9/11 ... Who did it ?

[flipx]

I saw that back at the time she was assassinated. As I recall Frost did not even catch her saying Bin Laden had been killed. Did anybody else ever ask her is she miss spoke or if she knew something others did not?

I doubt she would have miss spoken Bin Ladens name, and I'm pretty sure this is a big reason why she finally ended up assassinated. A big part of me strongly believes this is true, and that Bin Laden has been dead for some time now.

 

[Alien Allen]

I doubt she would have miss spoken Bin Ladens name, and I'm pretty sure this is a big reason why she finally ended up assassinated. A big part of me strongly believes this is true, and that Bin Laden has been dead for some time now.

She was killed for reasons.

She was against everything the militant Muslims stand for. She would have taken a hard line against them and rooted them out if given the chance.

 

[canidae]

9/11 ... Who did it ?

Two words . . . and these will probably be the last two words I get to write here . . .

black ops :nod:

 

[Alien Allen]

9/11 ... Who did it ?

Two words . . . and these will probably be the last two words I get to write here . . .

black ops :nod:

That is a new one

Care to expound a little further?

I don't buy it for a minute. I saw with my own eyes watching tv hit the 2nd tower. I never knew black ops to be suicide bombers either

What do you say about the phone calls by those on the plane that crashed in the field? That would be quite the conspiracy to have those individuals and their loved ones to be in on it?

 

[canidae]

That is a new one

Care to expound a little further?

I don't buy it for a minute. I saw with my own eyes watching tv hit the 2nd tower. I never knew black ops to be suicide bombers either

What do you say about the phone calls by those on the plane that crashed in the field? That would be quite the conspiracy to have those individuals and their loved ones to be in on it?

Sorry, I was just messing around. But after further thought, I should shut up now, lest I forget what happened and what I saw as well. I find I have blocked those memories better than I had realized . . .

 

[kelvin070]

Bin Laden's death cannot be ruled out. He is old, sickly and its hard to survive in a cave like that without proper medication and hospitalisation

 

[Alien Allen]

Bin Laden's death cannot be ruled out. He is old, sickly and its hard to survive in a cave like that without proper medication and hospitalisation

she stated he was murdered

 

[kelvin070]

she stated he was murdered

lingering doubts abt him

 

[vennus4purity]

hey canidae watch zeitgeist then try to argue the facts ... i dont care who u are, if u argue facts that have been scientifically proven u will lose... where did u hear about that sit anyways? maybe it was the completely corrupt media that only lets u hear what they want u to hear.. unless u of course heard these calls with ur own ears first hand. but wait a minute u would have to be dead with the people on the alleged plane, but ooo look at that ur not

 

[canidae]

hey canidae watch zeitgeist then try to argue the facts ... i dont care who u are, if u argue facts that have been scientifically proven u will lose... where did u hear about that sit anyways? maybe it was the completely corrupt media that only lets u hear what they want u to hear.. unless u of course heard these calls with ur own ears first hand. but wait a minute u would have to be dead with the people on the alleged plane, but ooo look at that ur not

Follow the thread - are you talking to me?

swing and a miss . . .

 

[vennus4purity]

obviously... begin ur debate with facts please.. its hard enough to try and enlighten people to the truth about our government and society without people bringin up stuff they heard on the news... do u have any facts?

 

[canidae]

obviously... begin ur debate with facts please.. its hard enough to try and enlighten people to the truth about our government and society without people bringin up stuff they heard on the news... do u have any facts?

Ok, I'll bite. facts about what?

 

[vennus4purity]

about ur claim that there were phone calls from the plane... y is it so hard to believe that since certain criminal elements within our govt were the prime cause for the sinking of the lusitania which led us into ww1, pearl harbor which led us into ww2, and the alleged u boat sinking that was later admitted as a "mistake" which led us into vietnam and the twin towers that led us into the so called war on terror so that certain people could reap mass profits in and behind our governments by funding both sides of the war just like it has been proven that they have always done

 

[canidae]

about ur claim that there were phone calls from the plane... y is it so hard to believe that since certain criminal elements within our govt were the prime cause for the sinking of the lusitania which led us into ww1, pearl harbor which led us into ww2, and the alleged u boat sinking that was later admitted as a "mistake" which led us into vietnam and the twin towers that led us into the so called war on terror so that certain people could reap mass profits in and behind our governments by funding both sides of the war just like it has been proven that they have always done

Ok, again, read the thread. Allen was talking about the phone calls, not me. I was making a snide remark about black ops being responsible for 9/11. The idea that there is indeed an all powerful entity within our gov't that covertly controls everything.

But what you are alluding to has all been done before. The Kennedy assasination, us not really landing on the moon, etc.

So lets say it's true, a large underground element of our own gov't is behind all the "history" of this country. For what purpose is this being done? And furthermore, what am I to do about it? I can barely hold my own on this forum, let alone bring down our all powerful morons in office. And if they are being controled by others . . . forget about it

 

[vennus4purity]

lmao i completely misunderstood you apparently... i agree with you completely, but ur wrong about one thing, the forget about it part... as long as we dont at least try to educate others to what we know is true then we will always stand alone. a human being as an individual can accomplish nothing, but if we could get everyone or at least a majority convinced then we as people hold more power over them than they could ever hold over us.

 

[canidae]

lmao i completely misunderstood you apparently... i agree with you completely, but ur wrong about one thing, the forget about it part... as long as we dont at least try to educate others to what we know is true then we will always stand alone. a human being as an individual can accomplish nothing, but if we could get everyone or at least a majority convinced then we as people hold more power over them than they could ever hold over us.

So this is nothing more than a power struggle? And who is to say "they" don't see a bigger picture than we? And what do we do after we gain all this power? Who says we will be any better than anyone else has been at running things?

At first, maybe things will be better, but for who? You can't please everyone. And those who aren't in power and/or are not happy about the way we run things will return the favor and here we go again.

And I bet even you and I differ on how we want things to be - so how would we form any majority?

 

[vennus4purity]

nice, very interesting points. to form a majority first we would have to definately educate people on what the government does with all this power that we bestow upon them and then im sure that most people would share at least one common goal, thats definately the first step as for others it would take much deliberation on how to put together a society and i dont know all the answers all i know is that for one thing the federal reserve has to go. before the federal reserve the country was accomplishing what it set out to do and that was a truly free democracy, since the federal reserve loans all money to out government at interest the government can never get outta debt thus creating more and more taxes because every year they create money the governement goes further into debt the only outcome of this cycle is an eventual economic bankruptcy.. if they paid every dollar back to the reserve that they owe there wouldnt be a single dollar left in cirulation and there would probably still be debt.. because of the interest

 

[vennus4purity]

and as sighted by benjamin franklin the fact that the central bank in england wouldnt give the colonies there own currency was one of the prime reason for the war in the first place then we didnt have a central bank until about the early 1900s that is the kind of monetary system that should have been there all along

 

[canidae]

nice, very interesting points. to form a majority first we would have to definately educate people on what the government does with all this power that we bestow upon them and then im sure that most people would share at least one common goal, thats definately the first step as for others it would take much deliberation on how to put together a society and i dont know all the answers all i know is that for one thing the federal reserve has to go. before the federal reserve the country was accomplishing what it set out to do and that was a truly free democracy, since the federal reserve loans all money to out government at interest the government can never get outta debt thus creating more and more taxes because every year they create money the governement goes further into debt the only outcome of this cycle is an eventual economic bankruptcy.. if they paid every dollar back to the reserve that they owe there wouldnt be a single dollar left in cirulation and there would probably still be debt.. because of the interest

Here's a thought. Just let it happen. History shows human attempts at existence on this planet has been a dynamic experience. We evolve, and devolve, etc.

Who will control this "education" anyways? Where is the line between education and brainwashing? True education teaches people how to think for themselves. Truly educated people would understand the balance necessary for a society to survive.

Good luck trying to convince "most people" of anything. You'll have to be the best marketer on the planet.

 

[vennus4purity]

thats where ur wrong... just letting it happen destroys any free right u could possibly have as a human, and well its obviously possible considering the fact that someone has convinced u as well as the countless other americans and people from other cultures all over the world that change isnt possible