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Taylor's death a grim reminder for us all

Jason Whitlock / FOXSports.com


There's a reason I call them the Black KKK. The pain, the fear and the destruction are all the same.Someone who loved Sean Taylor is crying right now. The life they knew has been destroyed, an 18-month-old baby lost her father, and, if you're a black man living in America, you've been reminded once again that your life is in constant jeopardy of violent death.
The Black KKK claimed another victim, a high-profile professional football player with a checkered past this time.

No, we don't know for certain the circumstances surrounding Taylor's death. I could very well be proven wrong for engaging in this sort of aggressive speculation. But it's no different than if you saw a fat man fall to the ground clutching his chest. You'd assume a heart attack, and you'd know, no matter the cause, the man needed to lose weight.

Well, when shots are fired and a black man hits the pavement, there's every statistical reason to believe another black man pulled the trigger. That's not some negative, unfair stereotype. It's a reality we've been living with, tolerating and rationalizing for far too long.

When the traditional, white KKK lynched, terrorized and intimidated black folks at a slower rate than its modern-day dark-skinned replacement, at least we had the good sense to be outraged and in no mood to contemplate rationalizations or be fooled by distractions.

Our new millennium strategy is to pray the Black KKK goes away or ignores us. How's that working?

About as well as the attempt to shift attention away from this uniquely African-American crisis by focusing on an "injustice" the white media allegedly perpetrated against Sean Taylor.

Within hours of his death, there was a story circulating that members of the black press were complaining that news outlets were disrespecting Taylor's victimhood by reporting on his troubled past
No disrespect to Taylor, but he controlled the way he would be remembered by the way he lived. His immature, undisciplined behavior with his employer, his run-ins with law enforcement, which included allegedly threatening a man with a loaded gun, and the fact a vehicle he owned was once sprayed with bullets are all pertinent details when you've been murdered.

Marcellus Wiley, a former NFL player, made the radio circuit Wednesday, singing the tune that athletes are targets. That was his explanation for the murders of Taylor and Broncos cornerback Darrent Williams and the armed robberies of NBA players Antoine Walker and Eddy Curry.
Really?

Let's cut through the bull(manure) and deal with reality. Black men are targets of black men. Period. Go check the coroner's office and talk with a police detective. These bullets aren't checking W-2s.
Rather than whine about white folks' insensitivity or reserve a special place of sorrow for rich athletes, we'd be better served mustering the kind of outrage and courage it took in the 1950s and 1960s to stop the white KKK from hanging black men from trees.

But we don't want to deal with ourselves. We take great joy in prescribing medicine to cure the hate in other people's hearts. Meanwhile, our self-hatred, on full display for the world to see, remains untreated, undiagnosed and unrepentant.

Our self-hatred has been set to music and reinforced by a pervasive culture that promotes a crab-in-barrel mentality.

You're damn straight I blame hip hop for playing a role in the genocide of American black men. When your leading causes of death and dysfunction are murder, ignorance and incarceration, there's no reason to give a free pass to a culture that celebrates murder, ignorance and incarceration.

Of course there are other catalysts, but until we recapture the minds of black youth, convince them that it's not OK to "super man dat ho" and end any and every dispute by "cocking on your bitch," nothing will change.
Does a Soulja Boy want an education?

HBO did a fascinating documentary on Little Rock Central High School, the Arkansas school that required the National Guard so that nine black kids could attend in the 1950s. Fifty years later, the school is one of the nation's best in terms of funding and educational opportunities. It's 60 percent black and located in a poor black community.

Watch the documentary and ask yourself why nine poor kids in the '50s risked their lives to get a good education and a thousand poor black kids today ignore the opportunity that is served to them on a platter.

Blame drugs, blame Ronald Reagan, blame George Bush, blame it on the rain or whatever. There's only one group of people who can change the rotten, anti-education, pro-violence culture our kids have adopted. We have to do it.
According to reports, Sean Taylor had difficulty breaking free from the unsavory characters he associated with during his youth.

The "keepin' it real" mantra of hip hop is in direct defiance to evolution. There's always someone ready to tell you you're selling out if you move away from the immature and dangerous activities you used to do, you're selling out if you speak proper English, embrace education, dress like a grown man, do anything mainstream.

The Black KKK is enforcing the same crippling standards as its parent organization. It wants to keep black men in their place — uneducated, outside the mainstream and six feet deep.

In all likelihood, the Black Klan and its mentality buried Sean Taylor, and any black man or boy reading this could be next.
In the UTube presidential debate there was a black father and son that put forth the issue of black male on black male crime as well and what is going to be done about it. It is a sad fact that I don't know the answers to as I don't understand all of the parameters fully. All I do know is that it truly saddens me. :(
 
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Crazy thing is that Black on Black violence has been a part of the ancestry of the African culture. Tribes killed and enslaved other tribes for decades before this country was even founded. It is an interesting topic that I as well have no real answers for. :humm:
 

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It doesn't matter what race they are. A crime's a crime. Just find the dude who did it and arrest him. End of story.
 

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Well, its a little deeper than that. I mean, of course find the person and arrest him. But I think the point of the post is, black on black crime is and has been at a steady incline. They are looking for a way to cure this "disease" or maybe lower that percentage. Least that's what I gathered from it.
 

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Ok, once again I might be expressing my ignorance here, but why does there have to be such an emphasis on Black on Black crime? There's no emphasis on White on White crime, or Asian on Asian crime, or even Arab on Arab crime. They all exist, so why is the Black on Black crime in the Forefront?

Thebest has a good point, crime is crime, murder is murder...don't bring race/color/creed into it unless you see a swatztica <sp> or Black Panther symbol around...Dude was killed in cold blood, period.
 

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Ok, once again I might be expressing my ignorance here, but why does there have to be such an emphasis on Black on Black crime? There's no emphasis on White on White crime, or Asian on Asian crime, or even Arab on Arab crime. They all exist, so why is the Black on Black crime in the Forefront?

Thebest has a good point, crime is crime, murder is murder...don't bring race/color/creed into it unless you see a swatztica <sp> or Black Panther symbol around...Dude was killed in cold blood, period.
I thought the same thing but didn't say it. I agree with you though. Posting this information just perpetuates a stereotype, imho.
 

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From reading the article, I came away with the feeling that the author is racist. Whether that's true or not I don't know, it's just the feel I got from his article.

I see the problem differently. I don't see it as black on black crime, I see it as a problem of poverty. If you were to look at the statistics of these black on black crimes more closely, I'm sure you would see a strong relationship to poverty. Is there a problem with black on black violence in affluent neighborhoods? I wouldn't think so. So does it ultimately boil down to the color of their skin or to how impoverished they are?
If you grow up in a poor neighborhood where you see crime and violence everyday, chances are, your black. Why is that? Now I'm sure there are plenty of white folks that live in areas like this too, but percentage wise it isn't even close. To answer why it is like this is another completely different topic, but I would say that this is the number one reason for black on black violence.

When the traditional, white KKK lynched, terrorized and intimidated black folks at a slower rate than its modern-day dark-skinned replacement, at least we had the good sense to be outraged and in no mood to contemplate rationalizations or be fooled by distractions.

How does the author of this piece not see the difference??? The KKK killed men, women and children because they were black. To have so much hate in your heart that you are able to hang a child, a child that is pleading for his life, kicking and screaming and watch the life drain from him and not even bat an eye... that's just sick. It's not comparable to taking a life in a fight or during a crime... which is extremely wrong... but it takes pure evil to lynch another person... it's way too personal.
 

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I thought the same thing but didn't say it. I agree with you though. Posting this information just perpetuates a stereotype, imho.

Not only that, but in a dark twisted way, it's reverse racism. We're giving preferential treatment to a group of people over the rest of the population. The preferential treatment being a public forum, presidential debates, and essentially making the candidates spill their guts on the issue. If they don't answer, they're bigots or just ignorant, if they answer anything other than "My goal is to irradicate Black on Black crime and that's why I'm prepared to add a position to my cabinet that will do nothing but work with local and state authorities to put a stop to these heinous crimes." they're dodging the issue.
 

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From reading the article, I came away with the feeling that the author is racist. Whether that's true or not I don't know, it's just the feel I got from his article.

I see the problem differently. I don't see it as black on black crime, I see it as a problem of poverty. If you were to look at the statistics of these black on black crimes more closely, I'm sure you would see a strong relationship to poverty. Is there a problem with black on black violence in affluent neighborhoods? I wouldn't think so. So does it ultimately boil down to the color of their skin or to how impoverished they are?
If you grow up in a poor neighborhood where you see crime and violence everyday, chances are, your black. Why is that? Now I'm sure there are plenty of white folks that live in areas like this too, but percentage wise it isn't even close. To answer why it is like this is another completely different topic, but I would say that this is the number one reason for black on black violence.



How does the author of this piece not see the difference??? The KKK killed men, women and children because they were black. To have so much hate in your heart that you are able to hang a child, a child that is pleading for his life, kicking and screaming and watch the life drain from him and not even bat an eye... that's just sick. It's not comparable to taking a life in a fight or during a crime... which is extremely wrong... but it takes pure evil to lynch another person... it's way too personal.

But Tim, If you get out of the big cities, up in the hills of WV and KY, there are folks up there that still don't have running water and electricity. I can just about guarantee you that they're not black.

But again, this is not about race or poverty. It's about morals, ethics, parents raising their children right and taking responsibility for their actions. People who claim they stole because they're poor, or un-educated or whatever are simply making excuses for not wanting to better themselves.

Worse case scenerio, when these folks turn 18, they can always join the service, get a job skill and the money for a college education. Plus, they'll get a sense of pride that can only come with serving your country and working as a team to achieve a common goal.
 

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But Tim, If you get out of the big cities, up in the hills of WV and KY, there are folks up there that still don't have running water and electricity. I can just about guarantee you that they're not black.

But again, this is not about race or poverty. It's about morals, ethics, parents raising their children right and taking responsibility for their actions. People who claim they stole because they're poor, or un-educated or whatever are simply making excuses for not wanting to better themselves.

Worse case scenerio, when these folks turn 18, they can always join the service, get a job skill and the money for a college education. Plus, they'll get a sense of pride that can only come with serving your country and working as a team to achieve a common goal.

I disagree... when I'm talking about poverty, I don't just mean being poor. Maybe I should have been a little clearer on that. I'm more talking about inner city poverty, where crime IS a way of life. Neighborhoods where the vast majority are ethnic and popping a "cap" in someones ass for a "rock" is acceptable. Neighborhoods where you MUST be tough or you would be eaten alive, and it's growing up where being tough is a way of survival that leads to violent crime.
 

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I disagree... when I'm talking about poverty, I don't just mean being poor. Maybe I should have been a little clearer on that. I'm more talking about inner city poverty, where crime IS a way of life. Neighborhoods where the vast majority are ethnic and popping a "cap" in someones ass for a "rock" is acceptable. Neighborhoods where you MUST be tough or you would be eaten alive, and it's growing up where being tough is a way of survival that leads to violent crime.

But it's also about being in your element: You put a city boy up in the woods, he's toast...and vice-versa. Monetary poverty may have been the ignition point, but a lack of caring and a lack of self-worth keeps it alive.
 

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From reading the article, I came away with the feeling that the author is racist. Whether that's true or not I don't know, it's just the feel I got from his article.
The author of the article is black.

I see the problem differently. I don't see it as black on black crime, I see it as a problem of poverty.
Poverty is a problem for sure and it is a vehicle for violence.

If you were to look at the statistics of these black on black crimes more closely, I'm sure you would see a strong relationship to poverty.
In white poverished neighborhoods or in hispanic poverished neighborhoods are there as much violent male on male crimes there as well? Or are their numbers much lower?

Is there a problem with black on black violence in affluent neighborhoods?
The NFL player was black and lived in an affluent neighborhood. The author is saying that the poor black man wants to keep the affluent black man down. I don't understand this though.

So does it ultimately boil down to the color of their skin or to how impoverished they are?
I don't know. But the author, who once again is black, is speaking his soul in my opinion on something that is really bothering him about his race. Since I am not black and have not had to walk a mile in a black man's shoes I don't truly get where he is coming from. But I have now heard approx 5 black men express these thoughts. (3 of them being friends of mine, 1 this article, and 1 being the father and son that asked the question of the would-be presidents)

If you grow up in a poor neighborhood where you see crime and violence everyday, chances are, your black. Why is that?
Not true. The poor areas of town tend to segregate themselves somewhat. In Phoenix/Metro area Arizona we have a poor hispanic part of town, a poor white part of town, and a poor black part of town. We also have parts of town that are well mixed, but some areas aren't well mixed.

I do agree what poverty is a big vehicle for violence though, no doubt. It just seems to me the author is expressing something more that I am just not grasping.

How does the author of this piece not see the difference??? The KKK killed men, women and children because they were black. To have so much hate in your heart that you are able to hang a child, a child that is pleading for his life, kicking and screaming and watch the life drain from him and not even bat an eye... that's just sick. It's not comparable to taking a life in a fight or during a crime... which is extremely wrong... but it takes pure evil to lynch another person... it's way too personal.
I think that the author is saying, in his opinion, that Taylor was shot purely because he was affluent and black on purpose by another black man. Is the author expressing the poor black man is jealous of the affluent black man so much so that he harbors hate in his heart and is racist against his own race?

I don't know.

The article sparked my interest though because I could not fully grasp the author's perspective.
 
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