Legalize?

charLIE2291 said:
I was searching around the web and found this article concerning legalizing marijuana:

Should Governments Legalize and Tax Marijuana?

Ive always argued in favor of legalization...in part because of the increased money through tax, elimination of the black market for pot, and the money saved from policing, court, and prison charges.

What are your thoughts on this? Legalize or not?
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I fail to see any reason not to seeing that harder drugs (alcohol especially) are legal anyway. The government is powerless to stop cannabis, I can have it delivered to my door within 10 minutes! It dosen't cause the social problems of drugs, how many people go to prison for something they did when they were stoned? The government are missing out on a gold mine of tax they could collect by legalising it not to mention the money they would save by not having to prosecute and imprison cannabis users and dealers.
 
Breath said:
We legalized tobacco.
We legalized alcohol.
Convince me that the cost of the addictions, health problems and deaths associated with those are less than the costs of keeping them illegal and financing the policing, court and prison charges.
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Our country would go bankrupt if it wasn't for the tax on alcohol and tobacco. It not only covers the cost of the problems with these drugs but pays for a lot more stuff to. I know people morally dont like to think it does any good but economically it does. I think G Ling posted a thread with an article about this somewhere around here just recently.
 
Breath said:
It's funny to me. There were some posts recently about how prescription drugs are over prescribed. The implication is that the world seems to be unable to function without a chemical to make you happy, to make you sleep, to make you get an erection, to make you shit, to make you less hyper, to wake you up.
So why do we need MORE? Is anyone out there functioning without being under the influence at some point?
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I do it a lot, I take no prescription med's, now I drinks a little but not constantly.
 
Breath said:
So why do we need MORE? Is anyone out there functioning without being under the influence at some point?
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I doubt that legalising Cannabis would create more drug users, as I've already pointed out it's easier for me to get hold of illegal drugs than it is legal ones and that's not just me, it's anyone who wants them. And I don't think there are many people who function without the use of drugs be it a morning cigarette, cup of coffee or asprin when you have a head ache.

Breath said:
Why stop at pot then? Why not make all C-I's legal. Cocaine. Heroin. Etc.
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I agree with making all drugs legal but putting more responsibility on the user for their actions. Just because you did something wrong, the sentence shouldn't be lessened soley because you were under the influence. Punish the crime though, not the taking of drugs.
 
Breath said:
I'm going to be in the minority here and I know it. Drugs are my business. Ya'll know that. But I can't see it. I know the pros. I know the cons. For the record, I've never used pot. I can relate to what would be good about legalizing it. Financial benefits and all that. But I am so "right" on his issue. (I mean politically.) I should be a narcotics agent in my next life.
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Well if you ever become one, you need to kick in the doors of Merck, Lily and a few others;)

They in my humble opinion are the problem. I am not an advocate of drug use in any degree, but I have never seen anyone smoke pot and hurt anyone. Never seen anyone smoke it that couldn't quit, never seen anyone smoke it and kill themselves.

If you ask me, Pharmaceutical companies are the rich mans drug dealers.

*ducks*:ninja
 
Personally I think that whatever you want to do to your body is your business. I think all drugs should be legal. I think there should be age requirements to get them ofcourse but I see no need in making it illegal. If a person really wants to do their drug of choice they don't give a fuck if its legal or not. The American government goes another million dollars in debt every 3 minutes. We do need something to get some of this money back. I know drugs ruin lives, break up families and could end up killing a person. I feel that its that persons choice though, just as suicide is a persons choice. I don't condone these acts and I don't push anyway to go experiment with drugs, but honestly what you do in your house is none of my business. There are so many gang fights and murders and random acts of violence that could all be prevented if they were all legal. Not to mention whats the argument really? It can't be that they are bead for you, because the same argument can be mad for cigs and alcohol and chilly cheese fries for that matter. It can't be because it impairs your ability to operate a car because so does many drugs given by doctors and so does alcohol, which are both obviously legal.


Not to mention if you really want to get into that drug problems ( of the United states atleast ) OPEN A BOOK. Don't believe what the government tells you, or the news ( which is controlled by the government) tells you. The US buys BILLIONS of dollars of cocaine from Colombia every year. Don't pawn it off on your local street dealer. You think some poor smuck in Harlem or Queens or Brooklyn owns a popy field that just happens to grow threw concrete? You think he is making the Cocaine or heroin or whatever else by himself? Hell no. The government is just as guilt, if not more guilty, then the average person.
 
Peter Parka said:
I agree with making all drugs legal but putting more responsibility on the user for their actions. Just because you did something wrong, the sentence shouldn't be lessened soley because you were under the influence. Punish the crime though, not the taking of drugs.
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How could you think it would be a good idea to legalize all drugs? But then again what a person choses to put in his/her body is their choice. I do think that the harm those substances inflict upon their users is to great. Pot though is not any worse than smoking.

If one joint is equal to 10 cigs, say the average smoker smokes a pack a day. 20 cigs=2 joints. Most pot smokers that i know usually smoke on weekends and occasionally through the week. Then you gotta realize that most smoke with others so that cuts it down again. All in all the pot smoked by an average user is roughly equivalent to 3-4 packs of cigs .
 
Breath said:
You don't think the the millions they put into R & D is worth it when life expectancy is longer than it's ever been because of advances in meds for the heart, cancer, blood pressure, HIV, infections, asthma, etc?

*strips off the ninja mask and burns that bitch*
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I think they have drawn life out, they have masked ailments, they haven't cured anything since Polio.

*pulls mask back on*
 
Frozen Emotion said:
Personally I think that whatever you want to do to your body is your business. I think all drugs should be legal. I think there should be age requirements to get them ofcourse but I see no need in making it illegal. If a person...
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Threadjacking my own thread:ninja

I hate how a person has to be 21 to buy alcohol. I can drive, i pay taxes, i can vote, i could be drafted and die for this country...but i cant buy alcohol.
 
Breath said:
You don't think the the millions they put into R & D is worth it when life expectancy is longer than it's ever been because of advances in meds for the heart, cancer, blood pressure, HIV, infections, asthma, etc?

*strips off the ninja mask and burns that bitch*
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I think its worth it and good on them for making so much money too. Now why dosen't the government make much more by bypassing them with morally less objective availability, i.e. people arn't brainwashed into thinking they need a drug, it's their own choice, let people take what drugs they want and watch the money pour in on tax on these drugs?
 
BadBoy@TheWheel said:
I think they have drawn life out, they have masked ailments, they haven't cured anything since Polio.

*pulls mask back on*
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Exactly right. Most disease is not cured. Bacterial infection is about the only thing that can be eradicated, but even that is tougher as more resistance is created. And viruses are tough too because the effin things mutate even more.
It's all about the quality of life, though. Even though you can't cure hypertension, you can put less stress on the organ systems to improve their function. What's wrong with that?
 
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