Are Western Churches and Governments promoting hate?

[Carn]

Marriage, spousal benefits and whatever the so called straights have in rights. Equality.

Regards
DL

Actually more and more countries allow homosexual marriage/partnership or whatever you want to call it, along with it come spousal benefits. I don't see any reason for this trend to change, in the near time their going to have their so desired rights in this matter.
Plus, referring to the topics title I wouldn't say governments promote hate, rather they did not really concern themselves with homosexuals because they are I believe a rather small minority and can't really make a difference in the elections. So from their point of view, why should they ? ; ) Because it all comes down to how wins, not to make the world a better place.

Btw. Isn't the expression "gay" considered offensive in your countries ? Because here in Poland it is. Just asking out of curiosity ; )

 

[mazHur]

But what you quoted says yes because it believes in descriminating against people for a biological thing they have no control over. Your quotes have proved the OP right.

I presume you have missed out some points in the stuff posted.

Let's forget about the controversial Muslims, Christians and Jews for a while, what do you say about the
Buddhists, the Shinto's?? They don't interfere in anybody's religion therefor no one bothers them...neither do they!

 

[mazHur]

I know............but some people on here think he is funny coming up with videos like that

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[Minor Axis]

Haha!! If gays weren't seeking 'sympathy' of the straights all this hue and cry won't be there!

Gays are already classified as Third Gender but, it's said, since God did not depict any rights for them we are nobody to take them their equals. I don't know whether it is right or wrong but humans are as humans do does
boggle my mind!

Holy books are flawed as they have been written by man and are by no means the final standard. Humans set the standard and that standard changes over time. And gays are not seeking sympathy, just equal rights before the law.

 

[Tuffdisc]

Holy books are flawed as they have been written by man and are by no means the final standard. Humans set the standard and that standard changes over time. And gays are not seeking sympathy, just equal rights before the law.

What makes scientists theory the final standards? After all, they only speculate as to what is right and wrong, not one scientist can be right, just because it seems 'right' doesn't mean to say it is

 

[Greatest I am]

Real Christians Say ‘No’ to Bullying and Homosexual Behavior





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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x_BV2yUr-M

Care to educate yourself on the reality of our schools.

Who is doing the bullying, Gays or straights?

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

[FONT=trebuchet ms, arial, helvetica][FONT=Trebuchet MS, Arial, Helvetica]Islam and homosexuality: All viewpoints[/FONT][/FONT]





[FONT=trebuchet ms, arial, helvetica]Speaking generally, religious beliefs within the world's major faith groups are based on four main foundations: revelation in the form of a holy text; religious tradition; logic & reason; and personal experience. [/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms, arial, helvetica]More liberal movements within these religions often tend to stress logic, reason, and personal experience. This includes scientific findings. It is only since about 1950 that homosexuality has been seriously studied by human sexuality researchers. Liberal individuals and groups within Christianity, Islam and other religions have been quick to incorporate scientific findings within their ethical and religious beliefs. They generally regard homosexuality as a sexual orientation which is ethically neutral, fixed, unchosen, and is normal and natural for a minority of adults.[/FONT]

[FONT=trebuchet ms, arial, helvetica]More conservative movements tend to stress revelation and tradition. Their beliefs are anchored to the past. Their beliefs are much less amenable to rapid change. They generally regard homosexuality as a deviate and disordered behavior, which is immoral, changeable, chosen, abnormal and unnatural.[/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms, arial, helvetica]A person's beliefs about homosexuality tend to be determined less by their specific religion, and more by where their beliefs lie on the liberal-conservative divide. For this reason, conservative Christians and Muslims tend to have similar beliefs about the nature and origin(s) of homosexuality, as well as God's attitude towards homosexuals. [/FONT]
[FONT=trebuchet ms, arial, helvetica]According to the International Lesbian and Gay Association ILGA there are at least seven countries today which still retain capital punishment for homosexuality. All are predominately Muslim countries. They are: Afghanistan, Iran, Mauritania, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Sudan, and Yemen. The situation with regard to the United Arab Emirates (UAE) is unclear.[/FONT]

Afghanistan?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/dancingboys/

mazHur

You believe that God creates us do you not?

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7x_BV2yUr-M

Care to educate yourself on the reality of our schools.

Who is doing the bullying, Gays or straights?

Regards
DL

You obviously don't seem to realise anything

 

[Greatest I am]

Yes and No.
Yes, If you interfere in other people's religion it promotes hate.
No, if you kept your religion to yourself .

That being the case, would you interfere here and promote hate?

African witches and Jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlRG9gXriVI&feature=related

Jesus Camp 1of 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOqGhcwwE1s

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

That being the case, would you interfere here and promote hate?

African witches and Jesus
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MlRG9gXriVI&feature=related

Jesus Camp 1of 9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOqGhcwwE1s

Regards
DL

Being judgemental as usual, saying that all Christians are like people in that video. And since you are not perfect yourself, how can you judge the imperfections of others?

 

[Greatest I am]

Being judgemental as usual, saying that all Christians are like people in that video. And since you are not perfect yourself, how can you judge the imperfections of others?

Are you perfect enough to judge me imperfect and where have I shown any imperfections?

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

You obviously don't seem to realise anything

Criticism without correction show one who is too stupid to correct or too fearful to show his lack of intelligence and must hide it behind useless one liners.

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

Are you perfect enough to judge me imperfect and where have I shown any imperfections?

Regards
DL

You insult and are judgemental on every Christians that post here

Criticism without correction show one who is too stupid to correct or too fearful to show his lack of intelligence and must hide it behind useless one liners.

Regards
DL

Wow, big words don't mean nothing :thumbup

 

[Greatest I am]

But what you quoted says yes because it believes in descriminating against people for a biological thing they have no control over. Your quotes have proved the OP right.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YAcoDkj_dI

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

You insult and are judgemental on every Christians that post here

Sure but I do it perfectly.

Jealousy is unbecoming. Stop it.

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

Sure but I do it perfectly.

Jealousy is unbecoming. Stop it.

Regards
DL

I think you like the sound of your own rubbish, I wish you would stop being negative to religion you understand, and coming up with drivel like you do

 

[Greatest I am]

I think you like the sound of your own rubbish, I wish you would stop being negative to religion you understand, and coming up with drivel like you do

Then it might grow instead of continuing to shrink.

For evil to grow, all good people need do is nothing.

You and religions like to oppress and do not like to see reciprocity.
Fairness is a bitch.

Stop crying and grow up.

Regards
DL

 

[Tuffdisc]

Then it might grow instead of continuing to shrink.

For evil to grow, all good people need do is nothing.

You and religions like to oppress and do not like to see reciprocity.
Fairness is a bitch.

Stop crying and grow up.

Regards
DL

Sorry, I don't oppress people, and I think people like you need to see reality as things are, don't go crying to your mommy when you are sussed out as being negative and you can't prove a thing

God doesn't need to count statistics in order to be proven right, if people want to believe it is up to them not you or me

 

[mazHur]

Afghanistan?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/dancingboys/mazHur

You believe that God creates us do you not?

Regards
DL

sorry I am not inclined to waste my time (and energy) in watching bullshit scenes from the internet...most of which is real propaganda and satanism. Let us have your own opinion, cogent and clear, rather than tell us fairy tales!

Yes, as a Muslim i believe in God having created everything!So?

 

[mazHur]

Afghanistan?

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/dancingboys/

Regards
DL

Maybe , you better ought to know since yyou had posted the link.

Everybody knows Afghanistan is a war-ridden country without any Sharia law's to stop anyone from doing
what he wants. Try this in Saudia and be ready to face the music, yet nowhere gay marriage is allowed in a Muslim country but homosexuality is in that it is merely a covert abuse of law there... nothing to boast about