AMERICA: NO 1 WAR MONGER.....

[mazHur]

Whoa!
Look at all the crime categories

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Crime_in_Pakistan

I TOLD YOU TO LOOK UP CRIME CATEGORIES IN THE US...ARE YOU DUNCE??

 

[mazHur]

Tell us what you really think

PLAYING CHICKEN, AS THE ARTICLE SAYS

 

[Stone]

more detail to the Mengal story:

http://archives.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=23246

Pakistan 20 September 2007

Police re-arrest Munir Mengal after he is cleared by Baluchistan High Court

Reporters Without Borders voiced indignation at the authorities’ hounding of Munir Mengal, one of the managers of Baloch Voice television.He was released by the Baluchistan High Court on 12 September saying he was guilty of no crime, only to be rearrested by police two days later.

The inspector general of police in Baluchistan told journalists in Quetta on 14 September that Mengal had been arrested by the criminal investigation bureau.

“It is outrageous that 17 months after being kidnapped by military secret services in Karachi, Munir Mengal has still not been released,” the worldwide press freedom organisation said. “The authorities should respect the High Court ruling. His latest arrest is illegal de facto and an insult to the rule of law,” it said.

Lawyers for Mengal decided to take a new case to the Baluchistan High Court against the provincial police and the security forces.

Elsewhere, authorities in Sindh province, ordered to explain the journalist’s disappearance, had said on 19 September that he was no longer being held by their service.

I posted earlier that the laws of Pakistan were being ignored.
Here are the police ignoring a High Court.

 

[Stone]

http://www.state.gov/j/drl/rls/hrrpt/2008/sca/119139.htm

Pakistan is a federal republic with a population of approximately 173 million. During the year, civilian democratic rule was restored in the country. President Asif Ali Zardari, widower of assassinated Pakistan People's Party (PPP) leader Benazir Bhutto, became head of state on September 6, replacing former President Pervez Musharraf, who resigned on August 18. International observers noted that parliamentary elections on February 18, while flawed, were competitive and reflected the will of the people. The election brought to power former opposition parties, led by the PPP, in a coalition government; the national parliament elected Yousuf Gilani as prime minister and head of government on March 24. The PPP and its coalition partners at year's end controlled the executive and legislative branches of the national government and three of the four provincial assemblies. Of the 13 Supreme Court justices whom then President and Chief of Army Staff Musharraf dismissed in November 2007, by year's end the new government had reinstated five under a fresh oath of office; three retired or resigned; and five remained off the bench, including former Chief Justice Iftikhar Chaudhry. The newly elected government did not enforce media restrictions adopted during the 2007 state of emergency. It lifted curbs on unions imposed during Musharraf's tenure, so at year's end workers in some industries could organize legally. In an effort to quell the insurgency in Balochistan, the government withdrew politically motivated charges and exit control restrictions against some Baloch leaders. While the security forces generally accepted direction from the civilian authorities during the year, there were some instances in which elements of the security forces acted independently of civilian authority. The chief of army staff withdrew 3,000 active duty military officers from civil service positions assigned by former President Musharraf.

However:

Despite some improvements after the state of emergency at the end of the previous year, the human rights situation remained poor. Major problems included extrajudicial killings, torture, and disappearances. There were also instances in which local police acted independently of government authority. Collective punishment was a problem particularly in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas (FATA), which falls under the legal framework of the Frontier Crimes Regulation (FCR). Lengthy trial delays and failures to discipline and prosecute those responsible for abuses consistently contributed to a culture of impunity. Poor prison conditions, arbitrary arrest, and lengthy pretrial detention remained problems, as did a lack of judicial independence. Corruption was widespread within the government and police forces, and the government made few attempts to combat the problem . Although implementation of the 2006 Women's Protection Act somewhat improved women's rights, rape, domestic violence, and abuse against women remained serious problems. Honor crimes and discriminatory legislation affected women and religious minorities respectively. Religious freedom violations and inter-sectarian religious conflict continued. Widespread trafficking in persons, child labor, and exploitation of indentured and bonded children were ongoing problems. Child abuse, commercial sexual exploitation of children, discrimination against persons with disabilities, and worker rights remained concerns.

Sorry for the long quotes, but all of it is significant.

There is much much more and it's incredibly gruesome.

Ill post bits and pieces from time to time.

 

[Alien Allen]

we got nothing compared to Muslim countries when it comes to cruel and unusual punishment

 

[The Man]

more detail to the Mengal story:

http://archives.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=23246




I posted earlier that the laws of Pakistan were being ignored.
Here are the police ignoring a High Court.

Doesnt appear to be modeled after the british system.

 

[The Man]

we got nothing compared to Muslim countries when it comes to cruel and unusual punishment

Not even safe once you are dead..cannibalism and fucking the dead also occur from the savage citizens.

 

[Stone]

I TOLD YOU TO LOOK UP CRIME CATEGORIES IN THE US...ARE YOU DUNCE??

Another extreme in Pakistan.
This article is dated material, but still represents the sickness in PK.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Javed_Iqbal_(serial_killer)

Javed Iqbal Mughal (8 October 1956 in Lahore, Punjab, Pakistan – 8 October 2001 in Lahore, Punjab, Pakistan) was a Pakistani serial killer who was found guilty of the sexual abuse and murder of 100 children. He was in a relationship with Logan Shirah.

In December 1999, Iqbal sent a letter to police and a Lahore newspapers chief news editor Khawar Naeem Hashmi confessing to the murders of 100 boys, all aged between six and 16. In the letter, he claimed to have strangled and dismembered the victims - mostly runaways and orphans living on the streets of Lahore - and disposed of their bodies using vats of hydrochloric acid. He then dumped the remains in a local river. In his house, police and reporters found bloodstains on the walls and floor with the chain on which Iqbal claimed to have strangled his victims, photographs of many of his victims in plastic bags. These items were neatly labeled with handwritten pamphlets. Two vats of acid with partially dissolved human remains were also left in the open for police to find, with a note claiming "the bodies in the house have deliberately not been disposed of so that authorities will find them

we got nothing compared to Muslim countries when it comes to cruel and unusual punishment

Obviously.

 

[The Man]

Who shall we start war with today...cant have idle troops

 

[mazHur]

more detail to the Mengal story:

http://archives.rsf.org/article.php3?id_article=23246




I posted earlier that the laws of Pakistan were being ignored.
Here are the police ignoring a High Court.

Police here is one of the topmost corrupt institution,,,you don't have to tell me that,

Judiciary too is a hotchpotch of tame lawyer-judges...you too can become a magistrate here for a few thousand bucks..

 

[mazHur]

Who shall we start war with today...cant have idle troops

Better improve your Fences,,,,War is bad.

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[The Man]

Well yes war is bad...but should the terrorists expect less?

 

[mazHur]

Well yes war is bad...but should the terrorists expect less?

No, but have we tried to redress their grievances, whatever those are but not clearly defined?

 

[mazHur]

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[The Man]

No, but have we tried to redress their grievances, whatever those are but not clearly defined?

Why just not kill them and be done with it?

 

[mazHur]

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[mazHur]

Why just not kill them and be done with it?

can you kill a Phoenix???

 

[The Man]

can you kill a Phoenix???

Can a terrorist kill a phoenix?
But the question is can pk kill the terrorists within to make the world a more peaceful place to live.

 

[Stone]

.........................
But the question is can pk kill the terrorists within to make the world a more peaceful place to live.

Unlikely.
Their military has no unified loyalty. Some back their homeland, some sympathize and support many of the various terrorist factions that the government once held influence over, some simply anti American like maz is..

Then there is the issue of their population.
As we've seen here and learned ....their society has backslid morally and ethically and more interested in the base pleasures of vice. Can't count on their resolve, either.

Without the support of the US, PK implodes for sure.
Even with our current support it looks uncertain.

A lot of interest in drone technology going on in our military.
I suspect taking out terrorist leadership from a control room hundreds or thousands of miles away will have a bigger impact than PK military when the technology matures.

 

[Stone]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_discrimination_in_Pakistan

Religious discrimination in Pakistan

Religious discrimination in Pakistan is a serious issue. Christians and Ahmadi Muslims are routinely discriminated against. They are refused jobs, loans, housing and have had their postal service stopped. Churches and Ahmadi mosques are regularly attacked and worshipers physically assaulted.

footnote:
http://www.hrw.org/world-report-2012/world-report-2012-pakistan
Pakistan had a disastrous year in 2011, with increasing attacks on civilians by militant groups, skyrocketing food and fuel prices, and the assumption of near-total control of foreign and security policy by a military that operated with complete impunity. Religious minorities faced unprecedented insecurity and persecution. Freedom of belief and expression came under severe threat as Islamist militant groups murdered Punjab Governor Salmaan Taseer and Federal Minorities’ Minister Shahbaz Bhatti over their public support for amending the country’s often abused blasphemy laws. Pakistan’s elected government notably failed to provide protection to those threatened by extremists, or to hold the extremists accountable.
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Across Pakistan attacks took place against Shia and other vulnerable groups. Sunni militant groups, such as the supposedly banned Lashkar-e Jhangvi, operated with impunity even in areas where state authority is well established, such as the Punjab province and Karachi.
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Mistreatment of women and girls—including rape, domestic violence, and forced marriage—remains a serious problem. Public intimidation of, and threats to, women and girls by religious extremists increased in major cities in 2011.
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Suicide bombings, armed attacks, and killings by the Taliban, al Qaeda, and their affiliates targeted nearly every sector of Pakistani society, including journalists and religious minorities, resulting in hundreds of deaths. The US and others alleged that the military and Inter Services Intelligence (ISI) were complicit with these networks
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Karachi experienced an exceptionally high level of violence during the year, with some 800 persons killed. The killings were perpetrated by armed groups patronized by all political parties with a presence in the city.
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Further strains developed after a successful US operation in the city of Abbotabad killed al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden. In July the US announced it was withholding some $800 million in military aid to Pakistan. Relations deteriorated still further over Pakistan’s allegedly persistent support for “Haqqani network” militants, a group US officials accused of targeting the US Embassy and US troops in Afghanistan.
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In 2011 religious intolerance was reported to be at its height, hundreds of minorities, women, journalists and liberals were being killed by Islamist extremists, while the state remained a silent spectator, or struggled to engage in cover-up operations
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In 2011 the United States Commission on International Religious Freedom(USCIRF) released a report on the public schools and Madrassas in Pakistan. The study concluded

Public school textbooks used by all children often had a strong Islamic orientation, and Pakistan's religious minorities were referenced derogatorily or omitted altogether;
Hindus were depicted in especially negative terms, and references to Christians were often inaccurate and offensive;
Public school and madrassa teachers had limited awareness or understanding of religious minorities and their beliefs, and were divided on whether religious minorities were citizens;
Teachers often expressed very negative views about Ahmadis, Christians, and Jews, and successfully transmitted these biases to their students;