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pjbleek

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The law over here says we can drink from age 18.


So..... British kids are more mature than American kids, right? It must be true, because it's the law.
as long you could see over the bar you were allowed to drink...and that was in Ireland...now I realized how high the bar really was...
 
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The law over here says we can drink from age 18.


So..... British kids are more mature than American kids, right? It must be true, because it's the law.

It's even more complicated than that because alcohol can be consumed from the age of 16 if it's in a resturant as part of a meal (though some resturants have their own rules) and from the age of 5 as long as it is in the home with the permission of a legal guardian

British kids at home with mummy's permission must be uber-mature :p
 

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In the U.S. years ago, 18 year-olds weren't allowed to vote despite the fact that many of them were forced to defend freedom by fighting on the battlefield as soldiers at that age. That wasn't fair, so they made it legal for 18 year-olds to vote.

However, it's a different story when it comes to drinking. Sure, 18 year-olds are at the age where they can join the military without being legally able to drink in America. But unlike 18 year-olds being allowed to vote, 18 year-olds being able to drink has deadly consequences. Those in their late teens may technically be adults, but they really aren't. They need to become more mature before they're allowed to drink, and that's why the minimum drinking age is not 18 in my country.
 

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Sure Kyle, sending teens to the battlefield can have deadly consequences. However, a combination of 18 year-olds being sent to the battlefield and those same youths being able to drink back home would have even deadlier consequences.

Let's not increase the death rate of 18 year-olds by allowing them to drink as well!
 

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Prohibition doesn't work.

America's jails and prisons are filled with non-violent drug offenders (think pot). Drinking problems exist in America because the Nanny State has criminalised booze - my parents were European and we were allowed watered-down table wine with dinner, beer, and hard cider from the age of 7 or 8. I've never gotten behind the wheel drunk, I've always been able to call my folks for a lift (no matter WHAT time), I've always been responsible when I'm the designated driver (I will NOT touch a drop of alcohol if I'm the DD - soft drinks and water only)... perhaps instead of BANNING booze, we should simply teach people (and lead by example) how to drink responsibly.

Novel concept, eh???

In Germany, you can legally buy alcohol at age 16. However, you cannot buy any alcohol that is over 12% by volume until you're 18. And you don't get to even start driver training until you're 18. And even then, it's pretty expensive - so no one takes having a license for granted.
 

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And I think that it is ridiculous that someone who is in any branch of the armed services cannot drink.

You can blow people away, but you can't have a beer???? Seriously???
 

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And I think that it is ridiculous that someone who is in any branch of the armed services cannot drink.

You can blow people away, but you can't have a beer???? Seriously???
:shesaid No doubt. This idea of 2 or 3 or 4 different ages to acknowledge competence is ridiculous. I say choose one age - 20 is as good as any - for all adult privileges: driving, drinking, voting, joining the military, marriage without parental consent, all of it.
 

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and that's why the minimum drinking age is not 18 in my country.
Actually, the reason the drinking age is not 18 is because the Reagan administration, supported by a bipartisan congress, passed the unconstitutional National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 in an effort to micromanage state political affairs. This law didn't set the minimum age, because that is not permitted under the Constitution. Rather it makes an end-run around the document each and every one of them swore to support and defend to change Title 23 of the US Code to require the states to change their own drinking age laws or risk losing 10% of their allotted federal highway funds ... funds required by the Constitution, btw.

I would love to know how Gingrich and Paul voted on that, since they were both in office at that time.
 

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I would love to know how Gingrich and Paul voted on that, since they were both in office at that time.

It passed through the house on a voice vote, so we'll never know. Another reason why a roll call vote should be required on every single piece of legislation.
 

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Actually, the reason the drinking age is not 18 is because the Reagan administration, supported by a bipartisan congress, passed the unconstitutional National Minimum Drinking Age Act of 1984 in an effort to micromanage state political affairs. This law didn't set the minimum age, because that is not permitted under the Constitution. Rather it makes an end-run around the document each and every one of them swore to support and defend to change Title 23 of the US Code to require the states to change their own drinking age laws or risk losing 10% of their allotted federal highway funds ... funds required by the Constitution, btw.

I would love to know how Gingrich and Paul voted on that, since they were both in office at that time.

Good old saint Ronnie strikes again - "How can I fuck my country? Let me count the ways"....

We are still suffering in so many ways from that old bastards presidency. I enlisted during Regan and my home of record was Georgia. They esentially ignored the law for active duty military. Show a green ID at the door and you'd get in and be allowed to drink.

Fucking asshat politicians trying to control peoples social lives have created many times more problems than they solved.
 

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Good old saint Ronnie strikes again - "How can I fuck my country? Let me count the ways"....

We are still suffering in so many ways from that old bastards presidency. I enlisted during Regan and my home of record was Georgia. They esentially ignored the law for active duty military. Show a green ID at the door and you'd get in and be allowed to drink.

Fucking asshat politicians trying to control peoples social lives have created many times more problems than they solved.
that was my parents generation that voted him into office, they saw the movie actor think he was the leader of the free world and WE allowed it to happen twice!! its a sad commentary to that generation that he alone tripled the national debt...Star Wars, the space missile complex....just pumping more money into the military and trying to defend it by saying the communist threat was still there....
I wonder if in Truman's day if he exchanged the olive branch to the Soviets after WWII would things had been better....
 

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That is true!
But if you have no drinking age than all the teens are always drunk and it is very bad for their health...:p
Here's another one that thinks that if Washington doesn't do it then it doesn't get done.
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Every state already had age limits for drinking before the federal gov't stepped in.
 

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As bad of an idea it is for a teen to drink, I must admit it-when I was 18 and became intoxicated a couple of times, I had a good time. It's one of the better memories of my life.

Since then, I've moved on to other things, and I have no interest in getting plowed again. It feels a little to juvenile for me to party again. But at the time it was fun, I must admit.
 

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As bad of an idea it is for a teen to drink, I must admit it-when I was 18 and became intoxicated a couple of times, I had a good time. It's one of the better memories of my life.

Since then, I've moved on to other things, and I have no interest in getting plowed again. It feels a little to juvenile for me to party again. But at the time it was fun, I must admit.
AHAAAAAHHHH!!! So alcohol is a gateway drug! :jk
 
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