Appellate Court Upholds Texas Abortion Law

[Accountable]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/07/us-texas-abortion-idUSTRE81605220120207

The law, enacted in 2011, requires abortion providers to perform an ultrasound on pregnant women, show and describe the image to them, and play sounds of the fetal heartbeat. Though women can decline to view images or hear the heartbeat, they must listen to a description of the exam.

Even though I think humans should be recognized legally as humans upon conception, I can't support this law. If there was evidence of a need, such as women suing because of lack of knowledge, avoidable complications the doctor did not inform the mother of, or something like that, then okay. But this is clearly a Machiavellian attempt to force a kind of psychological warfare on abortion.

What say you?

 

[porterjack]

I agree this law seems to me to be unfair, forcing Drs to actually talk to their patients is cruel

 

[HK]

Good god. So emotional blackmail is okay now, is it?


Some people.

 

[porterjack]

What if a pro choice Dr "forgot" to have this discsussion they could probably be disciplined even though the patient did not want to hear it

 

[Accountable]

I agree this law seems to me to be unfair, forcing Drs to actually talk to their patients is cruel

You imply that doctors will not talk to their patients without the threat of imprisonment.

 

[porterjack]

You imply that doctors will not talk to their patients without the threat of imprisonment.

I imply that in many cases Drs dont talk directly to patients, they often talk down to them, often leave it up to an intern to "explain" things, still dont let my own bitterness cloud your own perception

 

[Peter Parka]

I'm waiting for someone to say it violates the constitution, thats what happens in 99% of the threads in this section.:24:

 

[CityGirl]

Did you read where VA State Rep Janett Howell attached an amendment to the state abortion bill that would require men to have rectal exams and cardiac stress tests prior to being prescribed meds for erectile dysfunction? LOL http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...nd-bill-virginia-anti-abortion_n_1242627.html

 

[Minor Axis]

Did you read where VA State Rep Janett Howell attached an amendment to the state abortion bill that would require men to have rectal exams and cardiac stress tests prior to being prescribed meds for erectile dysfunction? LOL http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...nd-bill-virginia-anti-abortion_n_1242627.html

IMO, it's not a good precedent for representatives to put up laws to get even.

To protest a bill that would require women to undergo an ultrasound before having an abortion, Virginia State Sen. Janet Howell (D-Fairfax) on Monday attached an amendment that would require men to have a rectal exam and a cardiac stress test before obtaining a prescription for erectile dysfunction medication.
"We need some gender equity here," she told HuffPost. "The Virginia senate is about to pass a bill that will require a woman to have totally unnecessary medical procedure at their cost and inconvenience. If we're going to do that to women, why not do that to men?"

 

[Dana]

Yes lets guilt women who are not ready/cannot simply keep the child/or have history of illness in the family into bringing an unwanted child into an already overpopulated world. Thank you America. Your overzealous zealot is showing...

 

[Panacea]

Yes lets guilt women who are not ready/cannot simply keep the child/or have history of illness in the family into bringing an unwanted child into an already overpopulated world. Thank you America. Your overzealous zealot is showing...

Frankly, this is how I feel. :clap
Certainly there are women who use abortion as birth control, but I'm not willing to sit here and say I think this sort of blackmail is ok just because of those types. Eh, it's all ugly.

 

[hart]

This law is ridiculous and I hope it get taken to the Supreme Court and overturned.

 

[Accountable]

I'm waiting for someone to say it violates the constitution, thats what happens in 99% of the threads in this section.:24:

Yeh, fuck the rule of law, right?

This is state statute, not federal. There's a difference, regardless of what Progressives would have you believe.

 

[BornReady]

This is government harassment imo. Texans who don't oppose this don't deserve the freedom their forefathers fought for.

 

[Accountable]

This is government harassment imo. Texans who don't oppose this don't deserve the freedom their forefathers fought for.

I don't see any way around that conclusion.

 

[Mercury]

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/02/07/us-texas-abortion-idUSTRE81605220120207


But this is clearly a Machiavellian attempt to force a kind of psychological warfare on abortion.

Sounds like it. I can't see any logical reason behind it ... sounds like a last resort emotional plea.