A question for Trinitarians.

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A question for Trinitarians.

Let’s check the math on the Trinity.
Math never lies.

Is God/Trinity 100% God or 300% or 400% ?
God the Father is 100% God.
God the Holy Spirit is 100% God.
God the Son is 100% God.
Jesus is 100% Man.

All would have their individual Natures. These natures should all be equal yet scripture is clear that they are not. I E. Cursing the Holy Spirit.

The Trinity must then consist of the God the Father nature, God the Holy Spirit nature, Jesus/God Nature and Jesus/Man Nature.

Is that not four distinct Natures?

Trinity means three, should we not be calling it something else?

Monotheism is one, should Christianity take that title or attribute?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mII6-IyaT3o&feature=related

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All three can be equally God, yet at the same time having a distinct "person". They can all be equal, yet have different roles.

Honestly, it's a concept that Christians believe in which they themselves have trouble wrapping their head around.
 

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All three can be equally God, yet at the same time having a distinct "person". They can all be equal, yet have different roles.

Honestly, it's a concept that Christians believe in which they themselves have trouble wrapping their head around.

Yes to your last. No to the first.

As I indicated above, the 4 I name all have different values.
Scripture places the H S above the other 3.
It places the Father above the Son/God and the son/human.
Can you explain that part?

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Yes to your last. No to the first.

As I indicated above, the 4 I name all have different values.
Scripture places the H S above the other 3.
It places the Father above the Son/God and the son/human.
Can you explain that part?

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Yes, there is somewhat of a hierechy.

The Father released the Son who then released the Holy Spirit.

Nonetheless they are all considered 100% God and equal.
 

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Yes, there is somewhat of a hierechy.

The Father released the Son who then released the Holy Spirit.

Nonetheless they are all considered 100% God and equal.

Then why can I curse one head and not the other?

Further, what does this tell you?

John 14:28
Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

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If God is analogous to water, ice and vapor then the Holy Ghost is vapor, Jesus is water and the Father and God of the O T is ice.
O T God deserves to have lost our love and it is no wonder that He was replaced by Jesus.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fyJsXrRilM&feature=player_embedded

Or at least the Bible writers hoped that we would be forgiving enough to accept Jesus. I am not.
I do not mind Jesus so much even with his unworkable sayings as a Rabbi and fully human but if he is the O T God then I have a bullet with justice and his name written on it.
That is justice for any that would use genocide on man.

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Maths is the fundamental law of the natural universe.

I can't see how it could possibly be applied to the supernatural world.
 

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Perhaps I'm naive. Perhaps I didn't go to Catholic church long enough. But I didn't realize that God the Son and Jesus the Man were considered two separate entities that were both considered part of the trinity. They're termed differently, but ultimately they are the same thing, are they not?

Again, I admit that I may be wrong. I spent more of my life being taught something different, so I may misunderstand.
 

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I'd like to know who is originally credited with the theory (besides God)... or I guess, who did God tell this too? ;)
 

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I'd like to know who is originally credited with the theory (besides God)... or I guess, who did God tell this too? ;)

The theory is in the Bible, however it is never labeled or outright specified.

For instance, at the end of the book of Matthew, Jesus tells his disciples to go to the nations, baptizing them in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. In the beginning of Mark, while Jesus is being baptized the Bible says that the Holy Spirit descended from heaven and the voice of the Father could be heard.

There are a lot of references in the Bible to the concept.

However, it wasn't until one of those Church councils that the idea was actually pieced together, named, and declared standard doctrine.
 

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I think the trinity is man's attempt to harmonize some disparate beliefs.

Mr. Deity is very comical. Thanks for sharing it. I've seen a lot of them but I hadn't seen that one.
 

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Jesus Camp is a great movie. Really shows how crazy Christians are

I wish it was a movie instead of real.

Such is driven by literalists and fundamentals. Fight them whenever you can friend.
For evil to grow, all good men need do is nothing.

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Perhaps I'm naive. Perhaps I didn't go to Catholic church long enough. But I didn't realize that God the Son and Jesus the Man were considered two separate entities that were both considered part of the trinity. They're termed differently, but ultimately they are the same thing, are they not?

Again, I admit that I may be wrong. I spent more of my life being taught something different, so I may misunderstand.

Everyone misunderstand Bible God.
That is why belief is based on faith.
Faith without facts is for fools.

Believers, when pressed for logic and reason always run to hide behind words like mysterious ways and unfathomable.

If you are a believer, you will hide behind these as well.

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I think the trinity is man's attempt to harmonize some disparate beliefs.

Mr. Deity is very comical. Thanks for sharing it. I've seen a lot of them but I hadn't seen that one.

My pleasure.
Pass it around.
For evil to grow, all good men need do is nothing.

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DL
 
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