After-birth Abortion

[alice in chains]

Nope. Pretty sure I want to fuck because... I like to fuck.


Believe it or not, some of us are capable of thinking outside the bounds of our natural imperatives.

Nature allows you to think those irrate thoughts and that is fine. How difficult would life be if we always had to see reality? lol

 

[Dana]

Nature allows you to think those irrate thoughts and that is fine. How difficult would life be if we always had to see reality? lol

Yeah because you only fuck to reproduce right? It must be a lonely reality you live in...

 

[darkcgi]

 

[alice in chains]

Yeah because you only fuck to reproduce right? It must be a lonely reality you live in...

Just thought I would give you some advice... Your stupidity is a disease, so I feel no anger towards you.

Now that that's out of the way... try and listen to what I'm saying.

Peoples' desire to have sex is a survival trait and character of the human species. It is FUN because that gives us MOTIVE to SURVIVE. Wether you succeed in having children is not the point... but it is to people who intentionally ignore me because I always have my statements covered and it angers them for who the hell knows why, lol.

 

[alice in chains]

Sounds like that dumbass made a mistake by not teaching his children how to avoid problems that can be prevented.

 

[HK]

If our desire to have sex is purely based on making babies, explain the appeal of anal.

 

[Dana]

If our desire to have sex is purely based on making babies, explain the appeal of anal.

Or lesbian sex

 

[Francis]

If our desire to have sex is purely based on making babies, explain the appeal of anal.

Check your rep for the answer.,..

 

[alice in chains]

If our desire to have sex is purely based on making babies, explain the appeal of anal.

I see it as foreplay towards the goal. Why are men attracted to boobs? Because they make our dicks hard, so we can procreate.

 

[HK]

The human urge is to have sex. Not to make babies, to have sex - you're linking one possible end result to the act as though without the possibility of babies, humans would lose interest in having sex altogether.


Whereas all the evidence points to the opposite - humans have created vast and varied ways of having sex and engaging in sexual activities that have absolutely no link to procreation whatsoever. The biological imperative is to cum. The body doesn't give a shit about where or what you choose to reach that goal in, be it a vagina, an anus, a mouth, or a man-made material shaped to resemble any of the above

 

[alice in chains]

ok that is fine. i think both our opinions are thought out, but just different.

 

[The Doc]

All i said was, if your not ready to accept the risk of an unwanted pregnancy... maybe you should re-think having sex. Thats it. Be responsible.

 

[Francis]

Well, seeing as Osama comes from a wealthy arab family thats very fundamentally muslim i dont see him ever getting aborted... and the fact that adolf hitler and benito mussolini were born to parents who were married i dont see them have a big possibility of getting aborted either. If you were to put up an argument you should have picked an orphan who ended up doing something horrible to human kind and then saying he should have been aborted. You know its a sad situation when your opponent is giving you advice...

Really...

Just because you are rich and or Arab does not make you less subject to the realities of the world..

Are there any judges that do drugs ? YES
Are there any Priest who have sex ? YES

In one Muslim country you may or may not believe it but Abortion is legal.. In others it has been happening just as it has been in other places in alleys with coat hangers and any other illegal methods possible.. Perhaps in today's society they get the medications from Western societies ( USA, England, France ) to do the dirty deed without the back alley stuff but how many of those countries prefer children to be BOYS over GIRLS with no defects ?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4436445.stm

 

[The Doc]

Really...

Just because you are rich and or Arab does not make you less subject to the realities of the world..

Are there any judges that do drugs ? YES
Are there any Priest who have sex ? YES

In one Muslim country you may or may not believe it but Abortion is legal.. In others it has been happening just as it has been in other places in alleys with coat hangers and any other illegal methods possible.. Perhaps in today's society they get the medications from Western societies ( USA, England, France ) to do the dirty deed without the back alley stuff but how many of those countries prefer children to be BOYS over GIRLS with no defects ?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/4436445.stm

Your not understanding my point at all. I wasnt arguing that. I was saying he comes from a wealthy fundamentally islamic family. Therefore weather abortion was illegal or not the likelihood of his abortion would have been low.

 

[Francis]

Your not understanding my point at all. I wasnt arguing that. I was saying he comes from a wealthy fundamentally islamic family. Therefore weather abortion was illegal or not the likelihood of his abortion would have been low.

And my point was it is because if there was any doubt he might have any health issue he would have been aborted especially in such a rich family.

 

[The Doc]

And my point was it is because if there was any doubt he might have any health issue he would have been aborted especially in such a rich family.

But he didnt and he lived. Your completely missing my point. I said your aborted child could have been the scientist to cure cancer, then i was countered with if osama bin laden and others would have been aborted. I said unlikely due to the fact he had both parents and was from a rich family. I was stating to prove his point better he should have picked an orphaned child who became a dictator or something. Regardless, i stay by my point that its not the fetus's fault the parents were irresponsible. Yes, abortion is being irresponsible. The only exception i would make to this claim is rape. Theres too many systems out there like free clinics, free access to birth control, free condoms and the morning after pill/ plan B which make it easy to make sure you dont get pregnant. With all of theese systems, if you end up 'accidentally' getting pregnant you deserve it. Deal with it. You took a risk, now deal with it. Man up.

 

[Francis]

Hum I saw the following post where you said you would take that back..

Now I have been on the fence on this subject where I believe you should be a man and take responsibility for making a child.. But I also believe there are times when a fetus might be better off not coming into existence but that's my opinion..

Now you say, send it to adoption, but as a man you don't have that option if the woman decides to keep it depending on where you live..

But he didnt and he lived. Your completely missing my point. I said your aborted child could have been the scientist to cure cancer, then i was countered with if osama bin laden and others would have been aborted. I said unlikely due to the fact he had both parents and was from a rich family. I was stating to prove his point better he should have picked an orphaned child who became a dictator or something. Regardless, i stay by my point that its not the fetus's fault the parents were irresponsible. Yes, abortion is being irresponsible. The only exception i would make to this claim is rape. Theres too many systems out there like free clinics, free access to birth control, free condoms and the morning after pill/ plan B which make it easy to make sure you dont get pregnant. With all of theese systems, if you end up 'accidentally' getting pregnant you deserve it. Deal with it. You took a risk, now deal with it. Man up.

Well I did not miss your point.. If you are going to "ASSUME" that someone could have lived and become something than others will "ASSUME" for you that others could have died and not become what they did.. See it works both ways.. And by the way money or no money, its irrelevant..

Well seems you did not read my original post as well as you thought.. I clearly stated be a man and take responsibility for making a child.

There are far more kids born from Rape that should survive "IF THE WOMAN" wants the baby. But any child that has a life disabilatating disease that will kill it in the first few months or year(s) of its life, while it suffers greatly during that time, should be considered for it's comfort not our convenience.

 

[Francis]

I always amazes me how quick society is ready to condemn an act yet is ready to send a child to war..

Does the child at war not have the same opportunity to become the next Doctor, Engineer or Scientist to save billions of lives?

Why is it that we accept to let a 19 or 21 year old get killed at War but an unborn, which we have no idea which side of good or evil he will grow up to be, which in itself is another topic..

The death penalty and euthanasia.. We argue to bring a fetus to life yet will kill people we feel deserve our wrath and make those who we love suffer who deserve to have a right over their own faith. Truly amazing when you think about it.. Let a guilty man off the hook by sticking a needle in him and set him free but let Grandma suffer for a year of two in excruciating pain because we love her.. :willy_nilly:

 

[Tim]

Those who argue so strongly against abortion are usually the first to stand up and demand their tax dollars aren't used for welfare to help these same children...

funny how that works

 

[satinbutterfly]

The whole 'You decided to have sex so you should have to deal with the consequences' line never fails to amuse me. Personally I don't believe in forcing people to have children that don't want them. It would be unfair to the child.

I think everyone who is pro-life should have to adopt at least 5 children, since they're so adamant about making sure every child conceived is brought into this world. If you want them then you should take care of them.