Radiohead

[JoeCool10]

I loooooooove them.

 

[brieze]

Pearl Jam. Over a longer time span too.

Meh lol. I'll give you that, even though I'm not a huge Pearl Jam fan. They've definitely carved a place in music history.

 

[edgray]

Meh lol. I'll give you that, even though I'm not a huge Pearl Jam fan. They've definitely carved a place in music history.

I think the only thing Pearl Jam has over Radiohead is their early stuff, they hit the road running whereas I think Radiohead took a while to find their feet.

It's a close call tho, both bands are so influential and are clearly the leading rock bands from the past 20 years.

Radiohead were fans of Beavis and Butthead:

 

[brieze]

I think the only thing Pearl Jam has over Radiohead is their early stuff, they hit the road running whereas I think Radiohead took a while to find their feet.

It's a close call tho, both bands are so influential and are clearly the leading rock bands from the past 20 years.

Radiohead were fans of Beavis and Butthead:

You have a point there. Radiohead's Creep was so, not them. It was good, don't get me wrong, but I think a lot of people were disappointed when that wasn't their usual sound. Pearl Jam's always been Pearl Jam lol.

So 90's lol. I love it =]

 

[JoeCool10]

My favorite songs by both bands:

Radiohead:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7i-R2WM3tNM&feature=related

Pearl Jam (and this was a tough one because I LOVE LOVE LOVE Pearl Jam):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JLztfosqik

 

[edgray]

You have a point there. Radiohead's Creep was so, not them. It was good, don't get me wrong, but I think a lot of people were disappointed when that wasn't their usual sound. Pearl Jam's always been Pearl Jam lol.

So 90's lol. I love it =]

You know when I first heard Creep I hated it. Compared to the other stuff from the US I was listening to at the time I thought it was too much self-indulgence and feeling sorry for yourself for my liking. They got hugely better after that rocky start. I'm guessing what happened was they signed a record deal and the management were all grunge mad at that point and made them record an appropriate album. This actually happened to a friend of mine who got signed around the same period.

It took a couple of albums for them to get over that, perhaps once they had a big fan base I guess the record company let them do their thing.

It's a sad fact that most albums you here, especially ones riding the wave of a new fad, were concocted in board rooms and sales meetings and not by angsty musicians bearing their souls.

 

[edgray]

My Pearl Jam favourite:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1TwQ-GiZ8I
(Of the Girl, on Binaural, set to an awesome movie)

To do that song, and that entire album, justice, you need some full cup headphones cranked up full blast. The entire album was recorded using Binaural recording techniques and it's the best sounding rock album ever recorded I'd say.

Radiohead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-7MeqSIj4E

I think the horn section in this is attached directly to my nervous system.

 

[brieze]

You know when I first heard Creep I hated it. Compared to the other stuff from the US I was listening to at the time I thought it was too much self-indulgence and feeling sorry for yourself for my liking. They got hugely better after that rocky start. I'm guessing what happened was they signed a record deal and the management were all grunge mad at that point and made them record an appropriate album. This actually happened to a friend of mine who got signed around the same period.

It took a couple of albums for them to get over that, perhaps once they had a big fan base I guess the record company let them do their thing.

It's a sad fact that most albums you here, especially ones riding the wave of a new fad, were concocted in board rooms and sales meetings and not by angsty musicians bearing their souls.

That basically is what happened according to Radiohead lol. I disagree with taking a few albums to get over it though. I mean, they're earlier stuff was more emo than now, but not Creep level. Now that they're independent they can play whatever lol.

It really is sad. Even if the artists write it themselves, I'm sure they're told a direction.

 

[Zorak]

pablo honey stands as a great album, i'll stick by it.

they were a fucking good rock band before thom yorke got poncey

 

[edgray]

That basically is what happened according to Radiohead lol. I disagree with taking a few albums to get over it though. I mean, they're earlier stuff was more emo than now, but not Creep level. Now that they're independent they can play whatever lol.

It really is sad. Even if the artists write it themselves, I'm sure they're told a direction.

yeah it's the biggest problem with the music industry, and why I'm happy the major labels are falling to pieces at the moment. But then it's always been like this since the beginning of the 70s, when the music industry discovered marketing and fashion.

Basically there are very few bands around that get control over their music. Generally most music comes from the top down, not from the band themselves. It's a sad situation, but one that the internet is fighting very nicely

A case in point: my friend was signed to Sony with his group in 1992. They were a bit like the Beautiful South, pop with guitars. Anyway, they got signed, and then the grunge thing exploded. They had a 5 year 3 album contract and recorded an album, took it to their label, who basically said no, go back and make it sound like it's from Seattle.

So they had to oblige. And the result didn't suit their style. They never got it right, and were attached to a contract so they couldn't even try other labels or anything.

What's worse is they were really very good.

 

[brieze]

pablo honey stands as a great album, i'll stick by it.

they were a fucking good rock band before thom yorke got poncey

Poncey? how so?

yeah it's the biggest problem with the music industry, and why I'm happy the major labels are falling to pieces at the moment. But then it's always been like this since the beginning of the 70s, when the music industry discovered marketing and fashion.

Basically there are very few bands around that get control over their music. Generally most music comes from the top down, not from the band themselves. It's a sad situation, but one that the internet is fighting very nicely

A case in point: my friend was signed to Sony with his group in 1992. They were a bit like the Beautiful South, pop with guitars. Anyway, they got signed, and then the grunge thing exploded. They had a 5 year 3 album contract and recorded an album, took it to their label, who basically said no, go back and make it sound like it's from Seattle.

So they had to oblige. And the result didn't suit their style. They never got it right, and were attached to a contract so they couldn't even try other labels or anything.

What's worse is they were really very good.

I don't even listen to mainstream anymore. I mean, Britney Spears. That's all anyone has to say when it comes to record labels. They turned her into a pedofile's wet dream. And I'm sure it screwed her up in the long run.

I've noticed since Lady Gaga's weirdness, the industry artists in similar genres have been getting more 'edgy'. Like odd outfits and ridiculous hair-dos, over-the-top videos and live performances. Did you catch the Grammy's last night? I think they spent more on stage theatrics then anything else. Annoyed me.

Seattle? How do you make something sound more Seattle?

 

[edgray]

I don't even listen to mainstream anymore. I mean, Britney Spears. That's all anyone has to say when it comes to record labels. They turned her into a pedofile's wet dream. And I'm sure it screwed her up in the long run.

I've noticed since Lady Gaga's weirdness, the industry artists in similar genres have been getting more 'edgy'. Like odd outfits and ridiculous hair-dos, over-the-top videos and live performances. Did you catch the Grammy's last night? I think they spent more on stage theatrics then anything else. Annoyed me.

Seattle? How do you make something sound more Seattle?

ha yeah poor Britney. But that kind of "artist" is always just there to be a unit-shifter. Even the larger, rockier bands aren't immune, they're under the thumbs of the labels for the most part, and have to tailor their work to their target market.

Like Seattle as in more grungy. That was all the music industry was interested in during the early nineties.

 

[brieze]

Very true. I'm glad the emo trend is dying down. I went to a concert in 04 and I swear to god, every single person was IDENTICAL. It freaked me out. I've never seen fads followed that religiously before.

Oh, grungy, I'm with ya.

 

[Zorak]

Poncey? how so?

You don't see it?

If you don't, you probably won't lol.

 

[Peter Parka]

The video to Just has to be the best music video ever.:clap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIFLtNYI3Ls