S imports more oil from Canada than from any other country on the planet. Can you imagine the shortage that would create? I remember the " shortage " from years ago and the lineups were horrendous. Think of what they would be like today. The US politicians would be screaming at the tops of their lungs how unfair we were. tisk... tisk...
 

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We don't buy enough aircraft to put a dent in Boeing. What would hit the mark though would be to turn the oil taps off for a little while. The U.S imports more oil from Canada than from any other country on the planet. Can you imagine the shortage that would create? I remember the " shortage " from years ago and the lineups were horrendous. Think of what they would be like today. The US politicians would be screaming at the tops of their lungs how unfair we were. tisk... tisk...
Protectionism exists with not only canada but other countires too, so the impact is not just a solid dent but an explosive one.
 

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People are fucking ignorant. The whole reason the "Buy American" movement or whatever is here is because foreign companies for so long have come in and bought out what were once American owned and operated companies. Do you know how many fucking mills in America have closed or sold out to foreign companies? We don't produce shit anymore.

I'm all for buying American. I see nothing wrong with wanting to support ones own economy buy actually making products for our country by our country.

jaguar.......once a status symbol produced near me.....hand built at the time.....now its american owned its a production car churned out in its thousands.....american companies have bought overseas companies too.....and ran them down

i would guess that very little of what you buy dana is actually american made....from the shirt on your back to that camera you just bought,if a car company says its car is built with 90% american products it doesn't actually mean just the car parts...it includes such things as detergents cleaners use to mop the floors,or the pens supervisors write with trackside......it'll even include the toilet paper the workers wipe they're arses with.....anything thats used during production

and its not just your mills that are going under dana....theres a worldwide recession going on,companies are closing globally with the loss of jobs everywhere
 

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People are fucking ignorant. The whole reason the "Buy American" movement or whatever is here is because foreign companies for so long have come in and bought out what were once American owned and operated companies. Do you know how many fucking mills in America have closed or sold out to foreign companies? We don't produce shit anymore.

I'm all for buying American. I see nothing wrong with wanting to support ones own economy buy actually making products for our country by our country.

you'll probably find that most of these companies closed up and reopened in 3rd world countries where they can pay the work force a bowl of rice a day
 

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Typical american hypocracy. They don't practice what they preach. They are signatory to free trade with many countries and yet they do just the opposite.

I'm starting to think you have an anit-American streak in you. However, while we do have tariffs, subsidies, and other restrictions on imports, we are still one of the most free economies in the world. With that said I'm against any kind of government interference at all in our economy, but it's an unrealistic wish.

Also, it's just about impossible to know where anything is made any more. Many American companies have been bought and traded all over the world and often times it happens with out making the news or is quickly skipped over. If anybody wanted to buy American it would take hours of research to track all your products and companies, and not to mention finding out who the parent companies are and where they are located.

This is just another move by Obama to do his best at destroying America and its economy.
 
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