Trayvon Martin- Tragedy

[Alien Allen]

The police were obviously in on a conspiracy

 

[retro]

Sure as hell just looks like he's balding to me.

 

[All Else Failed]

Uh, there is clearly a mark there.

 

[porterjack]

i saw the video of him being brought into the station

the way the cop just let him walk around that motorcycle without taking the direct route to the door smacks of conspiuracy to me

btw he looks so much like Tim Tebow it aint funny

 

[retro]

Uh, there is clearly a mark there.

I thought that the video was such shitty quality that you couldn't tell anything for sure. Funny how your opinion changes so fluidly.

 

[Panacea]

I don't see the Tebow resemblance lol

I find that video strange as all hell. I've seen a lot of people taken into custody and brought to facilities at work...it strikes me as a bit awkward.

Interesting he seems so calm, given whatever happened, if he thought he would be killed not long beforehand, and given the fact he killed someone...:dunno
guess everyone responds differently. /pc

 

[All Else Failed]

I thought that the video was such shitty quality that you couldn't tell anything for sure. Funny how your opinion changes so fluidly.

A close-up still is certainly different.


here let me help you with this:



you're not living in reality if you don't see a mark on his head



you're trying to save face

 

[anathelia]

That's the only split second view you have on the back of his head, and unless you were pausing the video frame by frame, it's easy to miss given the less than stellar quality of the video. To someone not dissecting the video, when you watch it it doesn't look out of place at all. Conveniently, ABC put their impossibly huge "exclusive news" logo over the bottom third of the screen so at no other point can you see the back of his head.

Now, go ahead and tell me that I'm backpedaling.

 

[All Else Failed]

Dear lord, people


that is obviously a wound


you can even make out the redness

 

[retro]

A close-up still is certainly different.


here let me help you with this:



you're not living in reality if you don't see a mark on his head



you're trying to save face

Trying to save face? Hardly. Like I said, it looks like he's balding to me, and that's it. What you're calling a mark looks like it could simply be his hairline. You're the one that's gone from claiming that the video was too shitty to see anything clearly to now claiming that something is there as clear as day.

Funny how your opinion changes in order to fit your claims. Leave the debating and discussion to the grown-ups, you're out of your league here.

 

[retro]

Dear lord, people


that is obviously a wound


you can even make out the redness

The "redness" looks like the color of his skin when you compare it to what his neck looks like.

Why is this suddenly "clear" when it was shitty before?

 

[All Else Failed]

Balding results in marks that look like head wounds eh


lmao a hairline? You have to be trolling me right now because that is the only thing I can think of as to why you're saying THAT is a hairline


Yeah it is shitty video but a frozen still of footage close-up is different. It reveals details


My observations have never changed. You're the one going on about hairlines that obviously do not look like hairlines. For christ sakes the mark in WITHIN a bald patch of flesh


You're not only out of your league, you're out of what seems to be a good subscription for glasses

 

[retro]

Sure thing champ. A still shot still doesn't change the quality of the video. What I'm saying is that what you've called an "obvious wound" is ambiguous at best. You change stories and claims around in order to fit what you want to see.

I see something that could be a wound, but could just as easily be something natural like his hairline, birthmark, a shadow, or any number of things.

The difference between the two of us is that I'm viewing this objectively while you have a biased opinion and are seeing whatever you want to see in order for it to fit with your beliefs. You and others around here have decided that he was justified in what he did and cannot be convinced otherwise.

 

[Alien Allen]

Is there any indication if any of the police were friends with Zimmerman?

There are some interesting anomalies in this case on both sides.

Police and EMS indicate he was treated for head wounds yet he does not appear in the video to be roughed to any great degree.

Did the police take his clothes at the scene or is that how he came into headquarters?

Why is the ABC logo in a conveniently bad place on that video?

How long after the incident does that video take place?

Seeing how somebody leaked that video then why have they not leaked the video of him being questioned? In this day and age I have to assume those interrogations would have been taped.

 

[anathelia]

Dear lord, people


that is obviously a wound


you can even make out the redness

Jesus, AEF. I NEVER disagreed with you. I merely pointed out that without going out of your way to freeze the video and look at it, you can't tell it's there.

You legitimately piss me off with your attitude whenever it comes to debating or discussing anything.

 

[All Else Failed]

Police and EMS indicate he was treated for head wounds yet he does not appear in the video to be roughed to any great degree.

look at the pic posted


oh wait, sorry, apparently that is only a red colored hairline

Sure thing champ. A still shot still doesn't change the quality of the video. What I'm saying is that what you've called an "obvious wound" is ambiguous at best. You change stories and claims around in order to fit what you want to see.

I see something that could be a wound, but could just as easily be something natural like his hairline, birthmark, a shadow, or any number of things.

The difference between the two of us is that I'm viewing this objectively while you have a biased opinion and are seeing whatever you want to see in order for it to fit with your beliefs. You and others around here have decided that he was justified in what he did and cannot be convinced otherwise.

I haven't changed my story at all, dude. Not at all. I said the footage was shitty, but stills. are. different. Close-up ones, at all.


if i'm crazy for saying it is a wound, you're even more crazy for saying it is a god damn hairline in the middle of a bald patch of flesh or a SHADOW (?????)

 

[retro]

You legitimately piss me off with your attitude whenever it comes to debating or discussing anything.

That's cause he's incapable of discussing anything without making it personal and attacking people when he can't defend his points. It's childish at best.

 

[Alien Allen]

no way that is a hairline retro

it is some kind of a mark or shadow inside what appears to be a balding area. No way a hairline is near vertical in the middle of the back/top of ones head.

 

[retro]

look at the pic posted


oh wait, sorry, apparently that is only a red colored hairline

Compare the "redness" with the color of his skin on his neck. There isn't a huge difference.

You're seeing what you want to see based on a single still from what you claimed was a shitty video. You can't have it both ways.

You still haven't explained why there aren't any visible wounds on his face.

 

[retro]

no way that is a hairline retro

it is some kind of a mark or shadow inside what appears to be a balding area. No way a hairline is near vertical in the middle of the back/top of ones head.

It may not be. My point is that it's ambiguous and inconclusive. AEF is claiming that it's obviously a head wound, I'm merely providing other options.