6 Things You Didn't Know About Skim Milk

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Dana

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Milk is an excellent source of calcium, essential in the prevention of osteoporosis. It would be a shame if the snivelling hippies managed to convince an aging population that they'd be better off with brittle bones.

5-4-3-2-1... You're on ignore.
 
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Milk is an excellent source of calcium, essential in the prevention of osteoporosis. It would be a shame if the snivelling hippies managed to convince an aging population that they'd be better off with brittle bones.

Aside from the health benefits it tastes great
 

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I like how milk is like the only source of calcium on planet Earth... :tooth Oh wait....
http://dairyfreecooking.about.com/od/dairyfreebasics/tp/CalciumFoods.htm

Sorry if the facts don't coincide with the scribblings of unqualified scaremongers, dana, but try to keep it in perspective.

If you can show me where I have said milk is like the only source of calcium on planet Earth I'll gladly buy you all the feelgood overpriced pseudo-ethical food that you want. If you can't by all means feel free to keep me on ignore, and take your nonsensical cut/pastes with you.
 

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Sorry if the facts don't coincide with the scribblings of unqualified scaremongers, dana, but try to keep it in perspective.

If you can show me where I have said milk is like the only source of calcium on planet Earth I'll gladly buy you all the feelgood overpriced pseudo-ethical food that you want. If you can't by all means feel free to keep me on ignore, and take your nonsensical cut/pastes with you.
You yourself made that assertion when using osteoporosis and brittle bones as an excuse to drink milk but I'm sure you didn't even bother to read the link that I just supplied which states that pasteurized milk has less calcium than a lot of vegetables and almonds. I do not know why I am even bothering. It's only nonsensical to a closed minded individual.
 

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Sorry, Dana, I know I give you a hard time sometimes...but sometimes you make it SO easy. How's that ignore button working??? :24:
 

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You yourself made that assertion when using osteoporosis and brittle bones as an excuse to drink milk..........

Ho hum.

Where to start, without risking an infraction?

How about...if you're going to put words into my mouth, can you please find some smarter ones? The half-baked lies you are currently using are unpalatable.

You're making the same elementary errors of logic that your friend the snivelling hippy makes in her steaming pile of dog ordure.

Nowhere did I say milk is like the only source of calcium on planet Earth and the fact that I didn't list every single alternative source of calcium in order of absorbable content does not alter the fact that milk is a good source of calcium. If you've got some scientific facts to back up the snivelling hippy's opinion piece it would be far more credible for you to present them than simply shooting at the messenger who points out how lacking in facts and scientific evidence her whiny little diatribe is.

I'm disappointed at the youth of today.The Playstation generation seem happy to jump onto whatever bandwagon they consider to be fashionable without first checking to see if the bandwagon has any wheels supporting it.

. I do not know why I am even bothering.

Neither do I. The dimwit who wrote your half-baked cut/paste has no qualifications.Don't believe everything that you read on the internet Dana, you'll end up looking foolish.
 

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Sorry, Dana, I know I give you a hard time sometimes...but sometimes you make it SO easy. How's that ignore button working??? :24:

Not very well. But I've said my peace on that issue in the past :p I really don't mind. I do it to myself.
 

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I believe I'm supposed to be offended by this, but seriously? too busy laughing.

I'll declare an interest here, I work in the dairy industry.

Let's look at some of the claims that you make.

Yes we're in the business of making money.That's how the world works.

How do we do it? We make what people want to buy. Again, that's how the world works.

Would it be a good idea for us to poison our customers? Probably not. If they're dead, they can't buy more. Again, that's how the world works.

Is it a good business to be in? Bloody oath it is. Thanks to continuous research and development, plain old milk can be turned into all manner of things.

What's one of the biggest products of the dairy industry? Tax dollars. If we're that evil, better stop taking the benefits that we pump back into the economy from all of our hard work.

Looking at the site that you cut/pasted this drivel from, there's a disclaimer.

http://butterbeliever.com/aboutme/disclaimer/

The author has no qualifications.

We're experts at what we do. There are numerous government agencies that monitor and control the way in which we do it.

In short, we provide an excellent lifestyle for thousands of families by working the land and adding value to create products that people want, at prices they are prepared to pay. In doing so, we pump billions of dollars into the rural economy, and billions more into the tax reserves.

If you are in any way concerned about what we make, or how it's made, don't buy it. There's more demand than supply, you will not be missed.

One small favour I would ask in return - before you cut/paste the sanctimonious drivel of an activist, read it right through,ask critical questions, look for any hard evidence sources. Read the full website and see if there is any evidence that she has the qualifications to back up her conspiracy theories.


Alright so here is an honest question. Because I've tried Googling but haven't gotten very far yet. You're NZ right? I know different countries have different food regulations. So perhaps, your country manufactures dairy products differently. You cannot clearly speak on a country's practices that you do not even have residency in. I'll keep believing in my "conspiracy theories" as you call them. They serve my healthier lifestyle well.
 

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If you don't like the content of my threads you can unsubscribe to them. If I see a thread I don't like I do not go in it.
 

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You cannot clearly speak on a country's practices that you do not even have residency in. .

Dana... the internet reaches New Zealand, I promise you. If you use it correctly, you can look up pretty much anything. Once you've looked it up, you can cross-check the claims, assess the credentials of the author, and come to an informed decision as to whether the article is factual, or simply what you want to hear.

Or you can just copy/paste tripe from a snivelling hippy with no qualifications because it bolsters your need to be seen as trendy.

As for not posting in a thread which basically slanders an industry that I've worked in since 2001 - forget it. I don't intend to let an ignorant hipster misrepresent the hard work of the agricultural sector simply because it's too mainstream for his liking.
 

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If you don't like the content of my threads you can unsubscribe to them. If I see a thread I don't like I do not go in it.

If you don't like being told that the author of your cut/pastes has no qualifications, find better sources. If you persist in repeating lazy nonsense from ignorant hippies, I'll continue to point out the obvious.
 

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I honestly didnt know the subject of milk was such a hot button issue....where have i been! LOL

I was just contributing to the food forum and my thoughts on the issue. I didn't know everyone who had opinions on a subject or food had to have a PhD. Apparently I was wrong :24:
 

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I want to ask the same question but with a few expletives that would get me banned. :ninja I can't even talk like a human being to this a-hole.
Oh the irony. I'm an asshole for simply pointing out that the source of your information is totally lacking in credibility.
I've also pointed out that other sources are giving balanced information with properly documented scientific argument both for and against the proposition, supported by experts and scholars.

I'm going to have fun dismantling this bimbo's arguments one by one.

1. It was designed to profit off of you, not make you healthy.
Correct!
Well, who would have thought that all of that infrastructure and processing equipment would have been built for charitable purposes? Nobody, it's capitalism101. Except maybe to hippies. Nobody grows food with the sole intention of magically 'making you healthy'. Not even the poseurs in the organics industry.Ever noticed how much more organic food costs?That's because the organic food industry wants profit, just the same as anyone else. Try living on nothing but organic squash...it will make you unhealthy, unless consumed as part of a balanced diet.

It all started with a flawed theory by a really bad scientist who said that saturated fat and cholesterol cause heart disease Is this a structured argument? Does your writer not know how to include facts to back up her story, or is she more experienced in writing elementary school essays?

2. It’s got a mystery ingredient they’re not telling you about.
The 'mystery' ingredient is milk.Seriously.

3. It contains antibiotics, nasty bodily fluids, and GMOs

The first sentence of this paragraph makes little sense.
Water downstream of a factory farm in Idaho, where animals are generally knee-deep in their own waste.
That's because in Dana's haste co cut/paste and spew all of this nonsense, he left the photo out. to the trained eye, the photo is of a settling pond, where waste water is treated before being dischared. Oddly enough, there's no photographic evidence of animals knee deep in their own waste - More dramatic hippy nonsense.

The next bit - somehow changing from grass to grain necessitates pumping cows full of antibiotics? Guess what....we feed our cows 100% grass, and they still need antibiotics. This woman really needs to go back and learn the facts instead of making shit up. Pretty much every farm animal needs antibiotics care at some stage, as do humans. Antibiotics exist to stop us from dying of minor ailments.

The FDA allows up to 750 million pus cells per liter of milk, to be sold legally.

Lovely line this. I'd love to see where it is written in FDA regulations, but I doubt that they refer to 'pus'. It will most likely be impurities,largely consisting of other organic matter.Technically it could include pus,so let's pretend that the whole impurity content is pus because it sounds so much nastier. Lets also be sure not to highlight the term 'up to'. 750 million in bold lettering looks much more convincing. Also the omission of any reference to pasteurisation as listed in the FDA requirements would allow the gullible to believe that they're being sold bottles of toxic substance.

4. It’s provides almost no nutritional value.
LOL again, no data to back this line up.Here's some that says this silly woman needs to go back to school.




Optimum health:



Weight gain:



The good: This food is low in Saturated Fat and Cholesterol. It is also a good source of Vitamin A, Vitamin B12 and Potassium, and a very good source of Protein, Vitamin D, Riboflavin, Calcium and Phosphorus.

The bad: A large portion of the calories in this food come from sugars.



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see the link? it's called 'source'. There's no source data in the hippie's article.

5. It won’t make or keep you skinny.
well duh. even drinking water will not 'make you skinny'. You have to reduce calorie consumption, and exercise, to achieve that.

6. It won’t help you avoid heart disease

Again, no source references to this paragraph, which appears to be written like a children's storybook.


Let's see what the experts

say shall we? I'll even go to a neutral source for you.

It is recommended that for Australians over 2 years old, reduced-fat varieties of dairy foods (including milk) should be chosen where possible, in the Australian Dietary Guidelines.

Where does this pearl of wisdom come from?Some bored housewife's blog? nope.....

http://www.heartfoundation.org.au/healthy-eating/food-and-nutrition-facts/Pages/dairy.aspx






Dana, face it mate. This whole pile of crap is a beat-up, designed to appeal to the vanity of those who consider themselves too special for mainstream products. Like every other food product dairy can be bad for you if not used as part of a balanced diet, but that's no reason to start a witch hunt, and a very poorly written witch hunt at that.

I look forward to your next cut paste fiasco.
 

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I was just contributing to the food forum and my thoughts on the issue. I didn't know everyone who had opinions on a subject or food had to have a PhD. Apparently I was wrong :24:

As I said, I have an interest in this industry. I don't like this kind of dishonest spin. If you think that conventional foods are bad, by all means choose something with a label that you like, but this kind of ill-informed slander is offensive to those who work in the industry and know the truth.

Perhaps I can offer a comparison.

There's no shortage of redneck Libertarians out there who see welfare and disability as an abomination riddled with fraudsters and layabouts.
I don't believe it myself, but I'm sure that if someone were to start a thread saying that it was so, and offering up some shabby hillbilly's blog as 'evidence', you'd pick the holes out of it until it showed for what it was.

It's clear from your many posts on this board that you see yourself as an individual with a strong identity and disdain for all things 'mainstream'. That's your right, all I ask is that rather than copy/paste very poorly written slander to try and justify your stance, you admit that it's mainly driven by vanity.
 
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