The Greatest Boxer Of All Time

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Sports historians often claim that Muhammed Ali was the greatest boxer of all time.

However, I don't believe their was one single greatest boxer in history. Instead, I believe there's a bunch near the top. Ali, George Foreman, Joe Louis, and a few more were the best to me.

Some would point out that Ali beat Foreman. However, they only fought once. If Ali had beaten Foreman two or three times, then that would've been one thing. But one fight often doesn't mean the winner is better than the loser overall. If there had been a rematch, maybe Foreman would have come out on top.
 
Are we talking slugger or actual boxer? Sugar Ray is the greatest boxer of all time, pound for pound. Other than that, Ali, hands down. A boxer need not beat an opponent more than once, we don't say that with the Super Bowl, lol.
 
Tyson was the most dominant boxer of all-time in the opinion of many experts, even more dominant than George Foreman.

However, being the most dominant doesn't mean he was the best.

Tyson wasn't a smart fighter like Ali was. For example, when he lost to Buster Douglas, Tyson's first ever loss, he went straight after Douglas. But when that didn't work, he had no plan B. Hence, he kept going straight after his foe and was hit more than anything. Even Tyson can take only so many punches, and he fell in the huge upset.

Ali would've had a plan B.
 
MainerMikeBrown said:
Although there are boxers who are pound-for-pound among the best, the reality is that the best heavyweights would defeat the best of those in the lighter weight classes. A fighter that weighs, say, 150 pounds wouldn't fare well against a heavyweight, in general.
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Wrong sir, James Toney started his career out at 160 pounds, then got incredibly fat and became one of the top heavyweights in the sport, a bloated up middleweight has a knockout win over Evander Holyfield and has never been knocked out himself.
 
MainerMikeBrown said:
Tyson was the most dominant boxer of all-time in the opinion of many experts, even more dominant than George Foreman.

However, being the most dominant doesn't mean he was the best.

Tyson wasn't a smart fighter like Ali was. For example, when he lost to Buster Douglas, Tyson's first ever loss, he went straight after Douglas. But when that didn't work, he had no plan B. Hence, he kept going straight after his foe and was hit more than anything. Even Tyson can take only so many punches, and he fell in the huge upset.

Ali would've had a plan B.
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Ali's "Plan B" is to turtle up against the ropes and hope his opponent gets tired of pounding on him before they knock him out. If he tried that against Tyson he'd be leaving the arena in a body bag.
 
with all the different weight divisions there is a LOT of room to call anyone GOAT...

while the big dudes make for impressive fights, it is often the non heavyweights that put on the best shows!

in no particular order: (these would be my favorites)

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[TD]Evander Holyfield
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[TR]
[TD]George Foreman[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Joe Lewis[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]Julio Cesar Chavez[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mike Tyson[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Muhammad Ali[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Oscar de la Hoya
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Pernell Whitaker
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Roberto "Manos de Piedra" Duran[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Roy Jones Jr.
[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sugar Ray Leonard[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sugar Ray Robinson[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]


I am biased and would put JCC as my personal favorite :P
 
teh_fuzz said:
with all the different weight divisions there is a LOT of room to call anyone GOAT...

while the big dudes make for impressive fights, it is often the non heavyweights that put on the best shows!

in no particular order: (these would be my favorites)

[TABLE="width: 220"]
[TR]
[TD]Evander Holyfield[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]George Foreman[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Joe Lewis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Julio Cesar Chavez[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mike Tyson[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Muhammad Ali[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Oscar de la hoya[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Pernell whitaker[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Roberto "Manos de Piedra" Duran[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]roy jones Jr.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sugar Ray Leonard[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sugar Ray Robinson[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

[TABLE="width: 220"]
[TR]
[TD]Evander holyfield[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]George Foreman[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Joe Lewis[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Julio Cesar Chavez[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Mike Tyson[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Muhammad Ali[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Oscar de la hoya[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Pernell whitaker[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Roberto "Manos de Piedra" Duran[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Roy jones Jr.[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sugar Ray Leonard[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]Sugar Ray Robinson
[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]
I am biased and would put JCC as my personal favorite :P
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I like that list, my list of favorites looks like:

Carl Froch
Bernard Hopkins
Vitali Klitschko
Wladimir Klitschko
Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Antonio Margarito
Arthur Abraham
Thomas Hearns
Paulie Malignaggi
Chris Eubank
 
Ali didn't know when to retire. In his second-to-last fight, he got pummeled by Larry Holmes. And before the fight took place, Ali couldn't even hit a punching bag all that well at that point.

And after losing that fight, he decided to fight once more. He lost to some boxer I've never even heard of.
 
current boxers are chumps

the real men fought it out for 15 rounds

pound for pound Duran was arguably the best of all time. He took himself down off the pedestal in most peoples minds with no mas though.

Rocky Marciano also was on top of his game and at the time there were always good fighters. Unlike recent memory when fighters would do all they could to avoid fighting the best out there a lot of the time.

Also not sure if Tommy Hearns has been mentioned. He moved up several weight classes and I think won the most titles. Like Ali he fought too long and it took him down a notch in most eyes
 
Joe Frazier's son, Marvis, had a decent boxing career. But he was nowhere near the level of Joe. Marvis lost to Larry Holmes in one round, and lasted just thirty seconds into the fight against Mike Tyson.

One of Marvis' weaknesses as a boxer is that he couldn't withstand hard hitting blows from an opponent. That's just a slight problem when you go against one of the hardest hitters in boxing history, Mike Tyson.
 
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