Trayvon Martin- Tragedy

[Panacea]

I can not say it is a wound either. Just that it is not a hair line.

It is shitty film and to compound things ABC put their damn logo in the worst possible place.

If he was beat up there are gonna be pictures.

The video IMO is not conclusive about anything. Sure does not help Zimmerman though given all the assumptions made early on. It fits into the neat box that was first wrapped.

Ya my suspicions are with the apparent behaviors of both the police and Zimmerman, but even then with no sound it's useless.

 

[Mercury]

Ya my suspicions are with the apparent behaviors of both the police and Zimmerman, but even then with no sound it's useless.

It does look odd but you are totally right, without sound it is pretty useless.

 

[Panacea]

It does look odd but you are totally right, without sound it is pretty useless.

It just looks SO casual, I mean a teenager is dead, he is supposedly beat up...why the nonchalance? lol
I guess it depends on how long it had been since the incident, surely people don't stay riled up forever but it's just odd.

 

[Mercury]

It just looks SO casual, I mean a teenager is dead, he is supposedly beat up...why the nonchalance? lol
I guess it depends on how long it had been since the incident, surely people don't stay riled up forever but it's just odd.

Yeah, I know I would have been shaking for days!

 

[All Else Failed]

You really don't get it, do you? What you claim to be an obvious wound could be just about anything. His face doesn't show anything even like your wound.

Jesus Christ dude... Give it up already.

No, I do get it. You made observations about a video that I made observations about, but somehow only yours are worth-while.


You can make an observation about how "his face does not have any wounds on it" but when a potential wound is pointed out, you simply deny it all and sweep it under a large threadbare rug.

 

[retro]

No, I do get it. You made observations about a video that I made observations about, but somehow only yours are worth-while.


You can make an observation about how "his face does not have any wounds on it" but when a potential wound is pointed out, you simply deny it all and sweep it under a large threadbare rug.

Haha... I haven't said anything about the wound except that it's dubious at best. It could be a wound, but it could be a number of different things. His face is shown multiple times, and yet it's only that one still shot that shows anything like a wound. You're really quite clueless, aren't you? I feel like I'm back in high school debating... all of my opponents were overmatched then as well. Give up while you're only this far behind.

 

[The Man]

The important thing here is that Zimmerman has solid friends or family that wont turn him over to the black panthers to get the money.
Why would the Black Panthers want to pay for his capture?
He isnt wanted per say..well except by the black panthers.

 

[All Else Failed]

Haha... I haven't said anything about the wound except that it's dubious at best. It could be a wound, but it could be a number of different things. His face is shown multiple times, and yet it's only that one still shot that shows anything like a wound. You're really quite clueless, aren't you? I feel like I'm back in high school debating... all of my opponents were overmatched then as well. Give up while you're only this far behind.

lmao man I hope the room you're in is spacious because you're artificially inflated ego must have some great mass. You sound ridiculous and your false air of superiority is embarrassing.


No, see. At first when the pic was posted you were like "blah blah it's his hairline" (which was immediately apparent as not being that at all) or a....hold on let me prepare myself for this yet again....perhaps...a..."shadow".



*deep breath*


But, again, you are still living on this false notion that his face has to be all kinds of fucked up to have been assaulted. Which is fallacious at best.

 

[retro]

lmao man I hope the room you're in is spacious because you're artificially inflated ego must have some great mass. You sound ridiculous and your false air of superiority is embarrassing.


No, see. At first when the pic was posted you were like "blah blah it's his hairline" (which was immediately apparent as not being that at all) or a....hold on let me prepare myself for this yet again....perhaps...a..."shadow".



*deep breath*


But, again, you are still living on this false notion that his face has to be all kinds of fucked up to have been assaulted. Which is fallacious at best.

There you go, attacking me when you can't defend your point. It's really quite sad and pathetic. Also, it's not arrogance if it's true... I don't have an inflated ego, I have a proper understanding of what my abilities and talents are. There's a very distinct difference between that and a "false" air of superiority. I'd suggest that you refrain from calling me a liar again, else I be forced to further destroy any credibility that you might have remaining.

I've brought up things that the mark you claim is "obviously a wound" could have been. It's fallacious at best to claim that it's obviously anything... it's a dubious image from what you already said was a dubious source. Nice try though... but I suggest that you stick to one story rather than changing things as they suit you.

That all being said, you're honestly boring me at this point... so I don't think I'm going to bother responding to you anymore. You enjoy getting the last word in though, I'm not going to bother with a response... because quite honestly, nothing that you've said is deserving of a proper response. So therefore, I'm not longer going to give you the pleasure of discussing anything with me. If you'd like to join the grown-up discussion and deal with facts and actual evidence, then I might consider changing my mind, but it's doubtful that will transpire anyway. Thanks though, you provided a little bit of amusement, but I'm through. Enjoy making an even bigger fool of yourself though, I'm sure others will find it amusing.

 

[Johnfromokc]

Looks like Zimmerman is a fucking liar.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/george-zimmerman-police-surveillance-16024475

No grass stains or anything else that he claimed.

I had attempted to start a new thread to discuss the video in attempt to get a bit of a fresh start from all the contention in this thread. Posted it just before you posted here Retro:

http://www.offtopicz.net/showthread...Shows-No-Blood-or-Bruises-on-George-Zimmerman

I'm also reading where Zimmerans father is a magistrate of some kind in the Virginia Supreme Court. I wonder did daddy call in some favors and get George released?

 

[Alien Allen]

give it up guys

before the thread gets locked by somebody

 

[The Man]

I had attempted to start a new thread to discuss the video in attempt to get a bit of a fresh start from all the contention in this thread. Posted it just before you posted here Retro:

http://www.offtopicz.net/showthread...Shows-No-Blood-or-Bruises-on-George-Zimmerman

I'm also reading where Zimmerans father is a magistrate of some kind in the Virginia Supreme Court. I wonder did daddy call in some favors and get George released?

I think he is a retired judge.
Either way ..I dont see anyone jeopardizing their careers via phone communication.
The hate crime crowd would have already exposed any phone records IMO.

 

[The Man]

I think he is a retired judge.
Either way ..I dont see anyone jeopardizing their careers via phone communication.
The hate crime crowd would have already exposed any phone records IMO.

But most important...the cops wanted to prosecute him..it was the DA that said no
Therefore I find the argument difficult to agree with that the cops are protecting Zimmerman.

But yes it is plausible that the DA could have given a little favoritism....but only if there is some evidence we dont know about that would show that Zimmerman left his vehicle for the purpose of killing trayvon

 

[All Else Failed]

There you go, attacking me when you can't defend your point. It's really quite sad and pathetic. Also, it's not arrogance if it's true... I don't have an inflated ego, I have a proper understanding of what my abilities and talents are. There's a very distinct difference between that and a "false" air of superiority. I'd suggest that you refrain from calling me a liar again, else I be forced to further destroy any credibility that you might have remaining.

I've brought up things that the mark you claim is "obviously a wound" could have been. It's fallacious at best to claim that it's obviously anything... it's a dubious image from what you already said was a dubious source. Nice try though... but I suggest that you stick to one story rather than changing things as they suit you.

That all being said, you're honestly boring me at this point... so I don't think I'm going to bother responding to you anymore. You enjoy getting the last word in though, I'm not going to bother with a response... because quite honestly, nothing that you've said is deserving of a proper response. So therefore, I'm not longer going to give you the pleasure of discussing anything with me. If you'd like to join the grown-up discussion and deal with facts and actual evidence, then I might consider changing my mind, but it's doubtful that will transpire anyway. Thanks though, you provided a little bit of amusement, but I'm through. Enjoy making an even bigger fool of yourself though, I'm sure others will find it amusing.

oh please don't cry foul on calling people things when you've been calling me things for the past few pages. I'm defending my points perfectly fine you're just falling back this garbage. I'm not going to refrain from anything, you're going to be my new debate friend. Forever.


You brought up RIDICULOUS things on what it could have been, then complained about how I was making observations about a picture that came from a video that you yourself were making observations about. Don't you see this? Then you go on on a lie about how I'm changing my story when really all you are doing is misunderstanding what I am saying.


Oh fucking please. You're not interested in a conversation or the evidence because you had this guy in front of the firing squad a long time ago.


I accept your defeat.

 

[Tangerine]

But most important...the cops wanted to prosecute him..it was the DA that said no
Therefore I find the argument difficult to agree with that the cops are protecting Zimmerman.

But yes it is plausible that the DA could have given a little favoritism....but only if there is some evidence we dont know about that would show that Zimmerman left his vehicle for the purpose of killing trayvon

Far more likely that the DA chose not to proceed because there was no clear slam-dunk case. DA's dont like to start cases they feel they can't win. They are judged on their win rates. Sad, but true. Justice is often enslaved by the fight for good statistics.

 

[The Man]

Far more likely that the DA chose not to proceed because there was no clear slam-dunk case. DA's dont like to start cases they feel they can't win. They are judged on their win rates. Sad, but true. Justice is often enslaved by the fight for good statistics.

Very possible,
Which would mean its not a coverup...especially since the police wanted to charge him..but the hate crowd is saying the cops are covering it up

 

[Joe the meek]

I hope I'm not the only one the irony of this picture isn't lost on.

 

[All Else Failed]

No see, it's okay for one side to be racist.

 

[Panacea]

I hope I'm not the only one the irony of this picture isn't lost on.

For sure you're not. It's ridiculous on a number of levels.

 

[Jaybird]

*popcorn*