Man admits he faked burglary to solicit holiday charity

Peter Parka said:
So what punishment do you think fits the crime seeing you're so outraged at the punishment for this and please explain why, logically without resorting to inbalanced, emotional hysteria.
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I'm not outraged at the punishment he's receiving, the fine he has to pay and the ridicule and shunning of everyone else in his town and the fact that his daughter will now be an outcast is plenty punishment enough. I'm saying that the fact that he's sorry doesn't make up for what he did, not in the slightest, and that some people are being entirely too quick to forgive this man. He deserves every bit of hatred and every mean word thrown his way by his fellow townspeople over this.

And like I said earlier I would move if I were this guy, he will never be respected by anyone where he's currently living again.


Guy: *Fills out Job application*

Potential Employer: "Aren't you that guy who pulled that Christmas Scam?" *tears up application*
 
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Wow! That guy was a jerk to be sure. But come on..... read the article..... think your thoughts on it.... and move on.

Imagine if you will this scenerio.....

April 27, 2011.... Standing in line at WalMart.....

Cashier: Glances at man in line. Does a double take. Gets a scowl on her face. Blurts out to current customer.... "Isn't that Tim Wood? You know..... the little bastard who tried to screw over society this last Christmas?"

Current Customer: "OMG!" As she turns to stare and point at Tim standing in line with his daughter. "It is him!"

Cashier: Glaring now at Tim with an evil glint in her eye. "You should be totally ashamed of yourself. How can you ever show your face in this town again? You should be banned from this store!"

Tim: "I'm sorry. I've said I was sorry. I don't know what came over me then. It's just that I need this little basket of food for my daughter and myself. My wife left me you know. She couldn't bear the ridicule. She couldn't bear the thought of being seen in public with me or our daughter here." He hugs his daughter gently to his side as a tear rolls down his cheek.

Daughter: "It's okay daddy. I understand what you did, even if the whole world hates you for it."

The cashier starts to laugh. The current customer joins in. Suddenly, another customer speaks up from behind..... "It's okay Tim."

..... and to the Cashier and Current Customer: "We're all human. Like most humans we learn from our mistakes. How many times must this young man have his nose rubbed in it? Aren't you making not only him, but his little girl continue to pay for his lapse in judgment?"

By now a small crowd has formed and are listening intently.

"Put yourself in this child's shoes, if not Tim's own. He is well aware of his failures in this little girl's eyes, yet she clings to him and loves him unconditionally. Can't we do the same? Can't we let him bear his shame alone?"

The cashier scratches her head and thinks of that time when she shoplifted that bottle of perfume a couple of years ago and didn't get caught. She imagines the guilt she would have felt in the eyes of those who knew her if she had of been caught. Her heart softens.... slightly.... but enough to stop condemning another.

The current customer smiles smugly remembering that time she received the wrong change back from this very cashier and hopes this little distraction will cause the same thing to happen again today. She could use the extra money to buy a pack of cigarettes on the way home.

The Beginning.




So..... There you have it.

Tis the season to forgive and forget really. I mean.... you don't have to do either of course.... but for your own piece of mind.... perhaps you should.
 
darkangel said:
The stoned comment was sarcastic Peter. Just as sarcastic as Tim's stoned comment. I never said that the punishment didn't fit the crime but it's still very wrong what he did and I have the right to not forgive any immorally illegal act. That's my prerogative. And whats' this shit about inbalanced, emotional hysteria? :confused
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You dont see anything unbalanced about comparing what this guy did to rapists and murderers? :confused Alrighty then......
 
darkangel said:
I'm not the one who did that Peter....
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Where did I say that you were? I didn't see you arguing against that point though, just continuing to agree with the individual who said it. Like how you avoided the question though. So, not being personal, simple yes or no answer. Is it unbalanced to compare what this guy did to rapists and murderers?
 
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My two cents, yeah it was wrong, but I remember when I was 21 and I did some doozy things too and 21 year old guys are less mature than 21 year old women. But I also can't imagine how I'd feel if I couldn't give my daughter gifts........I feel a fine and the public humiliation is enough punishment. The daughter should suffer nothing she was just a patsy.
 
hart said:
My two cents, yeah it was wrong, but I remember when I was 21 and I did some doozy things too and 21 year old guys are less mature than 21 year old women. But I also can't imagine how I'd feel if I couldn't give my daughter gifts........I feel a fine and the public humiliation is enough punishment. The daughter should suffer nothing she was just a patsy.
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The daughter SHOULDN'T suffer for this but she will, as a result of this guys actions .
 
hart said:
My two cents, yeah it was wrong, but I remember when I was 21 and I did some doozy things too and 21 year old guys are less mature than 21 year old women. But I also can't imagine how I'd feel if I couldn't give my daughter gifts........I feel a fine and the public humiliation is enough punishment. The daughter should suffer nothing she was just a patsy.
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But hart he had gifts for his daughter. He just wanted more. I couldn't get as many gifts as I would have liked to for my daughter and grandson but I just accepted that it's not how much you give but the knowing that you did your best that really matters. And I agree public humiliation is punishment enough for him but it doesn't mean that I think he should be forgiven. And to throw in that he said he had almost $800 worth of presents and other items stolen that just cinched it for me that it wasn't all just about his daughter. Sure he's young but he thought this out and made up this story before he did it. So does that mean that every 21 year old adult should be forgiven easily for crimes they commit? Especially ones that fooled people into donating things to him? I really think he should have been charged with Fraud too. But hell that's just my opinion in a world full of opinions. *shrugs*
 
darkangel said:
But hart he had gifts for his daughter. He just wanted more. I couldn't get as many gifts as I would have liked to for my daughter and grandson but I just accepted that it's not how much you give but the knowing that you did your best that really matters. And I agree public humiliation is punishment enough for him but it doesn't mean that I think he should be forgiven. And to throw in that he said he had almost $800 worth of presents and other items stolen that just cinched it for me that it wasn't all just about his daughter. Sure he's young but he thought this out and made up this story before he did it. So does that mean that every 21 year old adult should be forgiven easily for crimes they commit? Especially ones that fooled people into donating things to him? I really think he should have been charged with Fraud too. But hell that's just my opinion in a world full of opinions. *shrugs*
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So you never stole anything in your life? How about an accessory to theft?

Should you be forgiven for you past crimes?
 
Tim said:
So you never stole anything in your life? How about an accessory to theft?

Should you be forgiven for you past crimes?
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Sure Tim and I did my punishment but I have to live with the consequences of my actions everyday. Should I be forgiven? In my eyes NO I shouldn't. tbh And I haven't been. I live with that everyday. Would I like to be forgiven? Sure it would be nice but that's not just reality for me in my life. Do I base my opinion of this guy on how I've been treated? Absolutely not. It's up to individuals to make their choice to forgive or not. And I just think this guy was being selfish not only for his daughter but for himself too. And what he did I'm going to say again was just wrong.
 
I find the peacefulness I get in my life is far greater when I can forgive people, especially when the situation is minor and has nothing to do with me anyway. In fact, I really dont see that most people are in a place where they have anything to forgive this guy for, anyway. Life can be bitter when you hold pointless grudges.
 
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