Are Western Churches and Governments promoting hate?

[Greatest I am]

Are Western Churches and Governments promoting hate?

Anti-Semitism is a hate crime. Should anti-Gay be?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMw2Zg_BVzw&feature=related

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/08/minnesota.catholic.gay.marriage/index.html?eref=rss_latest&utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+rss%2Fcnn_latest+%28RSS%3A+Most+Recent%29

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ra_fAYl4Th4

Anti-Semitism is now considered a hate crime.
We recognized that to discriminate or denigrate Jews, a sub group of our society, without just cause, as just plain wrong.
Yet some Western Religions, notably Christian, Catholic and Muslims, as well as some state governments have laws and dogma that promote the denigration and discrimination of Gays, without just cause.
They use this dogma and force of law to deny Gays the rights that the rest of us all enjoy as full participants in our various communities. Canada is leading the way in this and I offer them kudos for that and wonder what the other Western nations are waiting for to take the next step to a more moral position.
Should governments treat religious intolerance in the same way as they handle Jewish anti-Semitism?
Should anti-Gay states be chastised by the Federal Government and urged/forced to comply to the new reality the same way that they were in the days of segregation?
Should the Gay movement start to target Churches and governments the way Churches and governments target them? I appreciate that Gays have better manners generally speaking than theists but when does enough become enough.

In other words, should Western governments start to clean up their act before urging Eastern countries to clean up theirs?

In other words, should Western governments start to clean up their act before urging Eastern countries to clean up theirs?

Should gag orders or worse be brought against Churches and their hierarchies such as the two examples shown above?

Regards
DL

 

[GoldDust Woman]

I'm not so sure it's called "hate". Division, for sure... but, that's been going on since the inception.

 

[skyblue]

yes...all governments and religions promote hate

 

[Greatest I am]

I'm not so sure it's called "hate". Division, for sure... but, that's been going on since the inception.

Well, those signs that you see in the link say hate and they are from a church.

Regards
DL

 

[mazHur]

Blue, you seem to be obsessed by the gay and jews while they never came to you complaining. Simple as it is the Jewish problem is due to clash between Israel and the Palestines on the issue of illegal occupation of their land and religious places. Resolve that dispute and peace will automatically return to this world. Else where and on the whole Jews are not facing problem anywhere else....

Public opinion is against gays.... especially gay marriages. As you know they are regarded as the Third Gender.....and there is big controversy as to include these 'irregulars' in the 'regular stream''....
I have all my sympathy for those who are born as 'gays' on account of congenital defects but I vote against those who particularly opt for it due to whatever reason.
As some gays on this forum get offended by my views and to avoid getting ''penalized'' for my 'inadvertent slips'' in the matter, I would refrain from commenting specifically about them.....

It is not the govts or the religions which spread ''hate'' but it is the adamant and controversial socio-societal thinking which causes trouble!

 

[mazHur]

King James Version, 1611:

In the beginning God created the Heauen, and the Earth.
And the earth was without forme, and voyd, and darkenesse was vpon the face of the deepe: and the Spirit of God mooued vpon the face of the waters.
And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
​

 

[skyblue]

Blue, you seem to be obsessed by the gay and jews while they never came to you complaining. Simple as it is the Jewish problem is due to clash between Israel and the Palestines on the issue of illegal occupation of their land and religious places. Resolve that dispute and peace will automatically return to this world. Else where and on the whole Jews are not facing problem anywhere else....

Public opinion is against gays.... especially gay marriages. As you know they are regarded as the Third Gender.....and there is big controversy as to include these 'irregulars' in the 'regular stream''....
I have all my sympathy for those who are born as 'gays' on account of congenital defects but I vote against those who particularly opt for it due to whatever reason.
As some gays on this forum get offended by my views and to avoid getting ''penalized'' for my 'inadvertent slips'' in the matter, I would refrain from commenting specifically about them.....

It is not the govts or the religions which spread ''hate'' but it is the adamant and controversial socio-societal thinking which causes trouble!

i never mentioned jews or gays:willy_nilly:

 

[mazHur]

I thought your question aimed at them.....atleast between the lines if not directly.

 

[skyblue]

I thought your question aimed at them.....atleast between the lines if not directly.

i didn't start the thread:24:

 

[mazHur]

i didn't start the thread:24:

sorry, I noted this now. let the OP enjoy reading my comments

 

[Greatest I am]

sorry, I noted this now. let the OP enjoy reading my comments

Gays have no need or want of your sympathy and would, rightly so, throw it back in your face.

They only seek that those that would deny them the rights due to them as citizens to stop discriminating and denigrating them without just cause.

Regards
DL

 

[mazHur]

Gays have no need or want of your sympathy and would, rightly so, throw it back in your face.

They only seek that those that would deny them the rights due to them as citizens to stop discriminating and denigrating them without just cause.

Regards
DL

Haha!! If gays weren't seeking 'sympathy' of the straights all this hue and cry won't be there!

Gays are already classified as Third Gender but, it's said, since God did not depict any rights for them we are nobody to take them their equals. I don't know whether it is right or wrong but humans are as humans do does
boggle my mind!

 

[Greatest I am]

Haha!! If gays weren't seeking 'sympathy' of the straights all this hue and cry won't be there!

Gays are already classified as Third Gender but, it's said, since God did not depict any rights for them we are nobody to take them their equals. I don't know whether it is right or wrong but humans are as humans do does
boggle my mind!

How can an imaginary God depict any rights for anyone?

All that is written has been written by homophobic men for reasons of social manipulation and control.
They are what you follow.

Regards
DL

 

[mazHur]

How can an imaginary God depict any rights for anyone?

All that is written has been written by homophobic men for reasons of social manipulation and control.
They are what you follow.

Regards
DL

Now that is overstepping the norms of civility by you calling me names. I am not homophobic nor what like those who follow. Mine is just a point of view...nothing less nothing more. I may not be correct but this doesn't give you the blanket to fix bad things on me!! Intolerance, that is.

 

[mazHur]

How can an imaginary God depict any rights for anyone?

Regards
DL

Einstein also figured out his famous equation without physically ''seeing''the quantity which completed it.
God is not a cheap decoration piece to be seen by those who don't believe in Him!

 

[Carn]

There are idiots in every community so you'll always find priests that promote hate against... whoever.
Nevertheless it should fade with time. Of course it also depends on what the homosexual communities do, because right now I really don't think they're doing much to get on peacefully with the rest of the society.

 

[Greatest I am]

Einstein also figured out his famous equation without physically ''seeing''the quantity which completed it.
God is not a cheap decoration piece to be seen by those who don't believe in Him!

You have seen him?
When, where?

Regards
DL

 

[Greatest I am]

There are idiots in every community so you'll always find priests that promote hate against... whoever.
Nevertheless it should fade with time. Of course it also depends on what the homosexual communities do, because right now I really don't think they're doing much to get on peacefully with the rest of the society.

Society is who are doing the attacking of their rights. They just want equality and an end to institutionalized discrimination and denigration without just cause.

Regards
DL

 

[Carn]

Society is who are doing the attacking of their rights. They just want equality and an end to institutionalized discrimination and denigration without just cause.

Regards
DL

Well usually they act like they are looking for pity than something else. I know I'm generalising but in my country I never heard of an action started by homosexuals which was supposed to gain them any kind of equality. You know, as I see it they have equal rights and only thing they do is band up with posters make something called "March of Tolerance" and block the whole city transport wise and nobody really knows what the hell do they want. So since you know so much about what homosexuals desire maybe you could please tell me on which field they feel they are not treated equally ?

 

[Peter Parka]

Cant say I've ever heard of a load of gays kicking off over here!