something a certain person can only dream of doing

[Tuffdisc]

im in the mood to do a self portrait now..

I'll buy it for £4 million

 

[Guyzerr]

Well it's an interesting point the put up or shut up thingy. I guess.

That's kinda what I figured so once again I called him on it....... again.

I just said it to avoid the petty arguments in the other thread.[/QUOTE]

Howdie Springer... is there a fight happening in another thread that I'd be interested in knowing about? Skip the answer cuz I don't fight on Thursdays between 3Pm and my bedtime.

 

[Guyzerr]

:homo:

This is getting a little old.

PP - where's YOUR photos? *runs fast* Could say the same about me though :nod:

Ladies and gentlemen I have explained myself quite well on numerous occasions so I'm not about to do it again. I'm also not about to let Tuffy off the hook again. If he wants to beak off then I'm gunna call him on it. It's quite simple..,.. he either puts up or shuts up. I'm tired of him treating the members at OTZ like second class citizens and that's exactly what he's been doing for a very long time.

 

[itsmeJonB]

Amazing shots

 

[Guyzerr]

I did say the photos were nice, just that some were cropped to magnified, and I can actually back it up, but I don't want handbags in threads, just because I 'Don't back up my claims' about being a tog

Tuffy you post your shots at other sites but refuse to post them here. I asked you before what the reason was and you cited copyright to which I called bullshit. Then I asked you what the real reason was and listed two possibilities. They were.... 1) Because you are ashamed of your shots and for that reason didn't want to post them here for us to admire, critique or ridicule. 2) Because you don't feel we are worthy of viewing your shots? To date you haven't answered my question and if you think I'm going to back off you are absolutely incorrect. Each and every time I see you make so much as an iota of a negative comment against anyones photo I will sling that shit right back in your face until you get the message. If it goes on long enough I have absolutely no problem in posting a link to the sites you post your snapshots at. You need to remember something.... You posted the stuff for the world to see. You have no blocks on it therefore viewing is not something you can control.

As it stands right no I do not like you because of your narcissistic attitude but I have refrained in posting the links as a courtesy to you. My suggestion to you is that you don't abuse my kindness.

 

[Tuffdisc]

Tuffy you post your shots at other sites but refuse to post them here. I asked you before what the reason was and you cited copyright to which I called bullshit. Then I asked you what the real reason was and listed two possibilities. They were.... 1) Because you are ashamed of your shots and for that reason didn't want to post them here for us to admire, critique or ridicule. 2) Because you don't feel we are worthy of viewing your shots? To date you haven't answered my question and if you think I'm going to back off you are absolutely incorrect. Each and every time I see you make so much as an iota of a negative comment against anyones photo I will sling that shit right back in your face until you get the message. If it goes on long enough I have absolutely no problem in posting a link to the sites you post your snapshots at. You need to remember something.... You posted the stuff for the world to see. You have no blocks on it therefore viewing is not something you can control.

As it stands right no I do not like you because of your narcissistic attitude but I have refrained in posting the links as a courtesy to you. My suggestion to you is that you don't abuse my kindness.

OK, if you think copyright is BS, then I can take your photos and use them right? Or are you going to continue to berate me? Everyone apart from you and Retro (in the rep remarks) has long given up, I would suggest you do so

 

[Alien Allen]

Maybe if you would back off Tuffy they might do the same

You are on the verge if not trolling with some of your comments

IMO

 

[Tuffdisc]

Maybe if you would back off Tuffy they might do the same

You are on the verge if not trolling with some of your comments

IMO

That is your opinion, and no I am not on the verge of trolling, takes one to know one, so you back off, and I did back off where you are getting your info I don't know, perhaps you should get real and butt out of this argument that was not started by me, but by a certain G, and I did not deserve those remarks that retro made since it isn't his argument, perhaps you should tell them to back off or are you too scared?

 

[Alien Allen]

That is your opinion, and no I am not on the verge of trolling, takes one to know one, so you back off, and I did back off where you are getting your info I don't know, perhaps you should get real and butt out of this argument that was not started by me, but by a certain G, and I did not deserve those remarks that retro made since it isn't his argument, perhaps you should tell them to back off or are you too scared?

Yes it is my opinion

And I stand by it

I got no dog in this fight

All of you should back off

I don't see that happening though

 

[Guyzerr]

OK, if you think copyright is BS, then I can take your photos and use them right? Or are you going to continue to berate me? Everyone apart from you and Retro (in the rep remarks) has long given up, I would suggest you do so

Posting links to where you post your pictures isn't even remotely connected to actually taking one of your pictures and doing something with it so why even mention that.

Or are you going to continue to berate me? Everyone apart from you and Retro (in the rep remarks) has long given up, I would suggest you do so

I'm not berating you one bit nor am I one to give up when I see someone try and take others for a ride. I'm just flinging the shit right back at you. In case you forget exactly what shit that is let me remind you. For many months you threatened us with the arrival of your web site but because of a shitty internet connection or lousy ISP it was taking longer than expected. We all listened to you whine about your crappy internet service along with it's related excuses about this and that. We listened to you bitch about not being able to post anything here because of it as well. While you were busy flinging your shit you were posting some stuff elsewhere. When I called you on it you brought up the issue of not posting here because of the Copyright bullshit and you wanted to protect your snapshots. You know full well that's just another bullshit excuse but you fling it around like we're actually going to feel threatened and fall for it.

I'm asking you for the third time..................

You don't post your snapshots here :

1) Because you are ashamed of your shots and for that reason didn't want to post them here for us to admire, critique or ridicule.

2) Because you don't feel we are worthy of viewing your shots?

If you would have been honest from the get-go we wouldn't be having this discussion would we......

 

[Tuffdisc]

Posting links to where you post your pictures isn't even remotely connected to actually taking one of your pictures and doing something with it so why even mention that.



I'm not berating you one bit nor am I one to give up when I see someone try and take others for a ride. I'm just flinging the shit right back at you. In case you forget exactly what shit that is let me remind you. For many months you threatened us with the arrival of your web site but because of a shitty internet connection or lousy ISP it was taking longer than expected. We all listened to you whine about your crappy internet service along with it's related excuses about this and that. We listened to you bitch about not being able to post anything here because of it as well. While you were busy flinging your shit you were posting some stuff elsewhere. When I called you on it you brought up the issue of not posting here because of the Copyright bullshit and you wanted to protect your snapshots. You know full well that's just another bullshit excuse but you fling it around like we're actually going to feel threatened and fall for it.

I'm asking you for the third time..................

You don't post your snapshots here :

1) Because you are ashamed of your shots and for that reason didn't want to post them here for us to admire, critique or ridicule.

2) Because you don't feel we are worthy of viewing your shots?

If you would have been honest from the get-go we wouldn't be having this discussion would we......

I think you are wrong to call them snapshots, not only that very sad indeed, I think people have said on this thread that a) some of the photos were cropped, something you haven't comprehended yet b) people were throwing crap at me for no reason, yet you said that I was throwing it at them, again you never get your facts right. So, in future get your facts right, also tell retro to stop calling me names in the reps remarks and come out and not hide like a chicken

No I am not ashamed of my photos thank you, seems like you are in doolally land yet again, there is something called copyright and therefore cannot post on this site, you never went to criticise other people on this site who criticised your 'photos' if you can call them that. Second of all, since someone seemed it fit to post personal info of myself without permission, I will never post anymore photos since he was ganging up on me in your defence for no reason at all. Please comprehend that for future reference, if I want to say your 'photos' are crap I will say so, I will speak my mind, if you don't like it, get some spine in yourself, and also fight your own wars and stop getting other members involved

 

[Guyzerr]

I think you are wrong to call them snapshots, not only that very sad indeed, I think people have said on this thread that a) some of the photos were cropped, something you haven't comprehended yet b) people were throwing crap at me for no reason, yet you said that I was throwing it at them, again you never get your facts right. So, in future get your facts right, also tell retro to stop calling me names in the reps remarks and come out and not hide like a chicken

No I am not ashamed of my photos thank you, seems like you are in doolally land yet again, there is something called copyright and therefore cannot post on this site, you never went to criticise other people on this site who criticised your 'photos' if you can call them that. Second of all, since someone seemed it fit to post personal info of myself without permission, I will never post anymore photos since he was ganging up on me in your defence for no reason at all. Please comprehend that for future reference, if I want to say your 'photos' are crap I will say so, I will speak my mind, if you don't like it, get some spine in yourself, and also fight your own wars and stop getting other members involved

What kind of drugs are you on?

Please explain to me what Copyright means to you. We'll take it from there when your done.

 

[Tuffdisc]

What kind of drugs are you on?

Please explain to me what Copyright means to you. We'll take it from there when your done.

You don't know what copyright means? Wow, oh I remember yours hasn't got any on them because they are so rubbish

 

[MoonOwl]

*deciding she cannot resist temptation any longer, flys through the pursewaving while drawing a line in the sand so we can all see once and for all whose purse is bigger and badder*:nod:


boys....... :24::willy_nilly::24:

 

[retro]

OK, if you think copyright is BS, then I can take your photos and use them right? Or are you going to continue to berate me? Everyone apart from you and Retro (in the rep remarks) has long given up, I would suggest you do so

Dude... copyrights can't be an issue unless the pictures aren't your own. Is the concept of simple copyright law that fucking difficult for you to understand? If you own the picture, you own the copyright (unless you've sold it). So this is what we're left with.

1) Copyright isn't the issue, and you just don't want to post the pictures

2) Copyright is the issue because you've sold your pictures and they aren't yours anymore

3) Copyright is the issue because you don't actually take any pictures, so anything you post would be someone else's work

Put up or shut up, very simple fucking concept.

 

[retro]

You don't know what copyright means? Wow, oh I remember yours hasn't got any on them because they are so rubbish

So you've sold your pictures and they belong to someone else now?

 

[retro]

Copyright is a set of exclusive rights granted to the author or creator of an original work, including the right to copy, distribute and adapt the work. In most jurisdictions copyright arises upon fixation and does not need to be registered. Copyright owners have the exclusive statutory right to exercise control over copying and other exploitation of the works for a specific period of time, after which the work is said to enter the public domain. Uses covered under limitations and exceptions to copyright, such as fair use, do not require permission from the copyright owner. All other uses require permission. Copyright owners can license or permanently transfer or assign their exclusive rights to others.

If you took the pictures, and you haven't sold them to anyone, you are the copyright holder... and as such can post them here or do whatever else you might want to with them.

 

[retro]

Tuffy is awesome... not only does he have to spite neg rep, but then he has to go around and give rep to all kinds of other people so he can hit me four times in a row. :24:

remember, what ever you neg me, I will neg you twice in return

Oh, and I'm not " hiding like a chicken", I just failed to see how it was necessary to crap all over the other thread that I negged you in more than you had already. But since you're starting shit in here, I might as well say it in public.

Now that I've said all of that... like I just said earlier. Put up or shut up.

 

[Natasha]

This has gone beyond ridiculous. Take it to PMs, gentlemen. Thread closed.