neighbor is a cop.

Your lungs are connected to your heart one way or another. You know this, I know this, and even the paraplegic retard in room 2a of the betty ford clinc knows that.

Unless you don't think smoking cigarettes is harmful to your heart either?

Yeah smoking whatever is bad for you. So is eating a double cheeseburger..
 
Erm..not trying to kick off with you here James, I'm just genuinely interested. You smoke don't you? Why do you see that any differently to cannabis. As far as I'm aware they both hold the same health risks. Admittedly cannabis can cause mental health problems but tobacco is far more addictive.
 
Tobacco is addictive due to the nicotine, which is a chemical found naturally in the plant. I agree. I don't recall marijuana ever being scientifically proven to be addictive due to chemicals, but there are several types of addiction. One of which is just a "gimme gimme I WANT" addiction, and the other is "I NEED".

Marijuana falls under the first, tobacco falls under the second. I do smoke, and I am 1,000,000% aware of the risks and health problems ahead. The problem I have with pot heads who defend MJ, is that they say it's not as harmful as tobacco, but then proceed to tell me that it doesn't affect them other than giving them the perception of a higher awareness. Thats utter BS.
 
Erm..not trying to kick off with you here James, I'm just genuinely interested. You smoke don't you? Why do you see that any differently to cannabis. As far as I'm aware they both hold the same health risks. Admittedly cannabis can cause mental health problems but tobacco is far more addictive.


Ummmm Peter.. Tobacco can kill you...
 
Let me say something else. I'm pretty much a rule/law follower. I don't enjoy speeding, I don't enjoy doing stupid shit for a laugh that would get me fined or arrested. My major deterrant to outlawed drugs is simply that they're outlawed.

Secondarily, I've been knock down piss-ass drunk, and I honestly hate that feeling. I couldn't imagine doing weed, and I don't really ever want to try it.

I don't agree with using it because really, whats the point? Its not addicting, and smokers say it doesn't affect them how its always been said its supposed to, then really... what is the point?

Do people really have nothing better to spend their money on? I've been in low income government subsidized housing, and the smell of weed fills the place... why not try putting the money towards college and getting yourself off others' taxes and be a contributing member of society?

Before you jump off on a tangent, Yes I'm aware not all pot smokers are like this, but you can't deny that a large portion of pot heads are just a waste of space.
 
Tobacco is addictive due to the nicotine, which is a chemical found naturally in the plant. I agree. I don't recall marijuana ever being scientifically proven to be addictive due to chemicals, but there are several types of addiction. One of which is just a "gimme gimme I WANT" addiction, and the other is "I NEED".

Marijuana falls under the first, tobacco falls under the second. I do smoke, and I am 1,000,000% aware of the risks and health problems ahead. The problem I have with pot heads who defend MJ, is that they say it's not as harmful as tobacco, but then proceed to tell me that it doesn't affect them other than giving them the perception of a higher awareness. Thats utter BS.

No James. It's not utter BS...

Pot effects people differently.

No one has died from Pot, and thousands die every year from tobacco.
 
Nah, good post. I wouldn't say it gives me a higher awareness, i just find it very calming. The simple reason i smoke it is because I enjoy it, that's it.

I wouldn't say it's harmless but then I dont see something being harmful as a reason to ban something otherwise tobacco, alcohol, bad food, cars, hell virtually anything could be banned.
The "it's bad for you" excuse just really dosen't cut it for me and opens the floodgates to go stupid calling for bans on kinds of stuff.
 
No James. It's not utter BS...

Pot effects people differently.

No one has died from Pot, and thousands die every year from tobacco.

If I were you, I wouldn't trust those "truth" adds. Same government propaganda as "pot is bad".

After some research for a high school paper, I'd found that a lot of the "tobacco related deaths" counted in their ads were people that smoked who, lets say, died in a car accident. Their death had nothing to do with tobacco related health complications, but they smoked.
 
Let me say something else. I'm pretty much a rule/law follower. I don't enjoy speeding, I don't enjoy doing stupid shit for a laugh that would get me fined or arrested. My major deterrant to outlawed drugs is simply that they're outlawed.

Secondarily, I've been knock down piss-ass drunk, and I honestly hate that feeling. I couldn't imagine doing weed, and I don't really ever want to try it.

I don't agree with using it because really, whats the point? Its not addicting, and smokers say it doesn't affect them how its always been said its supposed to, then really... what is the point?

Do people really have nothing better to spend their money on? I've been in low income government subsidized housing, and the smell of weed fills the place... why not try putting the money towards college and getting yourself off others' taxes and be a contributing member of society?

Before you jump off on a tangent, Yes I'm aware not all pot smokers are like this, but you can't deny that a large portion of pot heads are just a waste of space.


James. If you are not interested in it, that's fine. I like the stuff, thus why I do it. I also speed, because I don't like being the only car on the road doing the speed limit. Makes me feel unsafe.

These are our own porogatives. And we should all just leave it at that.
 
If I were you, I wouldn't trust those "truth" adds. Same government propaganda as "pot is bad".

After some research for a high school paper, I'd found that a lot of the "tobacco related deaths" counted in their ads were people that smoked who, lets say, died in a car accident. Their death had nothing to do with tobacco related health complications, but they smoked.

Dude, All my grandparents died from smoking.
 
I don't agree with using it because really, whats the point? Its not addicting, and smokers say it doesn't affect them how its always been said its supposed to, then really... what is the point?

Do people really have nothing better to spend their money on? I've been in low income government subsidized housing, and the smell of weed fills the place... why not try putting the money towards college and getting yourself off others' taxes and be a contributing member of society?

Before you jump off on a tangent, Yes I'm aware not all pot smokers are like this, but you can't deny that a large portion of pot heads are just a waste of space.

See, the point of it to me is it's fun. This is just a matter of taste. I don't really see the point of playing guitar hero but that's just me. See where I,m coming from?

I disagree that a large portion of pot heads are wasters too. I know and have known many many people who smoke pot and I've got to say that I've only met one or two who it really is a problem to. Now compare that to alcohol, I'm met slightly more people who drink and met far far more people who have an alcohol problem.
 
Until you speed and start tailgating me. :mad

Everyone here does at least 10mph over the limit.

If you do the limit, you will have cars constantly trying to get around you, and thus creating a less safe situations than if you were to do the same speed as everyone else.

Plus speed limits these days are out-dated. Modern car technology can allow us to drive a little bit faster while still maintaining the same safety.
 
Dude, All my grandparents died from smoking.

and to say that smoking pot (ie inhaling smoke into your lungs, no matter what the source) is any better, I just can't let that go without rebutting it.


See, the point of it to me is it's fun. This is just a matter of taste. I don't really see the point of playing guitar hero but that's just me. See where I,m coming from?

I disagree that a large portion of pot heads are wasters too. I know and have known many many people who smoke pot and I've got to say that I've only met one or two who it really is a problem to. Now compare that to alcohol, I'm met slightly more people who drink and met far far more people who have an alcohol problem.

Well, Guitar hero and smoking is like comparing an economy car to a sports coupe. It just doesn't work.

Guitar hero = one time expense for hours of challenging fun.
Pot = a lot of expense over a long period of time with negative health repercussions.
 
Everyone here does at least 10mph over the limit.

If you do the limit, you will have cars constantly trying to get around you, and thus creating a less safe situations than if you were to do the same speed as everyone else.

Plus speed limits these days are out-dated. Modern car technology can allow us to drive a little bit faster while still maintaining the same safety.

Modern car technology doesn't make up for ignorant driving habits. Speed limit of 25 in a school zone is 25 for a reason. I don't know how many people I've seen bust through stop signs at 7:45 am in school zones doing 40+. Technology doesn't help the innocent kids, at all.
 
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