AMERICA: NO 1 WAR MONGER.....

[The Man]

Conversing with mazHur has changed much of my outlook on his culture.
The more points he denies, the more I research to see what the facts are.

Excuse me for bringing this up because we've beaten it to death in the past, but what we are seeing in Pakistan is a good reason for us to reject any attempts to introduce legalized torture into our society. The worst in people becomes the accepted standard as we've seen mazHur argue for acceptance. Eventually, without change, such a society/culture backslides into a barbaric wasteland devoid of morality and ethics.

I knew it was a hell hole..but am finding out things I did not know as well..hardly a culture to be proud of for sure.
I have to respect him for sticking up for his culture...but at the same time am disappointed for him not condemning it.
It appears as if torture, baby eating, honor killing,honor fucking dead women, bad food and such is just accepted there ...they have a long ways to go..I am not sure it is even possible to change as the culture is embedded in heavily.
These people have nukes while the sword is still swung freely..not good.

 

[The Man]

Are you serious?

Even George Bush looks good compared to the Peanut Boy

Carter was a major failure and is a moron

He just can not shut up his useless pie hole.

I don't know of any president in the last hundred years that was so shitty at the job

He needs to just shut the fuck up and go back to building houses for the poor. That is the only thing he has done worth a damn other than to get Egypt and Israel to make peace.

Maz was desperate using carter as an effort to make a point in the thread.

 

[mazHur]

mazHur.......there really isn't anything you can post that rebuts the facts about your culture that have been exposed recently.
Thinking your denials have meaning in a debate setting is your biggest mistake.
Thinking I care what you post about me is your second mistake.

Your opinions and claims are in contradiction of reality.

Yours too are as bad as any. You talk tall of your culture and handpick oddities in my culture to go wanking in the bazaar. That isn't fair. I am not here to change your beliefs and fixed notions....stones do not evolve into living creatures , they never have.

I have reason to concluede that you have run out of 'substance' and have nothing else to pick at..... hence I am not wrong if I declared you a loser!!

 

[Stone]

With an economically indebted country you hardly have any future....
just keep day dreaming and keep your Islamophobias alive,

See what I mean.
You are so upset, you' go off topic to avoid facing reality.
I know the high and low points of my society and argue to correct the wrongs.
All the while, you demand we of the west accept your inhumanity because it's been embraced and built into acceptance by your citizenry.

It is you daydreaming of yesterday's glories while denying your own social predicaments.
You deny protection is given to terrorists, you deny the beating and killing of women, you deny honor killing and pass off cultural dysfunction as individual cases and demand we of the west understand and accept those practices as justice.

There wouldn't even be any discussion of your culture if you hadn't brought it up and tried to rationalize it.

Do you really think those types of inhumanity can be rationalized ?

 

[Stone]

I knew it was a hell hole..but am finding out things I did not know as well..hardly a culture to be proud of for sure.
I have to respect him for sticking up for his culture...but at the same time am disappointed for him not condemning it.
It appears as if torture, baby eating, honor killing,honor fucking dead women, bad food and such is just accepted there ...they have a long ways to go..I am not sure it is even possible to change as the culture is embedded in heavily.
These people have nukes while the sword is still swung freely..not good.

I have to respect him for sticking up for his culture.

I can't.
If he advocated change and made an argument for change, yes, indeed. But he has demanded we accept the dark side of his culture as justice.

 

[Stone]

Feel happy to read this...don't fluster if I show you both sides of the picture/

How would America or Canada be in the following situation??
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Looks like a diversionary tactic to me

 

[mazHur]

I knew it was a hell hole..but am finding out things I did not know as well..hardly a culture to be proud of for sure.
I have to respect him for sticking up for his culture...but at the same time am disappointed for him not condemning it.
It appears as if torture, baby eating, honor killing,honor fucking dead women, bad food and such is just accepted there ...they have a long ways to go..I am not sure it is even possible to change as the culture is embedded in heavily.
These people have nukes while the sword is still swung freely..not good.

You are quite right. Our culture is one of the most ancient cultures of the world, the Indus and Ghandara civilisations. Ever heard of them? No? Then google and find out.

All the abuses and misuses you mention are criminal acts to be condemned ...
But generalizing these acts to malign the entire culture is patently wrong, absurd and uncalled for...
Amazing things also happen in the US and elsewhere but IT IS YOUR RULE OF LAW WHICH KEEPS YOU FOLKS STRAIGHT. In fact America and Canada do not have any culture of their own...On the contrary we HAVE a culure of our own but lack of rule of law is the stumbling block.

Our people are doing very well in your countries.....but being a Muslim they will never assimilate in your culture......never. It's not possible because of religious bindings on them as well as their home culture.

Tell your women folk no t to go near them .....they love women and their love will make them forget their own culture or religion, if any.

Doesn't it amaze yo u that a supposedly bad culture like ours would be producing nukes and other armory?? What makes you envy that? Iran is coming up next with its nukes. More will follow suit. Why do you think only you have the exclusive right on nukes? You bombed Japan, don't you feel ashamed of it?
Since WWII you had kept several nations as your 'vassals' and have been the biggest trouble maker in the world thereafter...........Ever thought why people hate you??

 

[mazHur]

I can't.
If he advocated change and made an argument for change, yes, indeed. But he has demanded we accept the dark side of his culture as justice.

Here you are definitely posing like a snob , a sadist......a faithless soul

 

[mazHur]

Looks like a diversionary tactic to me

answer the questio rather than try to side track it

 

[Stone]

Maz was desperate using carter as an effort to make a point in the thread.

Well......many of his posts are merely a result of google headline searches. I doubt he even reads them.
I caught several of them in the past that contradicted his arguments.
I don't read them very often, anymore.
It's merely an infantile copy and paste debate that's more of a time wasting diversion than anything else.
It says, 'here, go argue with this guy'.

And using Carter as an authoritative source is an act of desperation

 

[Stone]

Here you are definitely posing like a snob , a sadist......a faithless soul

I laugh at you ......

 

[Stone]

answer the questio rather than try to side track it

You aren't a moderator.
You can't make me

 

[Stone]

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But generalizing these acts to malign the entire culture is patently wrong, absurd and uncalled for.......................................

Translated: you can dish it out but you can't take it.

But mazHur......you have argued that westerners have to accept those actions in your culture as just.

This happened in your nation, by your culture, with an audience:
( graphic video at link )
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...woman-accused-of-adultery-in-Afghanistan.html

How is this demonizing a culture?
It's what your people do!!!!!

 

[Stone]

Yours too are as bad as any. You talk tall of your culture and handpick oddities in my culture to go wanking in the bazaar. That isn't fair. I am not here to change your beliefs and fixed notions....stones do not evolve into living creatures , they never have.

I have reason to concluede that you have run out of 'substance' and have nothing else to pick at..... hence I am not wrong if I declared you a loser!!

I am not here to change your beliefs and fixed notions.

Sure you are.
All one has to do is read your posts.
You are here to rationalize the actions of your culture.
You claim it's justice and westerners need to accept it.

stones do not evolve into living creatures , they never have.

Stones?
What are you jabbering about?
What's the connection of stones to your culture other than weapons used to inflict pain and death?

I have reason to concluede that you have run out of 'substance' and have nothing else to pick at

Like some more cheese with the whine?

hence I am not wrong if I declared you a loser!!

 

[The Man]

All the abuses and misuses you mention are criminal acts to be condemned

Seriously..but yet your nation supports the taliban and lets them practice sharia law within your border....It is a written agreement the pk government has with the TB.
With a nation as such it can only be expected that one will be eating dead babies as well as honor fucking the dead..as well as celebrations of public torture and death.
You guys can write whatever you want as law..its the enforcement of those laws that count.
A nation that charges a 9 month old baby with attempted murder has no law in the accepted sense...You guys have a mess ,a civil war should happen..but then there are nukes to worry about.
Do you see my concern here?..A nation that charges babies with attempted murder and gives the death penalty to a christian woman from drinking from an unmarked cup.
The Taliban AQ and various other radical groups living happily within your borders with protection.
You blame your country supporting terrorist on the US rather than admit your nation protects them.
You guys gave them designated areas to freely operate in....there they are...go attack..ask the US for help.
The US is at fault on one thing in regard to the terrorists..we didnt follow them into pk and finish the job
The terrorist while mean are pussies as they ran from our rugged troops to the safety of PK its host nation..you guys support pussies...people that like to claim they are men..but hide behind women and children...punks that will not put on a uniform..People that cut off heads and strip women of all rights.
Your culture supports that as you willingly provide the area for them to live and practice their ways.
The pussies kill innocent people with bombs....the punk ass pussies make women vest up and walk into a crowd to blow up innocent peopple ...a prisoner with a few moments of freedom followed by death to herself and the innocent around her.
Its not "our" war as you claim..its every bodies war..all civilized nations got together and said enough is enough..we share intel and resources with each other to constantly spoil planned attacks.
If you want to paint a better image of your nation it has to start by action and not a bunch of blame on the west.
You guys honor kill..has nothing to do with the west.
You guys honor fuck the dead..has nothing to do with the west.
You guys charge babies with attempted murder..has nothing to do with the west.
You guys have capital punishment for christian women which drink from the wrong cup.
You guys kill journalists if they expose to much truth.
You guys support and provide haven for terrorists.
You guys have a fascination with death...honor fucking the dead, baby eating..saving heads from the dead...that doesnt happen in the west.
Your best bet is to declare publicly here on the forum that your nation is a bunch of sick fucks and you do not approve of its culture.
Its as stone says..you cant defend it there is nothing worth defending in regard to your culture.
You say you have british laws...that fine..problem is they are not followed.
I am not one to bash religion..but it is safe to say that Islam is the reason for the mess your country is in as British law is tossed to the wind.

 

[Alien Allen]

I am shocked to see how you respect your ex-president. Viola!

just calling a spade a spade

you can put a shine on a turd but in the end it still is a turd

 

[Stone]

Interesting.
I didn't even know it was possible to polish a turd

 

[mazHur]

Well......many of his posts are merely a result of google headline searches. I doubt he even reads them.
I caught several of them in the past that contradicted his arguments.
I don't read them very often, anymore.
It's merely an infantile copy and paste debate that's more of a time wasting diversion than anything else.
It says, 'here, go argue with this guy'.

And using Carter as an authoritative source is an act of desperation

What do you mean by using Carter?? Wasn't he your (US) ex-President?
Now, stop comparing yourself to the American President.....he has balls you don't.

 

[mazHur]

Interesting.
I didn't even know it was possible to polish a turd

Taliban can teach you how to..

 

[mazHur]

just calling a spade a spade

you can put a shine on a turd but in the end it still is a turd

You don't seem to respect your 'heritage'...I doubt if you have any