Bomb blast at Boston Marathon

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Joe the meek

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The blasts were rather small, considering, and the devices rather unsophisticated.

I don't know, I'd consider something unsophisticated when you're using chemicals under your kitchen sink. Then again, we don't have the explosive material laying around here like they do over in the sand box. The only real sophistication to an IED is the triggering device and how it's utilized. Watching the video's, although the death toll wasn't high (thank God or whoever you want), those booms looked pretty good considering what was used, and the casualty rate was what I wouldn't consider low. You don't need sophisticated to have a high body count if you have enough explosives packed in a car and someone willing to die.

I fugured if it was caused from someone from the sand box, they'd be laying claim to it the same day.

Since no one has laid claim, it could be a wacked out one man show, but he wasn't half bad (sad to say).
 
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Well good old CNN has Piers Morgan thinking it was AQ if I got the gist of flipping back and forth channels

Because more than one person was involved

Are you serious

I guess the morons forgot about Oklahoma and McVeigh and that event

Geeze this is getting to be a joke how the 24/7 stations that claim to be news stations are wasting their breath
 

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I don't think it was what we typically call a "terrorist group." The blasts were rather small, considering, and the devices rather unsophisticated. I think if this were what we typically think of as a terrorist organization the casualties would've been much higher, the blast much bigger, and the devastation even greater. I wouldn't be surprised if this turns out to be a white American man.
My Brit friends in another forum tell me that the IRA used pressure cookers for bombs. Maybe there are instructions online. Maybe somebody contracted the IRA for training. Maybe the IRA have heard there were a lot of protestant Irishmen in Boston.
 

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Now there's another explosion at a Texas fertilizer plant. That seems way too coincidental to me, but maybe I'm wrong. 2 dead so far.
 

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My Brit friends in another forum tell me that the IRA used pressure cookers for bombs. Maybe there are instructions online. Maybe somebody contracted the IRA for training. Maybe the IRA have heard there were a lot of protestant Irishmen in Boston.
and the IRA hated Maggie Thatcher ijs

pieces of a puzzle being put together

we need more surveillance cameras on the street
 

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fertilizer is explosive shit, don't read too much into this

You could read a lot into that, and it would actually be very true. Ammonia is a naturally occuring process in human/anmial waste, and fertilizer has been used for bomb making in wars for some time now. I believe it was also used in the OKC bombing.
 

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My Brit friends in another forum tell me that the IRA used pressure cookers for bombs. Maybe there are instructions online. Maybe somebody contracted the IRA for training. Maybe the IRA have heard there were a lot of protestant Irishmen in Boston.

It's not as cool showing something like a pressure cooker used as a explosive device in the movies and TV. It's always got to be some sophisticated triggering device where the hero has to figure out which wire he has to cut to disarm it.
 
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You could read a lot into that, and it would actually be very true. Ammonia is a naturally occuring process in human/anmial waste, and fertilizer has been used for bomb making in wars for some time now. I believe it was also used in the OKC bombing.
Yes it was used in the OKC bombing (ammonia nitrate), its been highly regulated since then, and would be hard to buy large amounts without raising red flags.

The Texas explosion may very well have been an innocent accident, but "what if"? What better way to cover up very large amounts being stolen before the explosion. :(
 

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Yes it was used in the OKC bombing (ammonia nitrate), its been highly regulated since then, and would be hard to buy large amounts without raising red flags.

The Texas explosion may very well have been an innocent accident, but "what if"? What better way to cover up very large amounts being stolen before the explosion. :(
cctv would yield the answers
 

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We listened to the radio traffic in class today. Some citizens that have listened are pretty critical of the dispatchers and the firefighters, but I think they did a great job. It's obvious from the sound quality that they have an outdated radio system. It sounds a lot like ours used to before the upgrade...I don't miss those days.

One thing that I haven't seen mentioned much is that in addition to fertilizer this plant ALSO stored grain which is ALSO a highly volatile substance. From the reports that are coming out, it seems to just be an unfortunate coincidence.
 

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whilst the ricin letter to obama might not be related to Boston, the guy who sent it is an Elvis impersonator from Memphis

i think that shows a huge link to a cover up
 

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I found this article very interesting, hope others may as well.

http://www.salon.com/2013/04/16/lets_hope_the_boston_marathon_bomber_is_a_white_american/

As we now move into the official Political Aftermath period of the Boston bombing — the period that will determine the long-term legislative fallout of the atrocity — the dynamics of privilege will undoubtedly influence the nation’s collective reaction to the attacks. That’s because privilege tends to determine: 1) which groups are — and are not — collectively denigrated or targeted for the unlawful actions of individuals; and 2) how big and politically game-changing the overall reaction ends up being.

This has been most obvious in the context of recent mass shootings. In those awful episodes, a religious or ethnic minority group lacking such privilege would likely be collectively slandered and/or targeted with surveillance or profiling (or worse) if some of its individuals comprised most of the mass shooters. However, white male privilege means white men are not collectively denigrated/targeted for those shootings — even though most come at the hands of white dudes.

Likewise, in the context of terrorist attacks, such privilege means white non-Islamic terrorists are typically portrayed not as representative of whole groups or ideologies, but as “lone wolf” threats to be dealt with as isolated law enforcement matters. Meanwhile, non-white or developing-world terrorism suspects are often reflexively portrayed as representative of larger conspiracies, ideologies and religions that must be dealt with as systemic threats — the kind potentially requiring everything from law enforcement action to military operations to civil liberties legislation to foreign policy shifts.

“White privilege is knowing that even if the bomber turns out to be white, no one will call for your group to be profiled as terrorists as a result, subjected to special screening or threatened with deportation,” writes author Tim Wise. “White privilege is knowing that if this bomber turns out to be white, the United States government will not bomb whatever corn field or mountain town or stale suburb from which said bomber came, just to ensure that others like him or her don’t get any ideas. And if he turns out to be a member of the Irish Republican Army we won’t bomb Dublin. And if he’s an Italian-American Catholic we won’t bomb the Vatican.”

Because of these undeniable and pervasive double standards, the specific identity of the Boston Marathon bomber (or bombers) is not some minor detail — it will almost certainly dictate what kind of governmental, political and societal response we see in the coming weeks. That means regardless of your particular party affiliation, if you care about everything from stopping war to reducing the defense budget to protecting civil liberties to passing immigration reform, you should hope the bomber was a white domestic terrorist. Why? Because only in that case will privilege work to prevent the Boston attack from potentially undermining progress on those other issues.
To know that’s true is to simply consider how America reacts to different kinds of terrorism.

Though FBI data show fewer terrorist plots involving Muslims than terrorist plots involving non-Muslims, America has mobilized a full-on war effort exclusively against the prospect of Islamic terrorism. Indeed, the moniker “War on Terrorism” has come to specifically mean “War on Islamic Terrorism,” involving everything from new laws like the Patriot Act, to anew torture regime, to new federal agencies like the Transportation Security Administration and Department of Homeland Security, to wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to mass surveillance of Muslim communities.

By contrast, even though America has seen a consistent barrage of attacks from domestic non-Islamic terrorists, the privilege and double standards baked into our national security ideologies means those attacks have resulted in no systemic action of the scope marshaled against foreign terrorists. In fact, it has been quite the opposite — according to Darryl Johnson, the senior domestic terrorism analyst at the Department of Homeland Security, the conservative movement backlash to merely reporting the rising threat of such domestic terrorism resulted in DHS seriously curtailing its initiatives against that particular threat. (Irony alert: When it comes specifically to fighting white non-Muslim domestic terrorists, the right seems to now support the very doctrine it criticized Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry for articulating — the doctrine that sees fighting terrorism as primarily “an intelligence-gathering, law-enforcement, public-diplomacy effort” and not something more systemic.)
Enter the Boston bombing. Coming at the very moment the U.S. government is planning towithdraw from Afghanistan, considering cuts to the Pentagon budget, discussing civil liberties principles and debating landmark immigration legislation, the attack could easily become the fulcrum of all of those contentious policy debates — that is, depending on the demographic profile of the assailant.

If recent history is any guide, if the bomber ends up being a white anti-government extremist, white privilege will likely mean the attack is portrayed as just an isolated incident — one that has no bearing on any larger policy debates. Put another way, white privilege will work to not only insulate whites from collective blame, but also to insulate the political debate from any fallout from the attack.
It will probably be much different if the bomber ends up being a Muslim and/or a foreigner from the developing world. As we know from our own history, when those kind of individuals break laws in such a high-profile way, America often cites them as both proof that entire demographic groups must be targeted, and that therefore a more systemic response is warranted. At that point, it’s easy to imagine conservatives citing Boston as a reason to block immigration reform defense spending cuts and the Afghan War withdrawal and to further expand surveillance and other encroachments on civil liberties.

If that sounds hard to believe, just look at yesterday’s comments by right-wing radio hostLaura Ingraham, whose talking points often become Republican Party doctrine. Though authorities haven’t even identified a suspect in the Boston attack, she (like other conservatives) seems to already assume the assailant is foreign, and is consequently citing the attack as rationale to slam the immigration reform bill.
The same Laura Ingraham, of course, was one of the leading voices criticizing the Department of Homeland Security for daring to even report on right-wing domestic terrorism. In that sense, she perfectly embodies the double standard that, more than anything, will determine the long-term political impact of the Boston bombing.


An interesting read...however its a fallacious argument.
Race and religion are not the same thing.
No one is targeting race...but rather a set of ideals established by religion.{As far as terrorism goes}
No one is targeting race and associating it with terrorism.......If that was the case we would not grant Visas based upon such.
Additionally there is no white male privileges...Radical Christian groups are labeled just that and are not exempt from such.
 
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That doesn't answer my question.
I asked if you are claiming the story was made up.
Fact is the story wasnt made up.
The bombings are real.
The saudis home was searched {although he did give permission}
The fact remains if authorities ask to search your home in relation to a bombing you are a suspect.

Your link runs to other links in relation to a picture...a picture which lessened the graphic impact of a wound to make the picture more friendly for sensitive audiences....has nothing to do with "making up a story and a non existent suspect"
 
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