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Friday, February 01, 2008

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WASHINGTON — U.S. Sen. Jim DeMint, R-S.C., says the City of Berkeley, Calif., no longer deserves federal money.
DeMint was angered after learning that the Berkeley City Council voted this week to tell the U.S. Marine Corps to remove its recruiting station from the city's downtown.
"This is a slap in the face to all brave service men and women and their families," DeMint said in a prepared statement. "The First Amendment gives the City of Berkeley the right to be idiotic, but from now on they should do it with their own money."
"If the city can’t show respect for the Marines that have fought, bled and died for their freedom, Berkeley should not be receiving special taxpayer-funded handouts," he added.
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In the meantime, a senior Marine official tells FOX News that the Marine office in Berkeley isn't going anywhere.

"We understand things are different there, but some people just don't get it. This is a part of the military machine that gives them the right to do what they do, but what they are doing is extreme," the official said.
DeMint said he will draft legislation to rescind any earmarks dedicated for the City of Berkeley in the recently passed appropriations bill — which his office tallied to value about $2.1 million. He said that any money taken back would be transferred to the Marines.
DeMint's office provided a preliminary list of items that would be subject to his proposal:
— $975,000 for the University of California at Berkeley, for the Matsui Center for Politics and Public Service, which may include establishing an endowment, and for cataloguing the papers of Congressman Robert Matsui.
— $750,000 for the Berkeley/Albana ferry service.
— $243,000 for the Chez Panisse Foundation, for a school lunch initiative to integrate lessons about wellness, sustainability and nutrition into the academic curriculum.
— $94,000 for a Berkeley public safety interoperability program.
— $87,000 for the Berkeley Unified School District, nutrition education program.
The Marine official, speaking with FOX News on Friday, said Marine Commandant Gen. James Conway scoffed at the news, but there are no plans for to protest the City Council's decisions. There are definitely no plans to move the recruiting station either.
"To actually put something into law that encourages the disruption of a federal office is ridiculous. They are not going to kick a federal office out of its rightful place there, and this is not going to discourage those young patriots who want to be Marines," the official said.
The Berkeley City Council this week voted to tell the Marines their downtown recruiting station is not welcome and "if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests," according to The Associated Press.
The council also voted to explore whether a city anti-discrimination law applies to the Marines, with a focus on the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy that prevents open homosexuality in the military.
The council also voted to give the antiwar group Code Pink a parking space in front of the recruiting office once a week for six months, as well as a protest permit.
The Marine recruiting office in Berkeley has been open for about one year, but has been the subject of recent protests by Code Pink members.
 
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You want to see a real case of disrespecting the men in uniform...

Retired U.S. Army Gen. Tommy Franks, who led the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq, was paid $100,000 to endorse a veterans charity that watchdog groups say is ripping off donors and wounded veterans by using only a small portion of the money raised for veterans services, according to testimony in Congress today.

They actually had to pay retired U.S. Army Gen. Tommy Franks to endorse a veterans charity... That's $100,000 less that go to the veterans who need it. Not only should he have done it for free, he should have coughed up some of his own money to the cause...
 

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You want to see a real case of disrespecting the men in uniform...



They actually had to pay retired U.S. Army Gen. Tommy Franks to endorse a veterans charity... That's $100,000 less that go to the veterans who need it. Not only should he have done it for free, he should have coughed up some of his own money to the cause...

The first 30 or so sites that came up when I did my google search for your quote turned up crazy lefty sites that I didn't bother following. When I found the entire article at Military.com, the report also said that he disassociated himself with the organization immediately after finding out they actually donated less than 85% of all contributions. The report also said that the company lied about their actual contributions, and told people it was between 92-100%.

Tommy Frank's endorsement allowed for the raising of millions of dollars for vets above what they could otherwise have accomplished.

Looks to me like if you read the story in context, General Franks is still a good guy.

Why leave this out of your article quote Tim?
 

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Supporting his own :dunno

That was called 30 some-odd years of service. I haven't done any homework on the guy, but he's obviously still involved in the military world, giving speaches and such.

Maybe our expectations are a little high for these guys when they get out. I for one hope to retire in peace when I'm done doing my part for king and country.
 

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I think you are missing the entire point I was making.

My quote came from ABC.com not some fucking lefty site...

Franks took money to endorse something that he should have been willing to endorse without pay. No matter how you slice it, there was going to be $100,000 dollars less going to the veterans. It doesn't matter if it came directly from the funds or was a payment from the parent company... Bottom line is that he made $100,000 on the backs of vets...
 

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I think you are missing the entire point I was making.

My quote came from ABC.com not some fucking lefty site...

Franks took money to endorse something that he should have been willing to endorse without pay. No matter how you slice it, there was going to be $100,000 dollars less going to the veterans. It doesn't matter if it came directly from the funds or was a payment from the parent company... Bottom line is that he made $100,000 on the backs of vets...

The ABC site was actually the first one I tried, but the link just took me to a title page with no story. :dunno:

We're just going to have different oppinions on this. I personally would have let them use my name for free, but I certainly don't think it should be any type of requirement to work for free. In my minds eye, I think Franks has probably done more for the troops and vets than the entire body of OTZ'er combined.

Maybe I'm jumping at shadows here, but to me it looks like the story about what happened makes him out to be the bad guy instead of the shifty charity.
 

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DeMint said he will draft legislation to rescind any earmarks dedicated for the City of Berkeley in the recently passed appropriations bill — which his office tallied to value about $2.1 million. He said that any money taken back would be transferred to the Marines.
Seems like a good idea. If they openly hate the military then why give those creeps any federal dollars?
 

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So if a city were to evict an ACLU chapter because the town was conservative and didn't like the ACLU, you wouldn't have a problem with that?
The ACLU doesn't use predatory methods to recruit people.

But, if the city wanted to wanted to, its their call.


"if recruiters choose to stay, they do so as uninvited and unwelcome guests"

That's not disrespectful?
Its certainly not disrespecting ALL marines everywhere.
 
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