Medical Bills.....FFS!

[Zorak]

I pay taxes but I dont need to worry about medical bills and crap from that so I'll stay here thanks.

I've been trying so hard not to show off in this thread

 

[Kakapo Dundee]

My good lady wife arrived in NZ on the 5th July 2006. On the 8th July 2006, she slipped and fell in the shower, the glass shower door broke her fall but left her with 65 stitches. It was all paid for by use friendly Kiwi taxpayers. We're kind like that.

 

[Mercury]

Ah yes ... insurance ...

Whenever the dealer has an Ace showing, I don't place an insurance bet ...

... then again, I have more control over the entire bill ...

 

[acctnt shan]

LOL I don't understand why people view insurance as a gamble. I view it more like a payment plan... it's very rare that someone is going to go all the way through life without someone in their family needing some serious medical help. Even if you yourself don't use that much of your health benefits, it's people who are healthy like you and don't pull funds that often that make it affordable for other people who really need the help - and who honestly doesn't know anybody who relies heavily on their health insurance?

 

[Johnfromokc]

Ive never had bad health care so, think again.

I was being facetious dear. I KNOW Europeans have excellent Universal Health Care. I was indirectly poking fun at so many of my fellow Americans who think America is # 1 at absolutely everything. The average American thinks European, Australian, Canadian and New Zealand health care is just the most horrible Socialized medical system in the world. In their minds, there is no way possible any other country could possibly do anything better than America can.

They are right about America being #1 in some areas - the most EXPENSIVE health care in the world. And we are #1 in medical bankruptcy, and we are #1 in the most uninsured citizens.

 

[Johnfromokc]

Americans just love to BELIEVE that they aren't paying for something. We like to BELIEVE that costs for everything are not passed along to us, even though if we bothered to do any investigation, we'd see it.

Everyone - everywhere - pays for their health care. Some pay huge tax bills and BELIEVE they aren't paying for health care. Others pay huge markups and insurance premiums and deductables and myraids of other charges and want to BELIEVE their employer is paying for their health care. Iit's all smoke and mirrors.

Short Version: Nothing is free, anywhere.

Europeans, Canadians, Australains and New Zealanders and others with Universal Health Care KNOW they pay taxes for it. They are not ignorant of this fact as you seem to be suggesting.

They pay less overall for their health care because EVERYBODY pays the taxes. A very simple concept. In America, health insurance is too expensive for millions to afford, and medical care is unaffordable without it. And we arrogantly think we have the best medical care in the world?

What has happened in the United States is that fewer and fewer Americans can afford medical insurance, and as a result, the poorest flock to emregency rooms where they are required by law to be treated. Emergency room care is the MOST EXPENSIVE way to deliver medical care. This cost is then passed on to the remaining Americans who still have medical insurance. The result of this system is an ever upward spiral of medical costs and insurance premiums and co-pays and deductables - pricing even more Americans out of the market. It is going to crash and burn.

We KNOW this. Yet the very people who would benefit from a Universal Health Care in the United States fight against it and scream absurd slogans like "Socialism!" and other fearmongered terms. Given the demonstrated American ignorance of how insurance works, it is not surprising how ignorance about Universal Health Care gets spread.

 

[Mercury]

LOL I don't understand why people view insurance as a gamble. I view it more like a payment plan... it's very rare that someone is going to go all the way through life without someone in their family needing some serious medical help. Even if you yourself don't use that much of your health benefits, it's people who are healthy like you and don't pull funds that often that make it affordable for other people who really need the help - and who honestly doesn't know anybody who relies heavily on their health insurance?

Well said ...

... now if only insurance and medical bills were a little more realistic.

 

[darkcgi]

I have been to the hospital 5 times spit between three places.
They say they don't know what is wrong with me. So I just get a band-aid
They run the same expensive tests every time to find nothing.
I need my own IV setup at home for when I get sick. So I can skip the expensive (hotel/Hospital) visit
My bills for it are outrageous.
and I have insurance.

 

[Francis]

Americans just love to BELIEVE that they aren't paying for something. We like to BELIEVE that costs for everything are not passed along to us, even though if we bothered to do any investigation, we'd see it.

Everyone - everywhere - pays for their health care. Some pay huge tax bills and BELIEVE they aren't paying for health care. Others pay huge markups and insurance premiums and deductables and myraids of other charges and want to BELIEVE their employer is paying for their health care. Iit's all smoke and mirrors.

Short Version: Nothing is free, anywhere.

When you say everywhere please expand on that ?

 

[Jackass master]

So, are you selling insurance or what?

 

[Veronica]

I was waiting to see if he was.. but no links yet. LOL