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Stone

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By funding anti-government protesters in Ukraine and the rebels in the Syria war? lol, you're just American who worships America.


You're a debater that abuses intellectual honesty by trying to equate the current peace process of diplomacy to immoral and unethical actions of the US elsewhere, and attempt to rationalize your own agenda for the act of violent Russian domination.

It's not about me or my opinions, it's about you arguing for Russian domination.
Those of socialist thought are often accused of inflicting 'the end justifies the means' arguments as rationale for their actions.
Do you support the return to a socialist political model in the Russian sphere?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism#Social_and_Political_theory


You've presented a very shallow propagandist argument.
The issue you argue turns out to be acceptance for Russian aggression, not what is morally and/or ethically correct to this issue ( of Russian aggression) that you initially kept in the shadows. The ethics and morality of the US are merely a 'red herring' argument. BTW.....that's a logical fallacy.
 

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No, Vietnam invaded China, lol.

Are you going to continue denial as a rebutal?

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

China did invade Vietnam and I gave you linkage to it earlier.
 

Naiwen

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Vietnamese_War

China invades Vietnam[edit]
Main article: Sino-Vietnamese War
In February 1979, China retaliated against Vietnam's invasion of Kampuchea by dispatching troops along the Sino-Vietnam border, and within ten days had reached the provincial capitals.[
So it's a retaliation of an invaded land, so fully justified, just like the Russian "invasion" in Ukraine. Russia should defend what's rightfully theirs and her interest, just like America should stop meddling in others' interests.
 

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So it's a retaliation of an invaded land, so fully justified, just like the Russian "invasion" in Ukraine. Russia should defend what's rightfully theirs and her interest, just like America should stop meddling in others' interests.


You have claimed China never invaded anyone.
................................., China never invaded anyone in history. ..........................
Now you claim it was justified.
Can't have it both ways.


Russia should defend what's rightfully theirs
You've provided nothing to back up that claim but your opinion.
To the contrary, I provided effective rebuttal.

You don't even seem aware of the locations of the Ukraine, the Crimea, nor Russia on a map.


This is simply more expression of denial by you, Naiwen.
 

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You have claimed China never invaded anyone.

Now you claim it was justified.
Can't have it both ways.



You've provided nothing to back up that claim but your opinion.
To the contrary, I provided effective rebuttal.

You don't even seem aware of the locations of the Ukraine, the Crimea, nor Russia on a map.


This is simply more expression of denial by you, Naiwen.

No, you haven't proven anything either, you've just provided your own opinion, which is different than mine, so of course, you'll use what's advantageous to you only.
You and I don't have to agree on things, and are you Gamer Perfection?
 

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I knew something was wrong here since the very first post, including this one...

"Some non Asian guys think and say to me: "You're so pretty, you're Asian". Mostly White men who got yellow fever say this sort of things. I get so tired of these things... So yeah, what do you think of this "yellow fever", phenomenon?"
 

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So it's a retaliation of an invaded land, so fully justified, just like the Russian "invasion" in Ukraine. Russia should defend what's rightfully theirs and her interest, just like America should stop meddling in others' interests.
bullshit

i am done
 

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I knew something was wrong here since the very first post, including this one...

"Some non Asian guys think and say to me: "You're so pretty, you're Asian". Mostly White men who got yellow fever say this sort of things. I get so tired of these things... So yeah, what do you think of this "yellow fever", phenomenon?"



LOL!
 

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No, you haven't proven anything either, you've just provided your own opinion, which is different than mine, so of course, you'll use what's advantageous to you only.
You and I don't have to agree on things, and are you Gamer Perfection?


You really don't play denial to your advantage.
You've been evasive at times, flip flopping on claims, and using a logical fallacy to initiate debate.

And I have backed up my rebuttals with outside sources.

I am not Gamer Perfection and do not know that member or any one with that name/screen name.
But I am getting to know you better ;)
 

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I knew something was wrong here since the very first post, including this one...

"Some non Asian guys think and say to me: "You're so pretty, you're Asian". Mostly White men who got yellow fever say this sort of things. I get so tired of these things... So yeah, what do you think of this "yellow fever", phenomenon?"

I just couldn't get your post out of my mind, so I did a little associative searching.
Nothing damning, just interesting results associated to the thread starter.
Well, maybe a bit :D

Many links found that associate the name 'Naiwen' to 'yellow fever' like this:
http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showthread.php?p=7939745 anime avatar
https://8th.us/topic/who-do-asian-girls-date.9727/#post-206342 blondie avatar
http://www.chat-addicts.com/threads...ards-in-articles-news.11660/page-2#post-94875 Indian princess avatar
and many more I suspect

But.
Naiwen has aliases, perhaps many . Certainly a lot of forum accounts.
Consider these two links and associate birth dates to 'our' Naiwen:
http://admin-talk.com/threads/hello-how-are-you.5951/
I have many usernames on the internet, Ashera, Naiwen, Yune are all my aliases
and that was posted 3 1/2 years ago
http://admin-talk.com/threads/hello-how-are-you.5951/

But is the Princess Naiwen and our Naiwen one and the same?
I believe so and followed up on our Naiwen's strange comment about 'GamerPerfection'.
I thought it was a person at first. But I found an association between the Princess Neiwan Ashera and a video named 'Gamer Perfection' that relates to a web site of the same name and a connections to social sites like twitter and facebook. Why there is an association is more time than I want to spend.
There just is.
http://www.youtube.com/user/MsNaiwen
But listed there are an accumulation of her chosen vids and a lot of commentary by her with other youtube members.
Follow her comments
An incredible amount of hatred for 'white' people
http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?lc=VUtAiHZo4VL2gbiTSX_7IaKdXweRf0Cy3haTiGu6qC4&v=SUN7cKIgn8Y
& Whites have been making other races look evil & bad in history & you're saying I can't do it to Whites? How hypocrite you are then.

Because of our Naiwen's unusual reference to GamerPerfection and a like named person that presents the same diatribes, it's logical to assume both are the same.

Back to the Indian Princess Naiwen
http://naiwen.dreamwidth.org/41782.html
This is Naiwen's journal ( blog )
And the title of that page is, drum roll:
"Recipe 262: Xing Jiang Lamb Brochettes & "Human Rights" Issues between the Uyghurs and Han Chinese"
Actually pretty slick.......imaging a propaganda machine as a food blog :D

How in the world do you find time for all this?
Or do you have 'help'? And if you do, is it subsidized by a government agency?


Obviously, our site is being spammed .........by someone that hates us.
 

The Man

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It's you who needs to wake up to reality. Just because we disagree on some perspectives, it doesn't necessarily mean I need to wake up and sees reality, just means we disagree on things, that's all.

But Ukraine was part of the URSS (like Russia was part of it), and all shall be returned to mighty Russia in due time, like everything would be returned to China in due time. So America should stop meddling in other' internal affairs.
Irrelevant as Russia made a deal in the 90s ..that deal consisted of preventing Russia from doing just this.
The US also signed the deal...so if nothing else you can look at it like this..We are going to make sure that deal is enforced ...hardly "meddling"
 

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I do not understand what benefit America wants to draw from going all our berserk with one and all?? Isn't America paying hell with the American's tax money which otherwise could be spent on beneficial use?
11 Year war in Afghanistan has failed..and America is trying to quit it after leaving thousands of Pakistani soldiers and civilians dead and thrusting not only Afhanistan but also Pakistan into victim of terrorism. Firstly, the gimmick was to catch and kill Obama. After he was wiped out the issue has been diverted to Taliban just to keep on warring and killing people.
Now Russia has turned its eye towards Ukraine and America is criticizing Russia for aggression forgetting that it itself has been the root cause of trouble in Egypt and other countries. Afterall what is America upto? Being Big doesn't mean being a bully. If America was attacked by Obama he got killed ...end of the story. But America wants to continue warring under different pretexts...some may be mere apprehensions others realities. But the truth is America must pay more attention to its defense at home rather than wage war in the world.
I recall Turkish and Arab strife over Cyprus....Gamal Ataturk came and put and end to
the war by adopting a policy of non-expansionism. He gave back the Arabs their part of Cyprus and kept one which belonged to it. This ended the dispute.
Likewise America too can settle controversial matters but UNO seems a mere puppet playing in the hands of America (the Boss) and its allies.
One must not forget that 'Every Rise has a Fall'' and America may not be an exception in the long run.

Let's all look forward to world peace and say No to warring.

BTW nobody hates America or Americans; people only hate American political policies towards others.
American, nodoubt, are a great people and so are others. We must not try to discriminate others by our richness or muscle power. Only bullies would do that, right?
 

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Osama was the target not Obama.
But anyway...the idea was to elimnate aq traing grounds which were provided by the taliban in afg.
Sadly due to using to much caution..advancements were slow and allowed the camps to disperse.
Additiinally common afg citizens upset with America bombing the desert ...many become enemies of th US.
Now we had a good portion of the enemy hiding within himes etc of the citzens.
It gets worse...mant people actually wanted the tb present anyway before the US come along .
Why?
They liked the strict Islamic law ..As they convoyed around shooting women in the streets and chopping the heads off others.
Fuck afg...while some of them may be ok....the majority if them can suck my big white dick.



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Osama was the target not Obama.
But anyway...the idea was to elimnate aq traing grounds which were provided by the taliban in afg.
Sadly due to using to much caution..advancements were slow and allowed the camps to disperse.
Additiinally common afg citizens upset with America bombing the desert ...many become enemies of th US.
Now we had a good portion of the enemy hiding within himes etc of the citzens.
It gets worse...mant people actually wanted the tb present anyway before the US come along .
Why?
They liked the strict Islamic law ..As they convoyed around shooting women in the streets and chopping the heads off others.
Fuck afg...while some of them may be ok....the majority if them can suck my big white dick.



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So you advocate killing off innocents for "human rights"?
 
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