Open Relationships: Could you/Have you?

[NuckingFuts]

I was in one last year. It was fun for awhile. But It just did not seem right.

 

[brieze]

We promised to "be truthful and loyal" and to remain together "for as long as love shall last."... none of that death do us part stuff.

I think this should be the new standard. Then maybe hardcore religious people won't feel so shameful about divorce.

 

[HK]

We promised to "be truthful and loyal" and to remain together "for as long as love shall last."... none of that death do us part stuff.

I think I actually prefer these words to the regular vows. I've never really thought about customising them when I get married but what you put sounds nicer than 'till death do us part'.

 

[purpledove]

Furthermore, we did have a civil ceremony, which is the standard vow set.
However, our religious ceremony was a Pagan Handfasting... We promised to "be truthful and loyal" and to remain together "for as long as love shall last."... none of that death do us part stuff.

I admire you for being open to talk about the kind of relationship you have with your hubby. Despite that I may not be able to imagine myself being in an open relationship- I respect you for your beliefs and I think just as long as the trust, communication and the love is there to keep your relationship strong then that's Kudos to you guys :thumbup:

I am just curious and i hope you don't mind me asking- What is Pagan Handfasting???

 

[retro]

Yup. I see you continually telling people how ignorant they are when you don't agree with what they have to say. It's getting old.

She is being ignorant... she's made absolutely not effort to try and understand the situation. She's making judgments based on her own limited understanding. She went to so far as to say that Butterfly's marriage wasn't actually a marriage earlier in this thread. If that isn't ignorant, then what is? I didn't say that what she was saying was ignorant because I don't agree with it. I'm saying that what she said was ignorant because it was.

If you don't like my choice of words, I really don't care. There are plenty of people that agree with what I said.

 

[brieze]

I just had a huge debate with my boyfriend over this thread. It was civil for a bit, then went argument style. He's more with SS beliefs.

 

[Butterfly]

I am just curious and i hope you don't mind me asking- What is Pagan Handfasting???

It's basically a Pagan wedding ceremony.

Taken from Wikipedia:
In the present day, some Neopagans practice this ritual. The marriage vows taken may be for "a year and a day," a lifetime, "for all of eternity" or "for as long as love shall last." Whether the ceremony is legal, or a private spiritual commitment, is up to the couple. Depending on the state where the handfasting is performed, and whether or not the officiant is a legally recognized minister, the ceremony itself may be legally binding, or couples may choose to make it legal by also having a civil ceremony. Modern handfastings are performed for same-gender or opposite-gender couples, as well as for multiple partners in the case of polyamorous relationships. As with many Neopagan rituals, some groups may use historically attested forms of the ceremony, striving to be as traditional as possible, while others may use only the basic idea of handfasting and largely create a new ceremony.[5]
As many different traditions of Neopaganism use some variation on the handfasting ceremony, there is no universal ritual form that is followed, and the elements included are generally up to the couple being handfasted. In cases where the couple belong to a specific religious or cultural tradition, there may be a specific form of the ritual used by all or most members of that particular tradition. The couple may conduct the ceremony themselves or may have an officiant perform the ceremony. In some traditions, the couple may jump over a broom at the end of the ceremony. Some may instead leap over a small fire together. Today, some couples opt for a handfasting ceremony in place of, or incorporated into, their public wedding. As summer is the traditional time for handfastings, they are often held outdoors.

 

[dazner]

Swingers!

 

[Guyzerr]

If you don't like my choice of words, I really don't care. There are plenty of people that agree with what I said.

You have a PM about your attitude, or at least my understanding of your attitude, which you need to read very slowly so you understand exactly what I said. Read it two or three times if you have too.

 

[Guyzerr]

She is being ignorant... she's made absolutely not effort to try and understand the situation. She's making judgments based on her own limited understanding. She went to so far as to say that Butterfly's marriage wasn't actually a marriage earlier in this thread. If that isn't ignorant, then what is? I didn't say that what she was saying was ignorant because I don't agree with it. I'm saying that what she said was ignorant because it was.

If you don't like my choice of words, I really don't care. There are plenty of people that agree with what I said.

btw Retro thanks for the red rep. You have the dubious distinction of being the first person to do that. :thumbup

 

[Alien Allen]

well this has been an interesting few pages

If I had a marriage I would love to have it be open. But I know it would backfire. I would have a difficult time dealing with it.

That is just me though

If it works for others it sure as hell is not for me to judge. I tend to go with what happens in your bedroom is none of my business.

 

[FreightTrain]

btw Retro thanks for the red rep. You have the dubious distinction of being the first person to do that. :thumbup

Ah-ha! I see Retro's been getting popular with others, too.:jk Yeah, I don't tolerate ignorance. He has the 'dubious distinction' of being the 1st on my Ignore list.

 

[Alien Allen]

I think Retro had the right to respond. Same as his foe did.

No big deal as I see it

But then I have a large tolerance when it comes to debate.

I can dish it and take it

And I know when to back away.

Something which many are not capable of

Oh and I can also find myself continuing to stir shit though

I am a prick after all

 

[FreightTrain]

It's not about being a shit-stirrer or a debater. Guyzerr and I have both received PMs which testify to Retro's ignorance and immaturity. I have no problem with someone disagreeing with me. I have no problem with heated debates. I have a problem with those sticking their noses where they don't belong. That's all.

 

[FreightTrain]

I don't believe there is a definition for marriage to give. It's like a recipe in my world, everyone has their own variations to suit their tastes.

No, marriage IS clearly defined. Look it up in your Webster's dictionary. It's even been updated to reword the 'man and woman' traditional definition. I don't feel marriage is something that's open to interpretation. It's cut and dry and has been for a very long time. Friend is a word that's open to interpretation. Love is even open to interpretation. The defintion of marriage is as clear as 1 + 1 = 2.

 

[FreightTrain]

I don't "get" open relationships.



and can we stop with this non-judgmental stuff everyone is judging each other.

Very well put.

 

[retro]

Ah-ha! I see Retro's been getting popular with others, too.:jk Yeah, I don't tolerate ignorance. He has the 'dubious distinction' of being the 1st on my Ignore list.

:woohoo:

I feel so damn special.

For those wondering,

Ignorance:

the state or fact of being ignorant : lack of knowledge, education, or awareness

That's the definition of ignorance, and that is what some people have expressed in this very thread. Just because you don't understand something doesn't give you the right to tell someone else that their marriage is illegitimate. It's different from others, but that doesn't mean a thing in the grand scheme of things.

Yawn.

 

[Guyzerr]

:woohoo:

I feel so damn special.

For those wondering,



That's the definition of ignorance, and that is what some people have expressed in this very thread. Just because you don't understand something doesn't give you the right to tell someone else that their marriage is illegitimate. It's different from others, but that doesn't mean a thing in the grand scheme of things.

Yawn.

Retro you remind me of the frog in this picture. :24:

 

[Tangerine]

No, marriage IS clearly defined. Look it up in your Webster's dictionary. It's even been updated to reword the 'man and woman' traditional definition. I don't feel marriage is something that's open to interpretation. It's cut and dry and has been for a very long time. Friend is a word that's open to interpretation. Love is even open to interpretation. The defintion of marriage is as clear as 1 + 1 = 2.

And who wrote that definition and what or who gives them the authority to define it for everyone else?

 

[FreightTrain]

HA! Is the stork for hire??