Is a war on "terror" winnable?

[mazHur]

No......Tim was a liberal, but he started this thread in 2005 when Iraq was the problem, not Afg or Pakistan.
Iraq was a different situation. Iraq hadn't invaded or supported aggression against the US, but we now know Pakistan did.
Iraq became a Civil War after Bush tore it up.
The US made a horrible mistake being distracted in Iraq and the real enemies, al Qaeda, the Taliban regrouped and expanded their influence.
There is simply no comparison of the Middle East in 2005 to today.
Terrorists in Pk are inplace to take over the PK nuclear arsenals. Iraq had no WMDs.
I was also one of those that argued Bush's war on terror was futile. It was. We are living the results and it's difficult to correct and correction will not come by the US surrendering.
It will only come with the defeat of al Qaeda and it's ally, the Taliban because of Pk's stupidity of putting it's nuclear arsenal at risk.

You are a pathetic propagandist.


You know nothing. You are mazHur



It could happen.
But.
If those terrorists do get those nukes, you are going to glow....and you will have brought that upon yourselves.

I can see you think you are a know-all..huh!
You are as ignorant as those who prophesied that Iraq had WMD's in the past.
You are just an ugly TROLL!!

I will make your days and nights miserable for you
Fling you into sleepless nights
and make you pee in your pants

 

[The Man]

Terrorists are nobody's friends...first of all they will screw you then the others

The why does PK sponsor them?

 

[Stone]

Terrorists are nobody's friends...first of all they will screw you then the others. But in any case you could be their choicest 'fruit cake'!

You have shown support for the Taliban by your own words at this web site and denied al Qaeda even exists.

 

[The Man]

I can see you think you are a know-all..huh!
You are as ignorant as those who prophesied that Iraq had WMD's in the past.
You are just an ugly TROLL!!

I will make your days and nights miserable for you
Fling you into sleepless nights
and make you pee in your pants

Are you ignorant?
He did not approve of the Iraq invasion..he has stated that several times in several threads.

 

[Stone]

I can see you think you are a know-all..huh!
You are as ignorant as those who prophesied that Iraq had WMD's in the past.
You are just an ugly TROLL!!

I will make your days and nights miserable for you
Fling you into sleepless nights
and make you pee in your pants

mazHur the
jihad wuss!

 

[Stone]

Are you ignorant?
He did not approve of the Iraq invasion..he has stated that several times in several threads.

Hell, I wrote at least a 100k words against Bush and his Iraqi invasion at that other forum.
I even pointed out Afg was being ignored and was going to become a worse problem.

And here we are now with a wuss of a President that's made bad decisions compounding what Bush left him to deal with!

 

[Stone]

I can see you think you are a know-all..huh!
You are as ignorant as those who prophesied that Iraq had WMD's in the past.
You are just an ugly TROLL!!

I will make your days and nights miserable for you
Fling you into sleepless nights
and make you pee in your pants

Just want to report I had a very restful night.
Went to sleep with a smile and woke up this morning laughing

Thanks for the laugh

 

[darkcgi]

You cannot defeat terrorism but you can at least keep it at a minimum
There is always going to be someone or something that some or many are effected either positively or negatively and there
is nothing that will ever completely stop it

 

[The Man]

You cannot defeat terrorism but you can at least keep it at a minimum
There is always going to be someone or something that some or many are effected either positively or negatively and there
is nothing that will ever completely stop it

This.^^^^

 

[Stone]

You cannot defeat terrorism but you can at least keep it at a minimum
There is always going to be someone or something that some or many are effected either positively or negatively and there
is nothing that will ever completely stop it

Agreed.

 

[mazHur]

Glad to see Stone agreeing with DarkCgi at last!!
And obviously she is very right!

Hey, didn't the Yanks say they had settled matters in Iraq!

In Focus: Iraqi Insurgents Capture Northern Cities, Move Toward Baghdad (click)
The attackers overran a military base, freed hundreds of prisoners, and have seized the Turkish consulate in Mosul, capturing and holding 50 Turkish citizens.

 

[Stone]

Glad to see Stone agreeing with DarkCgi at last!!
And obviously she is very right!

Hey, didn't the Yanks say they had settled matters in Iraq!

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The attackers overran a military base, freed hundreds of prisoners, and have seized the Turkish consulate in Mosul, capturing and holding 50 Turkish citizens.

Glad to see Stone agreeing with DarkCgi at last!!

That's always been my position.

Hey, didn't the Yanks say they had settled matters in Iraq!

I think Bush might have.
But as you can seen on your news ......Iraq is being Invaded by by forces out of Syria and likely to eventually be divided into 3 new nations.
Not surprising that Iraq is falling. Bush tore it up and destabilized the general area.

The attackers overran a military base, freed hundreds of prisoners, and have seized the Turkish consulate in Mosul, capturing and holding 50 Turkish citizens

It's expected to get messy, quickly.
Kurds want a section, Sunnis want control and are the current driving force (ISIS) of the invasion and Iran has an investment in Maliki from a Shia angle.

Meanwhile, Obama is saying he's not made any decisions on what to do, if anything.

 

[mazHur]

That's always been my position.



I think Bush might have.
But as you can seen on your news ......Iraq is being Invaded by by forces out of Syria and likely to eventually be divided into 3 new nations.
Not surprising that Iraq is falling. Bush tore it up and destabilized the general area.


It's expected to get messy, quickly.
Kurds want a section, Sunnis want control and are the current driving force (ISIS) of the invasion and Iran has an investment in Maliki from a Shia angle.

Meanwhile, Obama is saying he's not made any decisions on what to do, if anything.

Ha! First you destroy then ask people to DIY! Nice way to secure your interests in other places..

Obama is primarily concerned about his 'own interests' rather than the slaughter of humans or humanity. Soo sad, isn't it?

Obama says chaos in Iraq could endanger U.S. interests

In an appearance at the White House, President Obama said he is reviewing options on ways the United States might help the deteriorating situation in Iraq, and that U.S. interests could be endangered. He said U.S. ground troops will not be sent, adding that ultimately, it is up to the Iraqis to solve their problems.

Read more at:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/kerry-says-us-will-act-soon-on-iraq-but-at-request-of-baghdad-government/2014/06/13/53ddc5f0-f2f9-11e3-9ebc-2ee6f81ed217_story.html?hpid=z2

 

[Stone]

Ha! First you destroy then ask people to DIY! Nice way to secure your interests in other places..

Obama is primarily concerned about his 'own interests' rather than the slaughter of humans or humanity. Soo sad, isn't it?
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There is no 'you' if you are addressing me.


I agree Obama is only concerned about his own interests, socialism and spreading the wealth with a large dose of corruption...............that's also his domestic policy.

 

[mazHur]

Obama doesn't want possibly heavy American casualties...

Obama says U.S. will not send troops to Iraq
The U.S. president said that he would review military options in the days ahead and that there needed to be a “serious and sincere effort” by Iraq’s leaders to promote stability.
Collapse of Iraqi army a failure for premier, U.S. military
Observers say Maliki focused on neutralizing political rivals instead of insurgents.

 

[Stone]

Glad to see Stone agreeing with DarkCgi at last!!
And obviously she is very right!................

darkcgi is a guy.

 

[KingKong]

You cannot defeat terrorism but you can at least keep it at a minimum

Completely agree, same applies to crime etc. Unfortunately this is easier said than done especially since it involves religion and that's a delicate matter to approach so it has to be done carefully.

 

[Stone]

Completely agree, same applies to crime etc. Unfortunately this is easier said than done especially since it involves religion and that's a delicate matter to approach so it has to be done carefully.

If you are referring to al Qaeda and the Taliban, that's not really a case of a 'war on terror'.
It's a war with terrorists.
It's a war that terrorists started with the US and became a war on anyone that wasn't aligned with al Qaeda and the Taliban.

 

[mazHur]

Hell, I wrote at least a 100k words against Bush and his Iraqi invasion at that other forum.
I even pointed out Afg was being ignored and was going to become a worse problem.

And here we are now with a wuss of a President that's made bad decisions compounding what Bush left him to deal with!

You are a nut!

 

[mazHur]

If you are referring to al Qaeda and the Taliban, that's not really a case of a 'war on terror'.
It's a war with terrorists.
It's a war that terrorists started with the US and became a war on anyone that wasn't aligned with al Qaeda and the Taliban.

Wonder WTF have you gained? Fear, intolerance and hate?