I gotta get some stuff off my chest

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alleycat

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Read it or don't. Doesnt matter to me one way or the other, I just gotta say some things that are really pissin me off.

I tell it like it is. You know that. I know that. If you dont agree with what I say, then so be it. You have a right to disagree. Please, dont attack me personally. It really is inappropriate and quite disrespectful. If you have a problem with the things I say, come talk to me. Dont go running off to mommy and daddy pouting because you dont like me utilizing my freedom of speech. I realize I have some different views on things than alot of people. Im ok with that. Are you?? Are you accepting of other opinions or do you have the blinders on to all things you dont want to see or hear?
You want to hear something scary....? I bet if you grew up and lived in my shoes, you would be exactly the same as me.
Im really not a bad person and Im not here to piss people off. I have my opinions on things and god damn it, Im not going to sugar coat it for someone else so it's easier for them to swallow!
 
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HEAR! HEAR! I'm right besides you, sis!

If no one tells anyone the way it is, people just walk through life in a disillusioned state of being. Tell the truth straight out. That's how I am with my daughter; not mean, but straight out truthful.
 

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I understand the need to be straight forward and truthful. There is nothing wrong with that approach. But if you want to take that stand and walk the path of being blunt, then you need to be able to execute it with tact.
Being able to speak openly here and being able to voice your opinion is a good thing. I don't think you are being picked on for what you said, but how you said it. It's not called "sugar coating" it's called having a little tact and being respectful of others feelings.
 

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Tim phrased it in a good way. Have a little tact. Me personally I have disagreed with a few others on this board before...james included but I dont hold it against anyone. I do agree everyone is entitled to their own opinion...but just realize if someone does not agree with your opinion THEY are entitled to respond back. We are all entitled to get annoyed at things that are said...human right.

I bet if you grew up and lived in my shoes, you would be exactly the same as me.
People go through different things throughout their lives... Just because they dont go through excatally what you have been through...doesnt mean they havent been through alot...it afffects everyone differently...hence causing them all to act/see/say things their own way. You can say things straight out without being offensive to people though.

I will say personally...I had a problem with what you said yesterday....not with you necessarily ...but with what you SAID.

You said yesterday that if i expected my bf to be the bread winner i better be prepared to be beaver cleavers mom. To me that was disrespectful. It made it seem like i do absolutly nothing to deserve a break. Also to refer to children as parasites. That did make me angry...yes even knowing the definition of parasites.

Again I understand that you have your own opinions...just try to understand a little of what a person goes through...have a little respect and tact when you respond.

Ok...im done now.
 

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Sometimes, I have learned, expressing your opinion comes down to .. should you or shouldn't you. If something doesn't concern you and you know expressing your opinion on the matter will upset one or more peoples .. the time comes to decide within yourself .. should I, or shouldn't I. This is especially true if you're saying something wouldn't have mattered in teh first place.

I don't alot, because my inner voices say "Jennie .. I woudn't say that if'n I were you" .. so I don't. And peace and love abound lol.

I usually type out what I want to say .. like I'm actually gonna post it .. then I re-read over it and think that to myself, and usually delete part if not all of it. I feel better having actually gotten it out of my head, and everyone else prolly feels better having not read it lol.

Keeps me out of alot of trouble this does. :)
 

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Sometimes, I have learned, expressing your opinion comes down to .. should you or shouldn't you. If something doesn't concern you and you know expressing your opinion on the matter will upset one or more peoples .. the time comes to decide within yourself .. should I, or shouldn't I. This is especially true if you're saying something wouldn't have mattered in teh first place.

I don't alot, because my inner voices say "Jennie .. I woudn't say that if'n I were you" .. so I don't. And peace and love abound lol.

I usually type out what I want to say .. like I'm actually gonna post it .. then I re-read over it and think that to myself, and usually delete part if not all of it. I feel better having actually gotten it out of my head, and everyone else prolly feels better having not read it lol.

Keeps me out of alot of trouble this does. :)

Im the same exact way. Thats one thing that my mom and dad were really strict on as I was growing up and the same thing I am trying to instill on my kids. Think before you speak. If you even have the slightest notion that it might make someone upset or hurt someones feelings, maybe you shouldnt even say anything at all.
 

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Oh... well... I didn't read it, I just saw the title
I gotta get some stuff off my chest

So I wandered in hoping you were talking about your top & bra. :(

Pardon me while I back on outta the thread. I'll read it later when I catch up on everything else. :)
 

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Sometimes, I have learned, expressing your opinion comes down to .. should you or shouldn't you. If something doesn't concern you and you know expressing your opinion on the matter will upset one or more peoples .. the time comes to decide within yourself .. should I, or shouldn't I. This is especially true if you're saying something wouldn't have mattered in teh first place.

I don't alot, because my inner voices say "Jennie .. I woudn't say that if'n I were you" .. so I don't. And peace and love abound lol.

I usually type out what I want to say .. like I'm actually gonna post it .. then I re-read over it and think that to myself, and usually delete part if not all of it. I feel better having actually gotten it out of my head, and everyone else prolly feels better having not read it lol.

Keeps me out of alot of trouble this does. :)

Yep very well put.. Just because you have an opinion does not always mean it needs to be expressed.

And if it does need to be expressed then there are tactful ways to express it.

Ali you said if people lived your life they would be the same way, And yet often your replys to not give them credit to their lives and thier experiances. you may not agree with them, and have your thoughts about it, But sometimes its knowing the person, and the situation. More then just "in your own experiance"
 

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Personally I have gotten along with you well in the past, ali. I have tried to counsel you through certain things, and I guess I kind of gave up on you after I realized that there was a pattern developing. I just personally don't give you any credibility when it comes to giving advice on relationships, or "raining on my parade" so to speak, when it is you that seems to have the crazy short lived unstable relationships. I am not trying to attack you or anything, but post after post you have made condescending comments towards others and even hurt my feelings. I have come to you before, but it hasn't stopped. I just think you need to learn to think before you speak sometimes. So you wanted blunt, I was being very blunt here, and honest with you. I forsee you getting pretty upset with me over this, but at this point I don't really care. If you want to move on and grow from this experience, then I support you in that and that's fine. But if you are going to get really upset and defensive over people calling you out because of rude comments you've made, then maybe you need to look in the mirror and try to put yourself in check a little bit. Sorry if I'm being rude, but I am only being honest here with you, and that seems to be what you want, so here it is.
 

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Sorry if this sounds harsh but you did say you like brutal honesty so here goes. Yes, I understand you have been through some bad experiences but there is no need to excuse your behaviour on that. You don't know what other people have been through in their lives. I personally have been through some serious shit which is so painful I don't like to talk about it. The thing is you can either be a victim all your life or you can be a fighter and try to move on. I don't care what your experiences are, there's no need to call someones kids parasites, that's just downright rude and disrespectful. I'm not trying to make an enemy of you here, I have got on very well with you and have tried to be supportive of you as best as I can on a forum. Now I hope we can all put this little episode to bed and move on with no hard feeling. This is a really friendly forum and I'd hate to see it change because people hold grudges. Thankyou.:)
 

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Resident, a person who has residency somewhere (as in inhabitant, whether as a citizen or not).
Bimbo is a term that emerged in popular English language usage in the late 20th Century to describe an often attractive, yet stupid, pliable womanBeing a bimbo is a state of mind, and reflects a person who exaggerates the effort and value put into her physical attractiveness.
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Nice Ali, thats real mature,how about stopping the name calling now. You want to talk about how you feel disrespected because others dont agree with your opinions and they are judging you for them and then this is how you respond by making round-about name calling remarks. You are very entitled to your opinions and actually this forum welcomes them, but as stated before they need to be done tactfully. Now you are just becoming immature and childish about this. I expected more than that from a woman who says she prides herself on being a confident and professional woman maybe I was wrong.
 

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Ok this is turning into another JT vs James thing. Ali hasnt yet come out calling anyone names yet, though insinuating is pretty close.

Audra said:
Nice Ali, thats real mature,how about stopping the name calling now. You want to talk about how you feel disrespected because others dont agree with your opinions and they are judging you for them and then this is how you respond by making round-about name calling remarks. You are very entitled to your opinions and actually this forum welcomes them, but as stated before they need to be done tactfully. Now you are just becoming immature and childish about this. I expected more than that from a woman who says she prides herself on being a confident and professional woman maybe I was wrong.

This is all that needed to be said, and Ali, please take this to heart. You are welcome here, I think you are a good person. You have stated your opinion on many things here, and everyone understands. They may not agree, but at least they understand.

Personally, im sick of the fricken conflict between people here. Just because someone disagrees with you or doesnt take some advice doesnt mean you have to take it any farther.

Can we stop beating this dead horse now??
 

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wtf... name calling??? since when?? did i miss something? it was a damn joke that I said I WAS GOING TO BE THE RESIDENT BIMBO....
I think I have missed something here....
 

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My advice, grow up and think before you speak. I'm blunt and to the point also, which i've learned pisses a lot of people off. But i've also learned to hold my opinion when I have nothing positive or important to contribute to the conversation.
 
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