10 y/o girl arrested for using knife to cut steak

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The girl's uncle, Kenneth Thomas, told MyFOXOrlando that his niece had to ride in the back of a patrol car.

Captain Jimmy Pogue of the Marion County Sheriff's office said the 10-year-old was not treated like a criminal.

"I don't want people to feel like we're arresting 10-year-olds, handcuffing them, and hauling them off in a back of a patrol car and taking them to jail," Pogue told MyFOXOrlando. "That's not the circumstance."

The report will be turned over to the State Attorney's office and they will decide if to follow up with the weapon's charge.

I think you MISSED the most important part. I highlighted it for you though.


Of course you seem to only want to believe the most RELIABLE media .. LOL.
 
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Yes there was a reason for it.

THE LAW STATES THAT CHILDREN SHOULD NOT BRING KNIVES TO SCHOOL. Regardless of what it's used for or what her intention for using it is.

PERIOD.

Please, get this VERY simple point into your head, let it sink in. Please.


I don't care. They broke the law and she got punished. Thats the way crime and punishment should be.
I live with a police officer and he is dip too. BUT he even told me somethings are on call basis. Arresting a child for having a knife to cut her steak is not called for.
I know it makes you feel good to come down hard on a 10 year old but it is not necessary.
 

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SHE DID NOT GET ARRESTED...OR HANDCUFFED...

Actually, it does state she was arrested.

According to the report, a couple of teachers took the utensil and called authorities, who arrested the girl and took her to the county’s juvenile assessment center.

Perhaps someone in law enforcement can clarify this, but I thought the process of arrest meant reading Miranda Rights and handcuffs.
 

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OMG .. lol .. your posts seriously make me L .. O .. L.

You're being absolutely ridiculous. Seriously.
 

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I live with a police officer and he is dip too. BUT he even told me somethings are on call basis. Arresting a child for having a knife to cut her steak is not called for.
I know it makes you feel good to come down hard on a 10 year old but it is not necessary.

No, what makes me feel good is that the school administration uses even the slightest example of a non-incident to show what will happen if a child brings a weapon to school with the intent to cause harm to another human being in an establishment that is meant to be used to learn. I don't care what this 10 year olds' intent with the knife was, she brought it to school. That's illegal and it's being dealt with. A slap on the wrist and a letter home (which costs taxpayers money, btw) isn't as effective as coming down hard on an illegal activity which resulted in NO fatalities or injuries.

I'm happy that these parents and this child are being made an example of, because now little emo-johnny-shit-head will think twice about bringing a weapon to school.
 

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Actually, it does state she was arrested.



Perhaps someone in law enforcement can clarify this, but I thought the process of arrest meant reading Miranda Rights and handcuffs.

They removed her from teh school .. but I don't believe they finger printed her and read her her rights .. she wouldn't understand them even if they did. They "detained" her is what they "techincally" did.

I could be wrong, but according to what the tidbit of an article states .. the media says they arrested her .. the police say they did not.

They are not forced to handcuff someone to arrest them. They handcuff people to keep them from hurting officers or themselves.
 

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So we're choosing to believe different parts of the article...one part clearly says she was arrested by authorities (with its implications) and another part says she was not treated like a criminal (which has other implications). That's conflicting information.
 

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The girl's uncle, Kenneth Thomas, told MyFOXOrlando that his niece had to ride in the back of a patrol car.

Captain Jimmy Pogue of the Marion County Sheriff's office said the 10-year-old was not treated like a criminal.

"I don't want people to feel like we're arresting 10-year-olds, handcuffing them, and hauling them off in a back of a patrol car and taking them to jail," Pogue told MyFOXOrlando. "That's not the circumstance."

The report will be turned over to the State Attorney's office and they will decide if to follow up with the weapon's charge.

I think you MISSED the most important part. I highlighted it for you though.


Of course you seem to only want to believe the most RELIABLE media .. LOL.
I guess you missed the comment I made after that quote. :smiley24:

Now I have no reason at all to disbelieve the police when they say they did not treat her like an animal. The fact they were even involved is what I have a problem with.

And you say you read what I say.
 

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So we're choosing to believe different parts of the article...one part clearly says she was arrested by authorities (with its implications) and another part says she was not treated like a criminal (which has other implications). That's conflicting information.

Based on how the media trys to pit people against authority figures to create a sensational stry line for their paper headlines .. me personally .. believing law enforcement that one cannot legally interrogate a child under 16, I believe it is, without a parent present (which is why they took her to the Juvi Assesment Center in the first place) .. I honestly don't believe that she was actually "arrested".

I also don't believe weapons charges will be pressed against her. I think this whole thing was meant to make an impression .. which is clearly has.

I could be totally wrong .. I have no way to know until more is released tho.
 

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No, what makes me feel good is that the school administration uses even the slightest example of a non-incident to show what will happen if a child brings a weapon to school with the intent to cause harm to another human being in an establishment that is meant to be used to learn. I don't care what this 10 year olds' intent with the knife was, she brought it to school. That's illegal and it's being dealt with. A slap on the wrist and a letter home (which costs taxpayers money, btw) isn't as effective as coming down hard on an illegal activity which resulted in NO fatalities or injuries.

I'm happy that these parents and this child are being made an example of, because now little emo-johnny-shit-head will think twice about bringing a weapon to school.
She did not bring a weapon to school with the intent to cause harm. She brought a utensil with the intent to cut her steak yet you think it is ok to treat her like a criminal as if she was bringing a weapon.
 

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She did not bring a weapon to school with the intent to cause harm. She brought a utensil with the intent to cut her steak yet you think it is ok to treat her like a criminal as if she was bringing a weapon.

You didn't read what I said. So fuck this. I'm done.

We're going to keep going on and on and on in circles because you refuse to drive the point of KNIVES ARE BANNED FROM SCHOOL PROPERTY, and as such IT IS ILLEGAL TO CARRY A KNIFE ON SCHOOL PROPERTY into your head for me, so I'm done.

Hell even the report said she wasn't treated as a criminal, yet now here you are putting those words into my mouth? :wtf:
 

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You didn't read what I said. So fuck this. I'm done.

We're going to keep going on and on and on in circles because you refuse to drive the point of KNIVES ARE BANNED FROM SCHOOL PROPERTY, and as such IT IS ILLEGAL TO CARRY A KNIFE ON SCHOOL PROPERTY into your head for me, so I'm done.

Hell even the report said she wasn't treated as a criminal, yet now here you are putting those words into my mouth? :wtf:
I read what you said but no matter how you slice it. I do not think she should have been arrested. Get over it.
 

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Without actually having been informed of the school policy, I will say this:
If the school policy strictly states that knives of all kinds are banned from school property
AND
if the school policy also states that the authorities will be called to handle any and all infractions of that policy,
then
I have no problem with the police being called.
 

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Without actually having been informed of the school policy, I will say this:
If the school policy strictly states that knives of all kinds are banned from school property
AND
if the school policy also states that the authorities will be called to handle any and all infractions of that policy,
then
I have no problem with the police being called.

withnancy.gif again.

This has been my entire point as to why I wholly agree with police intervention in this case 100%.
 

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It is sad that life in this nation has come to the point where people champion the arrest of a 10 year old who had a steak knife for her lunch.
We have truly become scared of our own shadow.
 

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It is sad that life in this nation has come to the point where people champion the arrest of a 10 year old who had a steak knife for her lunch.
We have truly become scared of our own shadow.

Oh I would not agree with it. I still think it's ridiculous. But if it was the school policy to allow the authorities to handle it, then so be it. This makes me know that when my time comes as a parent, I am going to be sure I know the policies in place at the school my kid goes to.
 

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It is sad that life in this nation has come to the point where people champion the arrest of a 10 year old who had a steak knife for her lunch.
We have truly become scared of our own shadow.

It's sad that life in this nation has come to the point where kids are running around shooting up classmates out of repressed anger and due to irresponsible parenting, these children have open access to weapons they'll intentionally use to maim others.

Was this girl going to hurt anyone? nope, of course not. I have never stated in this thread that she was planning on using this object as a weapon.

The fact still remains, though, that her uncle/dad/mom gave her a sharp object to take to school where I'm 99.99999% certain any sharp objects are now BANNED due to the tragic events that have taken place over the past 11 some years. In the absence of the legal guardians of this child, the schools' principal/superintendant (who is technically legally responsible for a childs' safety and wellfare on school property during school hours) made the call to make this NON-Incident a precendent to an example of what will happen to anyone else who brings a BANNED object to school.
 
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