Avatar and Religion

[Codrus]

Dana, why would you say you agreed with yourself? Strange

sometimes when you talk to yourself you realize its the best conversation you have had all day

 

[Minor Axis]

I use Pagan as I wouldn't classify myself as a Wiccan. These days "Pagan" is an umbrella term that all the nature-based religions use as a generality. Just as there are many sects of Christianity that call themselves Christians yet don't believe exactly the same.

As it says above "Pagan" was used to classify Rural people. The old 'religion'. More in tune with the earth and the seasons & cycles and the Gods & Goddesses of old.

Or, you could jump from Europe and look at our Native Americans. Once again, much more in tune w/the earth and nature and the respect for both that that entails.

Again, a broad term to encompass the nature-based religions.

In my little pea-brain at least I know there is someone out there who could explain it much better than I

How do you feel about Pantheism as a description? I like the idea. The only problem I'd have with it as with any religion is the assumption that there is divine consciousness listening to you and your problems- that is unknown. If you are experiencing a good life (whatever your definition is), it's pretty easy to believe someone on the divine level is looking out for you. However, would you still feel that way if your life was crap? If you believe life is about dealing with challenges, maybe.

There could be a supreme force, but is it intelligent, and if it is, is it something that personally relates to the human race? Along with that discussion is the concept that the big picture is so big, do humans rank high enough to register on the divine worry meter? If there is a divine energy system, I imagine humans are in the system. The question becomes how much micro-management of our lives is involved?

 

[Goat Whisperer]

Kamekaze's were not religious so they're a bad example, but your point is valid about religious zealots. I think maybe you carry it too far. We have religious zealots today, but the world wars were not religious wars; they were nationalist/racist. Our civil war wasn't religious, but it was the bloodiest war in our history,

Other than the Crusades, most European wars were wars of conquest, fighting for King and country. No, the more I think about it, the less I see religion's hand in the major wars of history. Religion doesn't make zealots, it attracts them. You can be sure that a person with that kind of personality would find a target for his zeal if religion didn't exist. John Hinckley did.

It was racism--against a religion. If there as no religion there would have been a lot less tension towards jews, because they wouldn't have existed and been misplaced to ruin the European countries economies in the first place.

How can you genocide a religion that doesn't exist? I'm not so sure WWII would have even happened without religion.

 

[Accountable]

It was racism--against a religion. If there as no religion there would have been a lot less tension towards jews, because they wouldn't have existed and been misplaced to ruin the European countries economies in the first place.

How can you genocide a religion that doesn't exist? I'm not so sure WWII would have even happened without religion.

The Jews are an ethnic group as much as a religion. It wasn't their prayers that made them a target. But I can tell there's no convincing you right now so I'll stop..

 

[Minor Axis]

It was racism--against a religion. If there as no religion there would have been a lot less tension towards jews, because they wouldn't have existed and been misplaced to ruin the European countries economies in the first place.

How can you genocide a religion that doesn't exist? I'm not so sure WWII would have even happened without religion.

That's a big maybe. Religion is not the only way to categorize people.

 

[BornReady]

I can see why it didn't win. An Anti-War-ProPagan movie.... Perish the thought.... I thought it kicked Hurt Locker's ass....

A sci fi movie has never won best picture as far as I know. I guess the motion picture academy and maybe people in general don't take sci fi too seriously. I'm with you though. I liked Avatar better than Hurt Locker.

 

[Minor Axis]

A sci fi movie has never won best picture as far as I know. I guess the motion picture academy and maybe people in general don't take sci fi too seriously. I'm with you though. I liked Avatar better than Hurt Locker.

One movie is based on a grim human reality, the other on sci-fi escapism. Apparently "Academy members" thought Hurt locker had more humanitarian value. I have yet to see Hurt Locker, but it's on my list.

 

[BornReady]

I'd agree with that. If you haven't seen Hurt Locker I recommend it. I also recommend Avatar, if for nothing else, the scenery on Pandora is beautiful and the graphics are very well done.

Overall, I do think it's cool that an $11 million dollar film beat out a $270 million dollar film.

 

[Peter Parka]

It was racism--against a religion. If there as no religion there would have been a lot less tension towards jews, because they wouldn't have existed and been misplaced to ruin the European countries economies in the first place.

How can you genocide a religion that doesn't exist? I'm not so sure WWII would have even happened without religion.

Sorry, your post is rather baffling. Can you please explain to me the religious element of the invasion of Poland because as hard as I think about it, I'm fucked if I can find it!:willy_nilly: