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[Johnny C]

Same principle. It's funny how all the Civic lovers think VTEC will make their Civics outrun ANY car on the road! I mean, they put VTEC in their damn mini-vans, are they fast? LoL

I got a new acronym for ya.... LS1. One of the most reliable engines around nowadays. Even if it is running 11s or 12s. They're hard to break.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

So now we're talking about LS1s too? You're jumping around here. Which is it? 93-97 Fbodys, 98-02 or 70s Fbody's?

If thats the impression you get about me and my car, then you should probably start paying attention. VTEC is amazing technology, but it's only a minor part of what a cheap 2000 lb Civic will do with a 170 hp $2000 b16a engine swap. Not to mention 600 for a decent turbo, 600 for a turbo timer and the last 400 for misc items and tuning.

Did I mention I could tune my car for free? Try that with your domestic.

You know what that is? an easy 11 second car that will eventually have a broken axle due to being FAST and CHEAP. Much like your 4000 dollar Fbody will be while pushing so many 11 second runs down the track.

Why are you stuck on a budget for modding cars? You don't get fast by being cheap. I could build a completely street legal Civic that would stay with you or edge you out in the 1/4 mile any day of the week. Get off your pedastal for a change and learn to look on the other side of the fence before you start throwing garbled halfassed nonsense at someone you apparently take for a fucking idiot.

 

[Johnny C]

Never mentioned anything about 70s. Those are totally different monsters, when modded right, that a Civic could never touch.

Now you're swapping engines?? What's wrong with the stock engine??? Never said anything about a budget, just proving a point.

If 4 cylinders are SOOO great, why does NHRA not use them to run 4s in the 1/4 mile? oh wait.. they can't do that....

If I were to add a speed chip to an Fbody, I could tune it for free... guess what? my brother-in-law can tune is 01 Dodge Ram Hemi because he added a speed chip, WOW! Not hard to do.

You're still missing my point. Sure you could make some stupid Civic go 11 in the 1/4 mile, but for how long? for how much $$? It's cheaper to MOD V8s. Plain and simple. V8s can handle the power without dying if modded properly.

PS, Uncle Ben's can do 0-60 in under 5 seconds.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

$4,000

so we're talking MAYBE $4,000 AT THE most

helluva lot more than $4,000.

$4,000 in it, the V8 would spank your Civic.

Never said anything about a budget, just proving a point.

:smiley24:

The NHRA doesn't use Four bangers because it's relatively new technology.

However there is a 4.0L 4 cylinder Integra funny car out there. Of course, you didn't know that. :smiley24:

V8s can handle the power without dying if modded properly.

Apparently you're missing the point. I know what V8s can do, but you should read up on Honda modding if you don't think a Honda will hold up well if done correctly.

 

[Johnny C]

:smiley24:

The NHRA doesn't use Four bangers because it's relatively new technology.

However there is a 4.0L 4 cylinder Integra funny car out there. Of course, you didn't know that. :smiley24:

I kept saying $4,000 because anytime I mentioned something different, you freaked out about it.

NHRA doesn't use 4 bangers because they can't. I mean, even the V8s are rebuilt after EVER race just to be able to race!

No, I didn't know (or care) that there was a 4.0L 4 cylinder. I will say one thing though, the New Nissan GT-R is quite amazing. Granted it's a V6.

 

[Johnny C]

As I said before, sure you can mod a Honda to go fast, but it takes more $$ to do so and the block and seals just can't handle the pressure, so you have to upgrade them basically anytime you increase the pressure in the engine.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

Now you're swapping engines?? What's wrong with the stock engine??? Never said anything about a budget, just proving a point.

2000 lbs 1993 Honda Civic VX hatch back with a D15 = slow.

2000 dollars later I'd have more than doubled my hp, and thrown in a DOHC engine. Better VE, better engine, more room for expansion, better, bigger, stronger block...

 

[TheOriginalJames]

As I said before, sure you can mod a Honda to go fast, but it takes more $$ to do so and the block and seals just can't handle the pressure, so you have to upgrade them basically anytime you increase the pressure in the engine.

You're not getting my point. I'm not going to need more than a 75 shot in a 2000 lb Civic with an engine that pulls 170 hp in the first place.

A 75 shot tuned will not need new seals, and the block will hold up just fine.

 

[Johnny C]

Running what, low 16s?

 

[TheOriginalJames]

I kept saying $4,000 because anytime I mentioned something different, you freaked out about it.

NHRA doesn't use 4 bangers because they can't. I mean, even the V8s are rebuilt after EVER race just to be able to race!

No, I didn't know (or care) that there was a 4.0L 4 cylinder. I will say one thing though, the New Nissan GT-R is quite amazing. Granted it's a V6.

No, it's ugly. It's a fancied up 350Z/G35.

 

[Johnny C]

16s was in response to your engine swap post. No the 75 shot post.

If you want more boost though, you'll most likely need to replace seals and such. 75 boost most likely will not get you into the 14s. If so, high 14s.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

Running what, low 16s?

11s. You should learn something. I spent 3 years on a Mustang board and 2 years on an Fbody board. I know what V8s can do, however I've seen what Civics can pull too.

 

[Johnny C]

No, it's ugly. It's a fancied up 350Z/G35.

I said amazing, not pretty.

 

[Johnny C]

11s. You should learn something. I spent 3 years on a Mustang board and 2 years on an Fbody board. I know what V8s can do, however I've seen what Civics can pull too.

So JUST swapping the engine with 170hp will run 11s?? I think not.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

16s was in response to your engine swap post. No the 75 shot post.

If you want more boost though, you'll most likely need to replace seals and such. 75 boost most likely will not get you into the 14s. If so, high 14s.

Time out... you're talking about my car?

My car is a 15.2-15.3 second car bone stock. You think after a tuned 75 shot I'm going to run a 14.9 or something?

You're joking right? Do you have any idea how well a high compression engine responds to nitrous?

 

[TheOriginalJames]

So JUST swapping the engine with 170hp will run 11s?? I think not.

You didn't read past that part did you?

Allow me to quote myself.

If thats the impression you get about me and my car, then you should probably start paying attention. VTEC is amazing technology, but it's only a minor part of what a cheap 2000 lb Civic will do with a 170 hp $2000 b16a engine swap. Not to mention 600 for a decent turbo, 600 for a turbo timer and the last 400 for misc items and tuning.

 

[Johnny C]

But just before you were talking about a 1993 Civic and an engine swap. Then I said what, running 16s? You said 11s.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

After that, yes.

I don't care what it runs before.

 

[Johnny C]

Ok, things are getting twisted. Not worth it. I know what 4 cylinders can and can't do, as do you. No biggie.

 

[TheOriginalJames]

I really wish you did.