I'm a cruel man

[Joe the meek]

My 7 year old son was losing at checkers today.

He offered me a dollar if I let him slide on a move and if I still won.

That one dollar worked it's way up to $30.

I went upstairs with him to his wallet and he counted out most of his chores money. 2.5 months of work down the drain for him.

Felt bad, but man, sooner or later I really hope he learns a lesson.

 

[Springsteen]

Beautiful.

 

[Catavenger]

remind me not to play checkers with you

 

[Francis]

OK so in 2.5 months , come back and tell us who really won..

 

[Joe the meek]

OK so in 2.5 months , come back and tell us who really won..

I did, really

I've got to give him credit though, he's not falling for fools mate anymore in chess LMAO

At dinner tonight his brother told me that he learned his lesson and never will bet with me again. That said, he's not as competitive which I think is this other ones undoing at timeslol

 

[Francis]

I did, really

I've got to give him credit though, he's not falling for fools mate anymore in chess LMAO

At dinner tonight his brother told me that he learned his lesson and never will bet with me again. That said, he's not as competitive which I think is this other ones undoing at timeslol

Yah but time is on his side.. And you can't be over him 24/7..

Again out of curiosity get back to us in 2.5 months.. Hard to judge on the first day.. lol

 

[Joe the meek]

Yah but time is on his side.. And you can't be over him 24/7..

Since he has a habbit of betting and losing agasint me all the time, the intent is to teach him a lesson now when he's 7, that the house usually wins in the long run with gambling, and the odds are that if you bet, sooner or later your going to lose your hard earned money. He lost $30 now, in 20 years if he loses 30 grand, at least I know I tried.

That said, my mom has rubbed off on me. He doesn't know it, but that $30 will come back to him for Christmas, but since his money is already "gone", I'm going to offer him the choice to donate it to some child that REALLY needs if for Christmas.

I'm hoping he will become a better man than myself when he grows up

 

[darkcgi]

My 7 year old son was losing at checkers today.

He offered me a dollar if I let him slide on a move and if I still won.

That one dollar worked it's way up to $30.


I went upstairs with him to his wallet and he counted out most of his chores money. 2.5 months of work down the drain for him.

Felt bad, but man, sooner or later I really hope he learns a lesson.

You should have pretended to take the money just long enough that he thinks you are going to keep it
then come to him and explain some things about people and money
what to do and what not to do
and give him his money back
at this point there has been little to no learning he will probably hold some type of feelings in side and let it boil (not good)

 

[Francis]

I'm hoping he will become a better man than myself when he grows up

We all do Joe.. :thumbup

 

[Joe the meek]

You should have pretended to take the money just long enough that he thinks you are going to keep it
then come to him and explain some things about people and money
what to do and what not to do
and give him his money back
at this point there has been little to no learning he will probably hold some type of feelings in side and let it boil (not good)

Hmmm... so if a man makes a bet with you on a football game for $300 and he loses, you'll end up giving him his money back explaining some things "about people and money" to him?

I explained to him (the son) why what he was doing (escalating his wager during the game) was wrong, and that he was only trying to break even by possbily going deeper into the hole, and that I WOULD take his money if he lost. This if the first time he lost this large amount of money (usually it's for one or two dollars), and if it happens again, I'll rethink my strategy.

The problem with parents letting thier children off with the choices they (the child) make is that IMO it happens all too often, and as the child grows up they think they don't have to be held responsible for their actions due to having their parents make their (the childs) mistakes "right".

My kids know when I tell them something, they better believe it.

 

[darkcgi]

hmmm ... so if the kid was your own kid and not considered a man. hmmmm

My Dad was real strict on me till I was face to face with him and shot a right punch to the front windshield of car and I didn't even blink.
It was 2 ply glass back then. He had came up to me with a large metal chain wrapped around his fist like ghost rider
I didn't want to hit him just wanted him to know why
we are pals now after high school

 

[Joe the meek]

hmmm ... so if the kid was your own kid and not considered a man. hmmmm

One of the better child rearing training classes I took stressed the point that children DO need to be held accountable for their actions, and they should realize the consequences (and suffer them as long as it doesn't cause physical harm) if those actions could be detrimental to themselves or to others.

My son knew if he was betting his own money, he knew he ran the risk of losing that money if he lost his own bet. He lost his own wager, so he lost the money. I am not going to reward him (by letting him keep his money) for doing something that shows a lack of intelligence.

They can spend their money anyway they please. They have already learned that it's better to save and have more money in hand than buy anything they want for immediate pleasure. My son spent his money as he pleased placing his wager, and he realizes this now. I believe my point has been made, but well see if he wants to place any more bets down the road lol

 

[Francis]

The problem with parents letting thier children off with the choices they (the child) make is that IMO it happens all too often, and as the child grows up they think they don't have to be held responsible for their actions due to having their parents make their (the childs) mistakes "right".

This is part of the problem with most parents.. They believe that letting a child "off" once is OK.. Problem is the child just found a weakness and will now cultivate this to their advantage.. Every mistake you make with a child takes a minimum 4 firm corrections to resolve the issue. Some will keep at it much longer.. Parent infighting can create even worse problems and is a big reason why one parent needs to support the other.

My kids know when I tell them something, they better believe it.

Same with me.. When I say something, I mean it.. But it works both ways.. If I promise something good, I never let them down.. Lead by example..

 

[Francis]

hmmm ... so if the kid was your own kid and not considered a man. hmmmm

My Dad was real strict on me till I was face to face with him and shot a right punch to the front windshield of car and I didn't even blink.
It was 2 ply glass back then. He had came up to me with a large metal chain wrapped around his fist like ghost rider
I didn't want to hit him just wanted him to know why
we are pals now after high school

Your mixing up stubborn and being firm and consistent..

Many people claim to be firm under the guise of being stubborn. They lack the skill of knowing how to get kids to do things without acting tough..

 

[Joe the meek]

Same with me.. When I say something, I mean it.. But it works both ways.. If I promise something good, I never let them down.. Lead by example..

That's the hard part. Holding yourself to the same standards you hold your children to LOL

I would be lying if I didn't say my wife had to remind me of that from time to time due to my own actions.

 

[unitnum1]

Sounds like a good lesson for the boy!

 

[bananaking]

My son is always trying to make a bet with me, most of the time he will win the bet, i learn not to accept any more from him. lol