Can people not be nice for the sake of being nice?

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TheOriginalJames

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it sounds like, if he had taken a different or more soft approach he may have got your number. And most woman dont like a persistant guy if they turn him down off the bat.
So it was his cockyness and errogance that turned you off mainly right?

I'll bet there was absolutely no way he was getting her number because of the way she put it. "I don't give my number to strangers..." etc.

He put his best game on and tried flirting with her, but she blew him off. When you get blown off the charm dies off and the anger comes forward.

Thats why he turned into the asshole to end all assholes.
 
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Ive been out all morning running errands, paying bills, etc. I decided after it was all taken care of that I was going to run to Sonic and grab me some lunch before I head home.
I got my food, started my car and it wouldnt start. It was dead! So I asked this man that was parked beside me if he could give me a jump (since I dont know how) I got the jumper cables out of my trunk and he got the car started for me.
I handed him a $20 bill for doing that for me and he told me he would rather have my # instead. I told him I dont give out my # to random people and he told me "dont you think you owe me that at least?" being kind of cocky. I told him that I was thankful that he got my car started and I really had to go so would he please accept my gratitude of the $20. Oh but nooo! I said "Dude dont make me pull out my pepper spray because I wont hesitate if you dont leave me be" His words were "Man you cant do anything nice for anyone anymore" and used some profanity towards me and left. Asshole!:mad
His behavior was straight up wrong, no if's, and's, or but's about it.
 

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I'll bet there was absolutely no way he was getting her number because of the way she put it. "I don't give my number to strangers..." etc.

He put his best game on and tried flirting with her, but she blew him off. When you get blown off the charm dies off and the anger comes forward.

Thats why he turned into the asshole to end all assholes.

And if the dude was really cool, he'd have said somethin' funny like
Hey, I'm only stranger when ya get to know me, how about we meet here again tomorrow for lunch?

That way she could meet him if she wanted to and it would be in a public place with lots of onlookers.

Any guy who gets pissed coz a woman is cautious about givin' her number out ain't worth a diddly squat anyway, so she did the right thang.
 

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And if the dude was really cool, he'd have said somethin' funny like
Hey, I'm only stranger when ya get to know me, how about we meet here again tomorrow for lunch?

That way she could meet him if she wanted to and it would be in a public place with lots of onlookers.

Any guy who gets pissed coz a woman is cautious about givin' her number out ain't worth a diddly squat anyway, so she did the right thang.

Yeah I get that. lol I'm just saying that with as many times as I've been rejected I can understand where the guy is coming from on this, and why he did what he did. I would have handled things differently, but that's just because I'm more laid back and timid.

I don't get it though. What defines confidence from cockyness? He's cocky because he joked with her about something and then asked her number. To me that's confidence. Confidence is the ability to not feel like a waste after getting rejected.
 

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You should have given him the number of someone you don't like! :D
What an arse hole! I've helped out strangers in small ways before and been offered a bit of money for it but I won't even take that, I just think its very rude and defeats the whole point of just helping someone if it didn't cost me anything other than a few minutes.
 

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Yeah I get that. lol I'm just saying that with as many times as I've been rejected I can understand where the guy is coming from on this, and why he did what he did. I would have handled things differently, but that's just because I'm more laid back and timid.

I don't get it though. What defines confidence from cockyness? He's cocky because he joked with her about something and then asked her number. To me that's confidence. Confidence is the ability to not feel like a waste after getting rejected.
i was gonna ask that earlier man haha. I kinda answered myself i think. Its a thin line between the two. I think it depends on so many different things its not even debatable. I.E (what the guy looks like, where you are, are you sober, ect.)
 

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lmao i said ect. damnit. like it depends on the other persons mood, time of day, what you say, how you sound when you say it. so many factors
 

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100% correct
That should be in a rule book given to all guys

Ok. You women should all get together and write a rule book to mass produce and sell to us guys. You'll all be rich.

Guys rules are the following: We just want sex, pizza, beer and football (baseball too).

Womens rules would take me 20 years to write out, yet somehow I would never fully understand them.
 

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what i don't understand is why alot of women seem to go for the bad boys i mean i here it all the time you know the guys i mean the ones that only want the three f's and the nice guys are past up or dumped , i'd like to know whats up with that.:confused
 

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Whereas men are looking for more of the material pieces from women, women are wanting the emotional bits from men. Plain and simple. So a man merely has to be sweet and sentimental and romantic and complimentary (and remember our birthdays and anniversaries), and a woman will eagerly shower him with sex, pizza, beer and football-watching time.
it should be that easy.:D
 

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why is it that when men talk dirty to a girl its sexual harrasment. but when woman talk dirty to men its 3.50 a minute?
 

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haha dont worry bout it. My co-worker said that to me and i laughed my ass off so i thought it would fit in this thread
 

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Whereas men are looking for more of the material pieces from women, women are wanting the emotional bits from men. Plain and simple. So a man merely has to be sweet and sentimental and romantic and complimentary (and remember our birthdays and anniversaries), and a woman will eagerly shower him with sex, pizza, beer and football-watching time.

That's one hell of a nice over simplification of it.... the thing is it doesn't always work.
 
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