Battlestar Galactica - one for the nerds

[sharpies]

Ok, so I was just watching an episode of Battlestar Galactica when the ships were returning to Caprica & two of the ships came out of the jump inside a mountain. What does everyone think would have happened to the ships & their occupants?

There are so many possibilities, do they try to displace their own mass & then come to a sudden stop, or do their atoms form in between the atoms of the mountain meaning that they never actually arrive alive? Someone got something better? Does anyone care?

Allan

 

[TheOriginalJames]

I have no idea what you mean. sorry.

 

[EmperorKupcake]

Man, I'm proud to say that I'm a nerd. But I'm not that big of a nerd

 

[BreakfastSurreal]

I LOVE BSG. Best Sci Fi show ever.

 

[lemon]

to answer your question, and no, i do not watch battlestar galactia, the part of the mountain the ship jumped into would have been displaced to where the ship jumped from.

basic physics/chemistry tells us that with the law of the conservation of mass.

left side of reaction's mass = right side of reaction's mass.

the jump is the reaction agent - the force/energy needed to produce the reaction.

or something along those lines...

 

[Homer]

Ok, so I was just watching an episode of Battlestar Galactica when the ships were returning to Caprica & two of the ships came out of the jump inside a mountain. What does everyone think would have happened to the ships & their occupants?

There are so many possibilities, do they try to displace their own mass & then come to a sudden stop, or do their atoms form in between the atoms of the mountain meaning that they never actually arrive alive? Someone got something better? Does anyone care?

Allan

no

 

[sharpies]

Warping space means shifting your ship from one place to another by folding the space ahead of you like folding a piece of paper, you still need to be travelling or else you will only be able to see the folded area of space.

So I don't think that what you are suggesting would be correct Lemon. Only your ship would be moving across the fold - nothing could move back... maybe???

Allan

 

[Butterfly]

I'd go for the option that they would form amoungst the atomss, and never actually arrive alive.

I can't recall... did they show what happened, like an explosion or something?

 

[lemon]

Warping space means shifting your ship from one place to another by folding the space ahead of you like folding a piece of paper, you still need to be travelling or else you will only be able to see the folded area of space.

So I don't think that what you are suggesting would be correct Lemon. Only your ship would be moving across the fold - nothing could move back... maybe???

Allan

the ship would be moving across the fold, but yet, in order to accomodate the ship, whatever is on the otherside of the fold needs to go across the fold to where the ship was, in order to preserve the balance.

 

[sharpies]

There was no explosion, they just showed sad faces (Starbuck) as they realised that one of their ships had jumped into the mountain. It just got me thinking about what became of them - one image was the ship sitting inside the mountain with the crew alive & waiting for their air to run out, another was them mashed all over the windscreen as the ship stopped & they kept on going (don't know if they have inertial dampeners), then there was the image of the atoms just appearing in between the atoms of the mountain.

Lemon, I've been thinking about your answer & it seems to me that in normal physics when something moves, something must take it's place - like when a bomb goes off all the air is pushed out, away from the explosion & then it is all sucked back in. This is most notable in nuclear blasts but always happens.

I just wonder that when the ship moves over the fold & it closes, how does something move back across the fold, I suspect that the filler would need to come from the side of the fold that the ship left.

This is much trickier than I thought because you have raised a very interesting little physics question about folded space travel that needs an answer.

Allan

 

[lemon]

There was no explosion, they just showed sad faces as they realised that they jumped into the mountain.

Lemon, I've been thinking about your answer & it seems to me that in normal physics when something moves, something must take it's place - like when a bomb goes off all the air is pushed out, away from the explosion & then it is all sucked back in. This is most notable in nuclear blasts but always happens.

I just wonder that when the ship moves over the fold & it closes, how does something move back across the fold, I suspect that the filler would need to come from the side of the fold that the ship left.

This is much trickier than I thought because you have raised a very interesting little physics question about folded space travel that needs an answer.

Allan

heh, it happens as the ship moves to take the mountains space.. as the front of the ship goes through the warp "gate" the mountains space that part of the ship would take up happens to move through the portal to where the ship was. and since it takes time to achieve such speed, it happens at the same time, so it appears to be instant, yet, it actually is a small transfer.

simple physics ftw!

 

[sharpies]

So Lemon, you would think that they landed inside the mountain & depending on Inertial Dampeners are waiting to suffocate or are mashed on the windscreen.

Allan

 

[lemon]

So Lemon, you would think that they landed inside the mountain & depending on Inertial Dampeners are waiting to suffocate or are mashed on the windscreen.

Allan

they are waiting to suffocate, should there not be any air passages in the mountain..