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The Kingdom in the Closet

Sodomy is punishable by death in Saudi Arabia, but gay life flourishes there. Why it is “easier to be gay than straight” in a society where everyone, homosexual and otherwise, lives in the closet
By Nadya Labi


''Notorious for its adherence to Wahhabism, a puritanical strain of Islam, and as the birthplace of most of the 9/11 hijackers, Saudi Arabia is the only Arab country that claims sharia, or Islamic law, as its sole legal code. The list of prohibitions is long: It’s haram—forbidden—to smoke, drink, go to discos, or mix with an unrelated person of the opposite gender. The rules are enforced by the mutawwa'in, religious authorities employed by the government’s Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and Prevention of Vice.
The kingdom is dominated by mosques and malls, which the mutawwa'in patrol in leather sandals and shortened versions of the thawb, the traditional ankle-length white robe that many Saudis wear. Some mutawwa'ineven bear marks of their devotion on their faces; they bow to God so adamantly that pressing their foreheads against the ground leaves a visible dent. The mutawwa'in prod shoppers to say their devotions when the shops close for prayer, several times daily. If they catch a boy and a girl on a date, they might haul the couple to the police station. They make sure that single men steer clear of the malls, which are family-only zones for the most part, unless they are with a female relative. Though the power of the mutawwa'in has been curtailed recently, their presence still inspires fear.
In Saudi Arabia, sodomy is punishable by death. Though that penalty is seldom applied, just this February a man in the Mecca region was executed for having sex with a boy, among other crimes. (For this reason, the names of most people in this story have been changed.) Ask many Saudis about homosexuality, and they’ll wince with repugnance. “I disapprove,” Rania, a 32-year-old human-resources manager, told me firmly. “Women weren’t meant to be with women, and men aren’t supposed to be with men.”
This legal and public condemnation notwithstanding, the kingdom leaves considerable space for homosexual behavior. As long as gays and lesbians maintain a public front of obeisance to Wahhabist norms, they are left to do what they want in private. Vibrant communities of men who enjoy sex with other men can be found in cosmopolitan cities like Jeddah and Riyadh. They meet in schools, in cafés, in the streets, and on the Internet. “You can be cruised anywhere in Saudi Arabia, any time of the day,” said Radwan, a 42-year-old gay Saudi American who grew up in various Western cities and now lives in Jeddah. “They’re quite shameless about it.” Talal, a Syrian who moved to Riyadh in 2000, calls the Saudi capital a “gay heaven.”


Keep reading here......http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2007/05/the-kingdom-in-the-closet/5774/
 
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Very rampant in Islamic nations.


All because sex outside of marriage is "very bad"..but the gay guys are not getting married..so its still sex outside of marriage....but it is overlooked
Explains the high incidence of animal sex as well...better to fuck an animal than to fuck a woman you are not married too.
Makes one really appreciate the west.


The thread below explains in better detail
http://www.offtopicz.net/threads/why-pakistan-has-an-extremely-high-gay-population.78248/
 

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you ought to go there and find out....Saudies love White American Men!!
What do I say when I arrive?..Do you know Mazhur Butt from Pakistan?
It appears as if you have been to SA due to your knowledge of Saudis being attracted to white American men..Since you are from the gay mega city of the world there in PK why would you want to travel to another gay capital?..not much of a vacation unless you are looking for gay sex IMO.
 

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you ought to go there and find out....Saudies love White American Men!!
What do I say when I arrive?..Do you know Mazhur Butt from Pakistan?
It appears as if you have been to SA due to your knowledge of Saudis being attracted to white American men..Since you are from the gay mega city of the world there in PK why would you want to travel to another gay capital?..not much of a vacation unless you are looking for gay sex IMO.
 

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What do I say when I arrive?..Do you know Mazhur Butt from Pakistan?
It appears as if you have been to SA due to your knowledge of Saudis being attracted to white American men..Since you are from the gay mega city of the world there in PK why would you want to travel to another gay capital?..not much of a vacation unless you are looking for gay sex IMO.


Truly speaking the Arabs like white skin more than any other ,,,and they would be highly pleased to have you as their 'special guest'.
I have no need to go to Saudia,,,why should I go there when you know ,,,there is enough material in the US to enjoy. Even the black burly dog had his time with a white woman,,,,why can't a human being too have good time in your great country>>>??
I have been to the US ,,,,,and know how to seek pleasure there....moreover, homosexuality is allowed in the US therefore you have no right to object to it if this disease gets rampant elsewhere,,,,,,

BTW i haven't found any case of gay fucking in Pak yet.....however will look around to see if there is any,
 

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Truly speaking the Arabs like white skin more than any other ,,,and they would be highly pleased to have you as their 'special guest'.
It was my understanding that much of the Mid East hated white people...you have even stated such yourself.
So what kind of treatment does a special guest receive Maz?

there is enough material in the US to enjoy. Even the black burly dog had his time with a white woman
America has so much more to offer than an occasional freaky white woman making porn with animals...personally I find it disgusting..and would be a reason I would not visit rather a reason to visit.

why can't a human being too have good time in your great country>>>?
We do all the time...America is about freedom not century old ideals which abuses large groups


moreover, homosexuality is allowed in the US therefore you have no right to object to it if this disease gets rampant elsewher
Two consenting people can do as they wish..not that I really approve but it is their business..essentially a victimless crime so to say ,let them do as they wish.

BTW i haven't found any case of gay fucking in Pak yet.....however will look around to see if there is any
It was exposed in another thread that homosexuality is very high in PK due to the draconian culture itself
 

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It was my understanding that much of the Mid East hated white people...you have even stated such yourself.
So what kind of treatment does a special guest receive Maz?


America has so much more to offer than an occasional freaky white woman making porn with animals...personally I find it disgusting..and would be a reason I would not visit rather a reason to visit.


We do all the time...America is about freedom not century old ideals which abuses large groups



Two consenting people can do as they wish..not that I really approve but it is their business..essentially a victimless crime so to say ,let them do as they wish.


It was exposed in another thread that homosexuality is very high in PK due to the draconian culture itself


You Americans are the pioneers of all evil which you take as virtue in the name of freedom.....you must be crazy!

Homosexuality is common to all places,,in varying degrees. No proper stats are available but with YOu the Americans it is Kosher! You have no right to complain about an act which YOu the Americans have legalized and think as proper unless you are a hypocrite and a liar,
 

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You Americans are the pioneers of all evil which you take as virtue in the name of freedom.....you must be crazy!

Homosexuality is common to all places,,in varying degrees. No proper stats are available but with YOu the Americans it is Kosher! You have no right to complain about an act which YOu the Americans have legalized and think as proper unless you are a hypocrite and a liar,

Actually we are a fairly modern nation...evil is unequal rights..selling your children or stoning a person because he is gay..Death sentences for Christians drinking from unmarked cups..Charging nine month old babies with conspiracy to commit murder.
See Maz you try to condone the practices of your culture,by trying to find faults with others.
 

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Actually we are a fairly modern nation...evil is unequal rights..selling your children or stoning a person because he is gay..Death sentences for Christians drinking from unmarked cups..Charging nine month old babies with conspiracy to commit murder.
See Maz you try to condone the practices of your culture,by trying to find faults with others.


All you stated is FALSE..
Nobody in Pakistan hates Christians or any other Minority. they are treated as equal and all drink from the same cup.
Nobody hates gays....but sodomy is looked down with abhorence despite it does exist there secretly.
Violation of blasphemy law entails punishment but no Christian has yet been hanged for his crime. Mostly Muslims are in jail for committing balsphemy, so you must rest assure non Muslims are better off with us here!
Babies are immune from law...if you heard any such news that must be a joke,,,,

Crime, culture and religion cannot be confused, America is not free from crime..and for that I won't blame the Christians , Jews or the Atheists.
 
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