Looks like it was al-Qaeda who did it. Apparently it seems like she wasn't killed by bullets now but rather a knock on the head.
benazir bhutto killed
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This is an interesting interview with Bhutto. She claims Osama Bin Laden was murderd.
YouTube - Benazir Bhutto: Bin Laden Murdered
I personally think Musharraf had something to do with it. What exactly is too hard to tell this soon. Musharraf denied her protection, even after the initial attack a few weeks ago. Also, reports say that police left their security posts minutes before the attack.
YouTube - Benazir Bhutto: Bin Laden Murdered
I personally think Musharraf had something to do with it. What exactly is too hard to tell this soon. Musharraf denied her protection, even after the initial attack a few weeks ago. Also, reports say that police left their security posts minutes before the attack.
The Iraqis always pull that shit when they know something's gonna happen. Fucking bullshit.
"I strongly deny it. Tribal people have their own customs. We don't strike women."
That part of the statement makes me think he's not to be trusted and talking shit or has he forgot how many women were killed in 9/11 and the London bombings?:mad
Not to mention suicide bombings in crowded markets in Iraq...
Normally, I think Al Qaeda would definitely admit to doing it.
But in this case, they could gain by making people doubt the government and make it a huge conspiracy theory.
But in this case, they could gain by making people doubt the government and make it a huge conspiracy theory.
Exactly :clap
Plus, it would more than likely get Musharraf booted out of office, which would also be beneficial to Al Qaeda.
What's really sad here is that those people are probably more likely to believe Al Qaeda than their own government!!!
So true. The hypocrisy of it.
ok, ok, in poor taste over something serious
i'd put the blame on an extremist loyalist to the government, not neccaceraly acting on there orders but who wanted little opposition to Musharraf's election attempt
i would say that the fact that she was assinated proves that she had popular support and was a threat to the regime in pakistan
she was in my view the hope for pakistan as a stable and good force in all of this chaos,i know many pakistani brits who respected and supported her.
the borders between pakistan and afghanistan now become even more blurred
she was in my view the hope for pakistan as a stable and good force in all of this chaos,i know many pakistani brits who respected and supported her.
the borders between pakistan and afghanistan now become even more blurred
Ditto.
we have an option.......go in.....over-run pakistan.......and give it back to india......trust me they wont put up with it
india hates pakistan and partition was painful enough for those concerned,and im ashamed to say we were responsible for the nightmare of partition
Not sure that'll really work. They don't have any significant oil deposits!!!
[FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif] Investigation [/FONT]
Authorities point the finger at militant pro-Taliban leader
[FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif] Rory McCarthy
Saturday December 29, 2007
The Guardian
[/FONT] Pakistani officials said last night they already had evidence from "intelligence intercepts" linking a pro-Taliban militant commander to the assassination of Benazir Bhutto and several other suicide bombings.On the intercept the commander, named as Baitullah Mehsud, was recorded congratulating his men for the attack on Bhutto, said Javed Iqbal Cheema, Pakistan's interior ministry spokesman.
He described Mehsud as an "al-Qaida leader". Mehsud, who is one of Pakistan's most wanted militants, is known to be a pro-Taliban commander based in the violent tribal region of South Waziristan. Before Bhutto flew back to Pakistan in October he was reported as threatening a wave of suicide attacks against her, but he later denied making the threat.
Pakistani officials said they believed Mehsud was also behind the suicide bomb attack on the day of Bhutto's return which left 130 of her supporters dead. Mehsud was "behind most of the recent terrorist attacks that have taken place in Pakistan," Cheema said.The announcement came as police began the gruesome task of trying to identify the suicide bomber behind the assassination at the start of a fraught and difficult investigation.
The bomber's badly burned head was recovered from the scene of the blast. Saud Aziz, the city's police chief, said investigators would reconstruct the head and take DNA samples from other body parts found nearby in the hope that they could quickly identify the killer.
However, there is already deep mistrust in Pakistan among many, not just Bhutto's supporters, who doubt that a small cell of extremists alone was responsible for her death. At the heart of these fears lies the long and dangerous association of the Pakistani government and its military with Islamic militants, in Afghanistan and Kashmir.
Bhutto herself warned before her death that there were powerful figures in Pakistan plotting to kill her. Yesterday disturbing new evidence emerged of concerns that Bhutto voiced two months ago.
On October 26, a week after her return to Pakistan was marred by a first suicide bombing which killed 138 of her supporters, she sent an email to her spokesman in the United States saying she was anxious that she was not being given enough security. The email was passed to Wolf Blitzer, a CNN presenter, to be published if she was killed. In the email Bhutto said if she was killed it would be the responsibility of Pervez Musharraf, the general who seized power in a coup and became Pakistan's president.
"Nothing will, God willing happen. Just wanted u to know if it does in addition to my names in my letter to Musharaf of Oct 16nth, I wld hold Musharaf responsible," the email said. "I have been made to feel insecure by his minions and there is no way what is happening in terms of stopping me from taking private cars or using tinted windows or giving jammers or four police mobiles to cover all sides cld happen without him. B."
Two days before her return, Bhutto sent Musharraf a letter, giving names and telephone numbers of several men she believed were plotting against her. Reports in the Pakistani press said the men included an official in the Pakistani intelligence agencies, a member of the National Accountability Bureau, which has long investigated corruption cases against her, and a former provincial government official. Then after the first attack on the day of her return, Bhutto asked for international investigators to be assigned to the case. Her request was rejected.
Al-Qaida, or militants allied to the group, might have had a lot to lose if Bhutto had as expected, won next month's elections. She had spoken repeatedly of her plans to take on the tide of militancy sweeping Pakistan. Ayman al-Zawahri, al-Qaida's No 2, spoke out against Bhutto's return in a video this month and called for attacks on all candidates in next month's election.
Bruce Riedel, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and former senior director for south Asia on the national security council, said al-Qaida had been trying to kill Bhutto for many years. "If it's not them, it's certainly one of the groups that are sympathetic with them," he said. "They all work together and share a common antipathy to Bhutto because she's a woman, an advocate of secularism, a supporter of democracy and everything they stand against."
Others say it may be more complex. "It's going to be very difficult to establish the truth of who was behind this," said MJ Gohel, the executive director of the Asia-Pacific Foundation, a security and intelligence thinktank in London.
"As well as the Taliban and al-Qaida elements, there are many other candidates - there are elements within the military and elements within the intelligence services, which never had a good relationship with Bhutto."
The transcript
A transcript released by the Pakistani government yesterday of a purported conversation between militant leader Baitullah Mehsud, who is referred to as Emir Sahib, and another man identified as a Maulvi Sahib, or Mr Cleric. The government alleges the intercepted conversation proves al-Qaida was behind the assassination of Benazir Bhutto
Maulvi Sahib Peace be on you.
Mehsud Peace be on you, too.
MS How are you Emir Sahib?
Mehsud Fine.
MS Congratulations. I arrived now tonight.
Mehsud Congratulations to you, too.
MS They were our men there.
Mehsud Who were they?
MS There were Saeed, the second was Badarwala Bilal and Ikramullah was also there.
Mehsud The three did it?
MS Ikramullah and Bilal did it.
Mehsud Then congratulations to you again.
MS Where are you? I want to meet with you?
Mehsud I am in Makin. Come I am at Anwar Shah's home.
MS OK I will come.
Mehsud Do not inform their family presently.
MS Right.
Mehsud It was a spectacular job. They were very brave boys who killed her.
MS Praise be to God. I will give you more details when I come.
Mehsud I will wait for you. Congratulation once again.
MS Congratulations to you as well.
Mehsud: Any service?
MS Thank you very much?
Mehsud Peace be on you.
MS Same to you.
Authorities point the finger at militant pro-Taliban leader
[FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif] Rory McCarthy
Saturday December 29, 2007
The Guardian
[/FONT] Pakistani officials said last night they already had evidence from "intelligence intercepts" linking a pro-Taliban militant commander to the assassination of Benazir Bhutto and several other suicide bombings.On the intercept the commander, named as Baitullah Mehsud, was recorded congratulating his men for the attack on Bhutto, said Javed Iqbal Cheema, Pakistan's interior ministry spokesman.
He described Mehsud as an "al-Qaida leader". Mehsud, who is one of Pakistan's most wanted militants, is known to be a pro-Taliban commander based in the violent tribal region of South Waziristan. Before Bhutto flew back to Pakistan in October he was reported as threatening a wave of suicide attacks against her, but he later denied making the threat.
Pakistani officials said they believed Mehsud was also behind the suicide bomb attack on the day of Bhutto's return which left 130 of her supporters dead. Mehsud was "behind most of the recent terrorist attacks that have taken place in Pakistan," Cheema said.The announcement came as police began the gruesome task of trying to identify the suicide bomber behind the assassination at the start of a fraught and difficult investigation.
The bomber's badly burned head was recovered from the scene of the blast. Saud Aziz, the city's police chief, said investigators would reconstruct the head and take DNA samples from other body parts found nearby in the hope that they could quickly identify the killer.
However, there is already deep mistrust in Pakistan among many, not just Bhutto's supporters, who doubt that a small cell of extremists alone was responsible for her death. At the heart of these fears lies the long and dangerous association of the Pakistani government and its military with Islamic militants, in Afghanistan and Kashmir.
Bhutto herself warned before her death that there were powerful figures in Pakistan plotting to kill her. Yesterday disturbing new evidence emerged of concerns that Bhutto voiced two months ago.
On October 26, a week after her return to Pakistan was marred by a first suicide bombing which killed 138 of her supporters, she sent an email to her spokesman in the United States saying she was anxious that she was not being given enough security. The email was passed to Wolf Blitzer, a CNN presenter, to be published if she was killed. In the email Bhutto said if she was killed it would be the responsibility of Pervez Musharraf, the general who seized power in a coup and became Pakistan's president.
"Nothing will, God willing happen. Just wanted u to know if it does in addition to my names in my letter to Musharaf of Oct 16nth, I wld hold Musharaf responsible," the email said. "I have been made to feel insecure by his minions and there is no way what is happening in terms of stopping me from taking private cars or using tinted windows or giving jammers or four police mobiles to cover all sides cld happen without him. B."
Two days before her return, Bhutto sent Musharraf a letter, giving names and telephone numbers of several men she believed were plotting against her. Reports in the Pakistani press said the men included an official in the Pakistani intelligence agencies, a member of the National Accountability Bureau, which has long investigated corruption cases against her, and a former provincial government official. Then after the first attack on the day of her return, Bhutto asked for international investigators to be assigned to the case. Her request was rejected.
Al-Qaida, or militants allied to the group, might have had a lot to lose if Bhutto had as expected, won next month's elections. She had spoken repeatedly of her plans to take on the tide of militancy sweeping Pakistan. Ayman al-Zawahri, al-Qaida's No 2, spoke out against Bhutto's return in a video this month and called for attacks on all candidates in next month's election.
Bruce Riedel, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution and former senior director for south Asia on the national security council, said al-Qaida had been trying to kill Bhutto for many years. "If it's not them, it's certainly one of the groups that are sympathetic with them," he said. "They all work together and share a common antipathy to Bhutto because she's a woman, an advocate of secularism, a supporter of democracy and everything they stand against."
Others say it may be more complex. "It's going to be very difficult to establish the truth of who was behind this," said MJ Gohel, the executive director of the Asia-Pacific Foundation, a security and intelligence thinktank in London.
"As well as the Taliban and al-Qaida elements, there are many other candidates - there are elements within the military and elements within the intelligence services, which never had a good relationship with Bhutto."
The transcript
A transcript released by the Pakistani government yesterday of a purported conversation between militant leader Baitullah Mehsud, who is referred to as Emir Sahib, and another man identified as a Maulvi Sahib, or Mr Cleric. The government alleges the intercepted conversation proves al-Qaida was behind the assassination of Benazir Bhutto
Maulvi Sahib Peace be on you.
Mehsud Peace be on you, too.
MS How are you Emir Sahib?
Mehsud Fine.
MS Congratulations. I arrived now tonight.
Mehsud Congratulations to you, too.
MS They were our men there.
Mehsud Who were they?
MS There were Saeed, the second was Badarwala Bilal and Ikramullah was also there.
Mehsud The three did it?
MS Ikramullah and Bilal did it.
Mehsud Then congratulations to you again.
MS Where are you? I want to meet with you?
Mehsud I am in Makin. Come I am at Anwar Shah's home.
MS OK I will come.
Mehsud Do not inform their family presently.
MS Right.
Mehsud It was a spectacular job. They were very brave boys who killed her.
MS Praise be to God. I will give you more details when I come.
Mehsud I will wait for you. Congratulation once again.
MS Congratulations to you as well.
Mehsud: Any service?
MS Thank you very much?
Mehsud Peace be on you.
MS Same to you.
Interesting report and transcript.
These Tribal people had nothing to do with 911. Osama/Al Qaeda isn't tribal.
Ooops, I totally forgot who I thought I was talking about.. My bad..
So yeah, good point then. Maybe they really didn't do this, and just happen to give a BS excuse as to why?... who knows.